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Nodesignal-Techboost - E279 - Yin & Yang

Nodesignal - Deine Bitcoin-Frequenz · 2026-05-01 · 69 min
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In der heutigen Folge sprechen Thorsten und Zetti über Licht und Schatten oder das Yin und Yang, das regelmäßig über dem Bitcoin Space schwebt. Wir haben einen bunten Strauß an neuen, aber auch Updates zu bereits bekannten Themen und Projekten mitgebracht. Wir wünschen euch viel Freude mit unserem Techboost. Von und mit: - Thorsten - Zettizettler Produziert und geschnitten: Thorsten Hier könnt ihr uns eine Spende über Lightning da lassen: ⚡️ [email protected] Zusätzlich haben wir auch einen Silent Payment Link: sp1qq0a2rles9y32ffmj0eawvjglgqsgj7hq99ers580l98k42a7rh9szq3sa50fh2e5lwf22fxcjy0qw88u72vlj328qr39da245sq4nrskuqvvv5l4 Neben dem Podcast findet ihr uns auch auf YouTube Für Feedback und weitergehenden Diskussionen kommt gerne in die Telegramgruppe von Nodesignal und bewertet uns bei Spotify und Apple Podcasts, das hilft uns sehr. Folgt uns auch gerne bei Nostr:npub1n0devk3h2l3rx6vmt24a3lz4hsxp7j8rn3x44jkx6daj7j8jzc0q2u02cy und Twitter . Blockzeit: 947055 Routstr github.com/NousResearch/hermes-agent/pull/6624 Quantum-Safe Bitcoin github.com/avihu28/Quantum-Safe-Bitcoin-Transactions Was ist Post Quantum Cryptography?” mit Hanna von Tuta (PQC 1/2) Nodesignal-Talk – E228 – Post Quantum Cryptography und Bitcoin, mit Sebastian Nodesignal-Talk – E232 – PQC3 – Bitcoin-Adressformate und Quantenresistenz HAMSTR / Reticulum github.com/LibertyFarmer/hamstr Primal Post von FLASH zu Floresta + Utreexo https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqsdr3kcxe42tynsuveqw4ddfzlpp6ht97dw5nk7l6a324w0tl23dzgle3hws UmbrelOS 1.7 https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqspddaj7f6z8pj9p4vjn6gsl0d8mwd8xkdjsqywsjxhn8nfcka3xhs9cr7yl Vercel Hack x.com/k1rallik/status/2045885869035323645 Parasite Pool x.com/DoX_GTX/status/2045458084705817047 Fake Ledger x.com/TFTC21/status/2044905447342366728 Kraken Security x.com/c7five/status/2043720915330969743 Datenlecks x.com/crypt0e/status/2044950401787805996 Tornado Cash Hearing therage.co/acquittal-for-storm-exotic-theories Keonne Brief #6 therage.co/letter-6-two-years-in billandkeonne.org Satoshi Archiv satoshi.blocktrainer.de Timestamps: (00:00:00) Intro (00:00:22) Begrüßung (00:02:16) Yin und Yang: Positive und negative Aspekte der Bitcoin-Welt (00:07:56) KI und
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Problem solved
How to combine Bitcoin/eCash payments with decentralized AI so agents can buy compute privately without central providers.
Benefits
  • Decentralized marketplace for AI computing power
  • Pay-per-use models anonymously with Cashew/eCash
  • Hermes agent compatibility for automated requests
  • Share unused AI subscription capacity to offset costs
  • Quantum-safe Bitcoin transactions without a soft fork
Use cases
  • Routstr report: 25 nodes available, 9 online, 395 models offered
  • Hypothetical sharing of a $50/month OpenAI subscription via the protocol for eCash
  • Pay-Per-Q wrapper routing Bitcoin payments to major model providers
  • Quantum-safe transaction draft based on BinoHash presented by Robin Linus in 2026
KPIs / results
  • 25 nodes, 9 online, 395 models on Routstr
  • Block height 947,055
  • $50/month subscription example
Tools / build
  • Routstr decentralized AI network
  • Hermes agent (new version of OpenClaw)
  • Open Router
  • Cashew/eCash
  • Nostr
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A wonderful good morning, noon, evening, night, whatever to Nosignalal-Techboost. We're back at the start. We are the nodes of the Zetti. Day! GM, greetings! Good morning! And today it's just me, Thorsten. There are two of us. Zetti, how are you? Welcome! I'm doing great. Howdy! I'm happy to be there. I'll also give you the blog time directly. Then we haven't forgotten it. This is 947 055 and the final hash goes to 53A9E. Nowadays I always check mempool.space to see if I'm in the right place because my node, my Raspi, has been stuck so many times. It's about time I switched to a mini PC. I can definitely recommend it. Definitely has other advantages. But well, that's all money that you then spend on it for ultimately consistent functionality. But if at some point it becomes, yes, unstable, that's obviously not nice either. Yes, I had the blog time too. The hash was nice too. Spiderpool. Yes, it's running. Well, we have a very, very colorful collection today. I once called the episode Yin-Yang as a working title. I don't know if it will stay that way. But when I looked at the topics, I somehow had the feeling that it was fitting, because today we talk about a lot of positive things that, I would say, represent the bright side of the yin-yang. And so show the development in the Bitcoin space and the further development and decentralization of technologies and, so to speak, applications. And on the other side we have the dark side. That's basically all the news that there are more and more hacks. There are more and more threats from Bitcoiners or any other wealthy people. And that's more of the dark side. And today we want to tell you a bit about a mixture of the two. And that's why I found Yin-Yang to be a very appropriate name. Maybe that's just an introduction to why this working title came to mind. Zetti, what do you think about that? Does that fit? Yes, you mainly took the title. For the listeners, we are recording here on the day when the rumor arose that the tax situation in Germany might now be changed. So the rumor again, but this time there seems to be something more to it. And of course that's it, it fits exactly into the headline. That is absolutely correct. This is, look, very current here. At least that's the first information from the, I don't know, it is, but I don't think it is yet. I think that's just the idea that Mr. Klingbeil has let slip out of the Ministry of Finance, that we have to take on more and more debt. And where there is of course more debt, the federal government or the German state of course needs even more revenue, because we basically have a revenue problem in Germany and not a spending problem. That's why, of course, you have to control even more revenue and yes, actually everything just more so that the people, so that we in Germany, I just read about it again a few days ago, it's been like this for a very long time, but that Germany finally becomes the country that has the highest tax rate for its fellow citizens of all OECD countries. And I think Belgium is still number one, but I think we're doing everything we can to ensure that that's no longer the case soon. Then Germany is definitely in pole position in first place for the most taxes that we work for the state all year or more than half of the year. It's nice, isn't it? Yes, of course things are getting very political in the tech boost, but I found it quite interesting in this context that Markus had pointed out to me at Noster about another index, which is the government ratio, which is normally used as GDP in relation to national debt. So that's the normal index and there's also a Hayek index that he once linked and that's a somewhat liberal look at the phenomenon of how strong the state is or how much the state interferes in economic operations. And things look completely different there. Germany is definitely on a different level. I think he would be even more pessimistic about what you just outlined. That would have been my question, what does this other index show? Is it worse or is it at least a little better? But apparently he's even worse. Yes, because that has been the phenomenon of the last few decades, that many state-owned companies have also been privatized, for example, now privatized in quotation marks, all to different degrees and there is more and more regulation and accordingly the state of course has much more influence in an indirect way on economic activity. And that is then factored into this index and also other factors. And that's not just what is officially defined as a state. Exactly. That it is then a shareholder in a listed company. And, I don't know, government contracts for defense companies, that's a current thing anyway, that somehow politicians always have an interest in directing it, whether it's arms exports, yes, no, blah blah blah blah blah. Yes, but nice to hear that the view can be even worse. That's great. These are good conditions. And of course it will be interesting, what does that do, so to speak. So it would be interesting to hear from the Austrians, who already have this changed tax law, or from people who live in America. What does that ultimately mean? The first people in our chat are already writing, that could be a good thing, because then people will all buy No KYC. Of course, that can just as easily mean that people then no longer want to use Bitcoin as a medium of exchange because they then always have the feeling that they are generating a taxable event. Or that Bitcoin Berlin will only somehow become, at Firefish or something like that, because they don't want to sell anymore. So I don't presume to know what consequences this means for the space or for us users. Because it's currently just a report in quotation marks and isn't a finished law or anything else, it's all just speculation anyway. That's why it's no use now. We need laid eggs, something to speculate on. Maybe we can talk about it again at some point when the time comes or get upset about it. But yeah, then that's it. Oh well. But let's focus on the more exciting topics here rather than here about Germany's tax future for Bitcoin and crypto and who knows what. Yes, as I said at the beginning, we have a Buntels smorgasbord. We basically have two areas today. We once have the area we called it with the blog Building and Tech and the other is News and Rights, I think, that's what it was called. So in the end, the negative side in quotes comes at the end. But we still have something positive to end with. That's why it's quite possible that we'll still get the shift back in the end and finish on a positive note. But let's start at the beginning. We've talked a lot about AI lately. And there is now more and more Bitcoin and AI in particular, with more and more companies from the Bitcoin space jumping into it. How can you somehow combine Bitcoin payments or perhaps e-cash or something like that with AI? Because my best example or the first example mentioned is always something like Pay-Per-Q. In principle, you pay via a wrapper, you can pay with Bitcoin via a service and it then completes the requests to all the major models or model providers. There is already something called Open Router. In the end, this is already a protocol, which I'm not sure whether it also runs via Nostra, but at least in the sense that you can use it to address different model providers via this service or service, which are then more or less suitable for your own use case. So I have to use the fattest model here, which also generates the highest token costs if I somehow have a cheap request or something like that and then distributes privacy in a different direction. And there's actually something like that now, it's called Rootster. That's actually what we want to talk about today. This is a draft for a decentralized AI network with which you can then pay for the models you use, which are set up decentrally, with cashew or with eCash on the spot. That means, in principle, as I understand it, someone hosts a model and in order to use this model, I as a user on the other side can pay with Cashew and can then simply access the model from this other person who is behind a Nostar node via this Rootster protocol, which then runs via Nostr. I pay him and then I can basically use his computing power, which he hosts on his site, and thus use AI without having to rely on a central service provider and at the same time I can also pay for the whole thing relatively anonymously with eCash or Cashew on the spot. That's how I understand it. Yes, the special thing here is that the Rootster has been around for a long time and the news is that they are now also agent compatible. So this is explicitly about the integration into the Hermes agent, which is, so to speak, a new version of OpenClaw. that you can, so to speak, use them as a brain with this decentralized AI network. And I mean, I'm not sure that you can also make parts of your subscription available. So I don't think it's just about self-hosted AI, right? Otherwise it would actually only be about poor models or not so powerful ones. Is that somehow possible? I'm actually not sure. So I don't know. Of course it would be interesting in some form if I had my agent, who on the one hand, I don't know, let's take a very flat one here, has an OpenAI subscription, somehow for 50 dollars a month or something like that and then can access the latest JGPT models. And then somehow I can connect it to the Rootstar protocol via this agent and then get an interface for other users or other users get an interface so that the subscription can then be shared by the paying user. That would of course be crazy, mind-blowing. Of course, in this respect, of course it's true, you would only limit yourself to open source models if they were self-hosted, because now you can't host all the big, fat models yourself and on the other hand, of course, they aren't open source from OpenAI, Anthropic and Co. and Google. If that's really the case, then that would of course be super cool at this point, because on the one hand, even if you don't use your script subscription yourself, you don't use it regularly, so you use the equivalent of 50 dollars in quotation marks, to stick with the example, actually not, but you still make it available to others via this user protocol. They then pay you in eCash, so that in the end you can then compensate for your part of your monthly costs and then when someone else uses the capacity or the tokens that you bought with the 50 dollar subscription. It's actually a cool model. So and if this is still running through the agents, of course, then the use case is of course much bigger, because you're dealing with many more, many more requests than now, if we just talk about, I don't know, for normal, for normal, so to speak for normal use in the classic sense. I ask a question in the AI ​​or I vibe code with it or something else like that. Yes, I'm not sure either, but that would definitely be their goal because it's about a marketplace for AI computing power. Ultimately, this is a decentralized marketplace for AI computing power. I don't know if they can do that yet or if that's the goal. It makes sense, because somehow we also learned from the report that was in there that somehow 25 nodes were basically online, basically basically available. Nine of them were online and 395 models were made available on Hoots. That strongly suggests that these are not just open source models, because I don't think there are that many, so there are so many open source models, but at least not as relevant in quotation marks. So closed source models will certainly also be connected. But yeah, definitely a cool construct. Yes, also a question for the community, if any of you use it, let us hear what your experiences are. Yes. What's particularly cool about e-cash is that it makes the whole thing a bit easier for us on the one hand, also for handling, since the agents simply have to push snippets of text in quotation marks from e-cash tokens around in order to then buy their brains, so to speak, in quotation marks. But yes, exciting. Juti, we definitely have that. Another point is that I would have liked to have had Chris there for that. I know, but I can't actually say that much. Setti, maybe you can help me a little with that. So, there is probably currently a merge request. Is this a merge request? Or, no, I think it's still a work in progress. It's currently still here, it's basically how you can make quantum safe, quantum safe, Bitcoin transactions without a soft fork. That's basically the message that the user AFI Huf28 or something like that presented in a first draft. And the whole thing should somehow work in such a way that you don't have to do a soft fork. There have already been some candidates for quantum-safe transaction types in the past, including in the discussion, but of course they then need a soft fork so that the Bitcoin mainnet supports the whole thing. And in this case, this is a suggestion that bypasses the whole thing and basically converts and combines it with the existing functionalities that exist in the Bitcoin network in such a way that you don't have to build a soft fork at this point. This is supposedly based on BinoHash. Robin Linus, also a well-known quasi-German-speaking developer, presented this in 2026 and it was then further developed on the basis because BinoHash probably still has or had a remaining ECDSA gap at this point, which probably means that quantum computers can be attacked there. And that's why that was used as a basis. No idea what that is. Now just for you to know. No, I think it's mainly interesting because the path was there and I think you can clearly listen to Chris' episodes to put it into perspective, but the Honey Badger recently had something more current with two guests on the topic of quantum security and yes, that just shows that people are already thinking about it. So the developers are there and in this episode in Honey Badger it came out again that it won't work without tradeoffs. And there are clearly costs here as tradeoffs, for example, because the whole thing has some consequence, there are estimated GPO costs in here that may exist. Yes. But now in the so that you can use this, so to speak, this variant, that's how I understand it. Here, as an example, there are 75 to 150 dollars in GPU costs in the cloud, which you then need to somehow build a suitable signature so that it is quantum secure. That's how I understand it. Yes. In some cases the tradeoffs reached huge block sizes. So I think the people who are really familiar with it think about it, and the majority of scouts don't think so much about it. That's how I would assess it at the moment. Yes. So it's important, as you say, that the development is taking place, that in addition to what we just briefly mentioned, the path-to-secure transactions, which are larger, have more block space, but of course require a Softfrog, that there are now at least the first ideas here about how to get the whole thing on the chain without Softfrog, perhaps even with other trade-offs, but that's still nice that it's there now Then in 2026 there will already be very concrete ideas that are being worked on and that's the only way it can work at this point. Yes. That definitely makes it good at first and it's still the question, this whole quantum computing, blah blah, it's like, you just don't know, now somehow, when will there really be, let me say, potent systems that are really stable and available on a large scale in order to really attack UTXOs in or addresses. That is always the problem that the unhashed Satoshi coins in the sense of the simple address types that were used at the very beginning, that in principle are not hashed and are therefore the easiest to attack, because the public key is simply there and there, which can then be attacked. And that is ultimately what is most at risk, of course there is still an enormous sum of almost a million Bitcoin floating around. But yes, I can only refer to the content of the episodes that Chris did, with Sebastian, among others, and yes, I think that's pretty good. We can definitely link again, I think. Jo, Setti, what is a hamster? The hamster? If we have here in a small pet store. Hamster is an open source Noster client, yes and it is suitable for off-grid communication, so if we don't have the Internet, it is even supported by open source and the Meshy Maus, I think that would like that. the Meshy Mouse, yes. Exactly, apparently, that's on Reticulum and Meshy Maus has already said it very clearly that Reticulum is particularly powerful and can also transmit larger amounts of data or character sequences and that's why it now seems to be possible to carry out Long Range Lightning itself here on this LoRa, which is basically Long Range Lightning, Casual should follow or Noster Notes, so that we may soon be able to complete communication and yes, sending Satoshis via such frequencies in a simple way. The transmission of Bitcoin via radio and something like that was experimental a long time ago, but it's all very complicated, especially if you somehow need an amateur radio license and something like that. Therefore, the simpler these solutions become, the easier it will be, and if we are still on legally secure ground, it will be even more relaxed. Yes, what is perhaps really the most relevant news at this point is that it is really the Hamster and Monster client here now, which runs over this radio network, which means that in the end we have, for the most part, if this client supports everything that the NOSTA protocol can do now and can do in the future, it will then, provided of course the bandwidths are sufficient, whether you are doing video streaming or something like that, let's leave it out for now, but basically like that The best example here is Lightning Saps, so the fact that you can really send Bitcoin or Lightning payments via radio, via a cheap 30 euro antenna module, is actually great and everything that is then added to the NOSTA protocol in the future will tend to be able to be sent or communicated with in this way and that's just cool that you simply have this NOSTA standard in place and that is then combined with this, I would say, decentralized alternative communication technology that is separate from our usual Internet or our well-known communication thread and yes, tip-top, cool development at this point in that the bandwidths are apparently sufficient to transmit this. Yes, some people admire the people who develop things like this, because of course the fact that we somehow don't have a big number-growing function means that the whole thing actually only becomes relevant when there's an emergency or when people are technically up for it. That's a bit of a chicken-and-egg problem that I see with all these functions here. Well, I have a buddy who put together a simple smash thing out of technical interest, but basically it thrives on people having it ready just in case and not just starting to think about it when everything is gone. Yeah right. Yes, I think we already had another request regarding that, we can certainly discuss that again, that we are doing another follow-up episode with Meschimaus, and that was also the case recently with us in the community group, that some topic came up and that perhaps we could simply arrange a follow-up there again, especially when NOSTA is now becoming more and more relevant here and that you can actually use it there and maybe also have an experience report. So Meschimaus, welcome to you so that we can do another follow-up with you. Yes, I think he also hosts the Not-Signal page and they also follow in Reticulum. That's right, exactly, he does that too. Cool. Let's come to the next topic, where we are again in the mobile environment, but now in a more everyday environment, namely on the smartphone and I think that Zeti, I think you noticed that on Primal or on NOSTA, that here, there are now the first developments, I think that was there before, so U3XO, I've heard it before, I think Floresta too, but it may be that I heard it like that back then under the names, but that there were basically the first hints back then and that it now seems to be capable of optimization, that you basically have a complete Bitcoin node on your smartphone at that point. The fact that it's not a prune node or a light client like you usually have with Bitcoin wallets, which is basically only connected to a full node that's somewhere on the internet, it's usually the full nodes from the wallet manufacturers that are then integrated by default, but here it now seems to be, from the combination of Floresta and U-Tray-XO, that you have a Bitcoin fall node on your smartphone can, here specifically in the form on Android, that on the basis that you can validate transactions, but you probably don't have a full blockchain here, but that U-Tray-XO works in such a way that it is a compact representation of the U-Tray-XO set, so basically what the current state of the Bitcoin network is, that is what a Bitcoin case node in this sense represents in large file objects Here U-Tray-XO probably in a very small, compact format, I have no idea how it works technically at this point, but they have compressed it so that they can still make it comprehensible at the point and that's the whole thing so that you can then run a self-validating emergency on your cell phone, so to speak with the extremely limited resources, which is of course great. Yes, I think the way it looks currently in the testnet or at least still in the development phase, but that you no longer have a Raspberry Flash, the languages on top of it or a mini PC in places, but that you also have the whole thing, which a lot of people actually have, a smartphone and that you simply slap a Bitcoin fullnode on it or in the form here from U-Tray-XO and Flora and can then verify your Bitcoin transactions yourself, without anyone else Having to trust fullnode operators, which I think is more important than ever, even today. Yes, although somehow I still don't really understand the negative point here, so it has to have some consequence, i.e. a restriction. Sure, you probably have to look at the protocol at this point, i.e. the way in which this, I'll just call it compression now, but we're already compressing the U-Tray The way to get there, of course, has to be understandable in some form and at the same time you have to be able to be sure that it is really comparable or that you don't have some kind of trade-off at that point if you just say, I'm consciously foregoing a huge amount of data here, i.e. a large amount of data. Yes, I'm curious. To me this looks more like a proof of concept than an everyday thing, because to be honest, if I were to use onchain somehow, i.e. for everything that I need onchain for, i.e. larger transfers, I think I wouldn't trust something like that yet, but would actually go for the tried and tested things and then, I think this is just something to test something that is possible or could become possible. Yes, I actually think that perhaps it is always the perspective that is perhaps missing at that point. We now have, of course we're speaking again from our privileged perspective here, you somehow have laptops, you have mini PCs, what, blah blah blah blah. But what about people who don't have the necessary infrastructure somewhere and only really have a smartphone with which they can then interact on the Internet and have no way of providing additional computers with Bitcoin fullnode functionality in any way. Of course, if you can somehow combine that so that I can install a Blue Wallet or something like that on my smartphone and not have to connect the standard full node of Blue Wallet, but instead I can start up this instance at the same time and connect it to it, that would of course be a great thing for this use case. True, right? Yes. So I see that now, maybe in the future, if we don't go out to the Western world now, but especially for the generations or the parts of society that really only have access to smartphones and the like. Yes. I think if there is something specific, i.e. if it really works on a larger scale on the mainnet or something like that, then it will certainly be discussed further and become more widely known. I think so. That means it will definitely be on our agenda again. Good. Let's move on to AmbreOS. We have version 1.7 that has been released. There isn't a lot of news from a Bitcoin perspective, I would say, but it's mainly product maintenance with regard to its use as a home server. So more shortcuts. There are advanced network settings. File sharing should be easier over the network. New languages ​​have been added and stuff like that. So I think anyone who uses the whole thing as a Bitcoin node doesn't have to make a mandatory upgrade at this point. But if you use the home server offerings from this device, you should probably read this. Exactly, I think slowly. Well, I don't know, if Start9 doesn't even start pushing slowly, then they're pretty bad. I can say something, actually. Ah, great. Then tell me. I got it today, or rather I got it, that was before my vacation, a month or so ago now, I had it, Start9 had a new one, had released a beta. They're gone from the 0.4 B Alpha and at some point they've released a beta. I'm not exactly sure when that was. It could have been a month or a half ago now. Well, definitely. Today, three weeks ago or so, I installed 0.4, 2, 3, beta 2, 3, something like that. So two or three and now the days is, now we are already at beta 7, so the seventh, seventh beta of 0, 0.4, 0 beta. Yes, I sat up. So something is definitely moving now. Since I set it up three weeks ago and now took a look at it again today and updated it, a few additional versions have come out in the meantime. So something is definitely happening now and maybe a quick update on it. We have now adapted and changed the layout, the infrastructure, i.e. the architecture of the entire system and so on. New dashboard and also, especially in the background, how the whole thing is technically built. Actually, what I, we can probably do our own episode about it again, because I think that would go beyond the scope. So before, the structure was similar to that of Umbrell, that the whole thing ran in Docker containers and so on. They have actually now made a conscious decision to move away from the fact that they are no longer Docker containers, but are now comparable to the Linux containers that are used at Proxmosks. That means it's a different technology, the architecture, that is used to isolate the individual applications from each other. Simply because the decision is probably based on a more reliable or a more stable core that is then used here to run the individual applications on this Start9 server. But maybe this is just a quick introduction to the preview, something that just occurred to me when we were just talking about Start9. Yes, I think Sirius also said something about 21 in one of the news episodes. But I can't remember the number right now. In any case, it's nice that they're getting out of the loop again and I think the competition is stimulating business. Because, to be honest, it scares me a bit that they've sunk so low and not much happens anymore. But if it continues, that's good. I was just about to say, now you see, something is definitely happening. It looks chic, feels fluid and smooth. What I also have running here as a virtual instance on the PoxMux. Yes, if you have PoxMux, you can easily install it and pull it up and you don't have to install any services that require a lot of memory. But what I've tried so far looks pretty good. It's definitely worth a try. And with Umbrell 1.7 you can of course also download it into PoxMux as the current beta. So same, same topic. But yes. Cool. Then we actually come to the first, although we are still in the old topic block, we still come to the first negative point. There is, well, we had already planned, I don't even know when, half a year ago or something like that. There was, there was one, where malicious code was pushed into Node.js. So where somehow access to someone, i.e. the private keys to Node.js, was somehow stolen or at least somehow malicious code could be inserted into it. And Node.js is one of the most relevant libraries in the JavaScript environment, which is used millions or billions of times somewhere in the world. And there was something similar right now, that is, Versel was hacked and Versel is probably the provider of Next.js. This is a JavaScript library, which is also partly used in Bitcoin applications, because they are also JavaScript libraries, especially now again in the topics that are web-based in the place that probably has up to six million weekly downloads, this Next.js, now not only in Bitcoin Context, but basically everywhere in all topics. And then it actually happened that someone sold the internal things, i.e. an internal database, in order to then distribute chart code via Versel or Next.js. And the main problem is exactly the same as it was with Node.js, which was that you can push chart code into this repository and a lot of devices simply make this change automatically. We just had an average of 6 million downloads per week, which then automatically pulls in this chart code. And especially if there are Bitcoin wallets or something like that, in this case you now have, even if you as a wallet provider, now that your code is clean, you still have a dependency on a third-party library, which then poses a risk for it, just because you have built in a dependency somewhere because you are using it. And that just makes it an example of how vulnerable the whole topic is. Even if you, as a developer, supposedly think that you are on the safe side, it can still always be the case that if you integrate Rittools, the dangers are more likely to be lurking, because of course, especially with such a provider that maintains such a large library, from my point of view it is simply a honeypot, which is more likely to be targeted then than now somehow, I don't know, I look at the source code or I somehow come up with it, yes, I don't know. a wallet provider or something else like that yourself. Yes, how do you see that? I was just thinking about it, right now, you're talking about programmers, but this whole topic will probably become even more blatant with Vibe coding, when people might start checking a lot less. We're talking about this new model at Anthropic, which apparently finds all the errors everywhere and that's why so far it's only been given out to the big companies, myth, not like the beer from Greece, exactly, and they somehow gave it out to Microsoft, Google and so on, so that they can find all the chart software, all the bugs or something like that. Yes, exactly, that is being withheld so that it is not made public or available. This is exciting, so would more charting software be produced or will it get better? Yes, what does chart software mean? I think the problem is actually here with the myth topic, now it is perhaps a bit detached from this supply chain attack now here on Node.js, which is then the reason or Next.js in this case it is not Node.js, but Next.js, which could then take place, it is then more likely that with such a potent model, like the one supposedly built by Anthropic or available or still holding back, so to speak Just send your agents here, you now have the superpower of Mythos under your ass and you can go to, I don't know, Bank Y or any other places or services on the Internet and see if you can get in there. So just send your agents out to hack or crack on the spot. I think that tends to be the problem. But yes, it will definitely remain exciting. So the dynamic is definitely increasing in many respects. So at least or this dynamic already prevailed before, but you now perceive it much, much, much more consciously. In my opinion, through the whole AI topic. Yes, I'm already a step back now. Well, when I put this open claw on myself, I was really close to the thing, but you can't keep up with it. So if you want to follow things somehow, Open Claw somehow updates every two days with some news. So I make sure that I can use it for the things that I need it for and otherwise I have to stay away from these things. And if you look at the content, it's also super noisy on YouTube or something. That's awful. We will tend to have more and more AI-generated content that is also in video or audio format. Yes, since you're still hearing it, that's what you're hearing, actually spoken by people. But who knows, of course it could be that at some point we will release a purely AI-produced episode with supposedly real voices. Who knows? I've actually had ideas before. So the technology for this already exists. It's still super expensive. So it's simply not affordable to produce a longer podcast format using AI-generated voices or something like that, because you just can't pay for that. Then somehow a subscription from Eleven Labs I think or something like that. These are the leading ones or Eleven Labs something like that. So it's definitely the leading provider when it comes to voice processing or something like that in the AI ​​environment. If you just want to somehow generate an episode or votes every month that's an hour long or something like that, it costs 1000 dollars or something like that. Well, it's simply not possible to pay for it at the moment in this context because you somehow produce such long formats and then theoretically you should be able to produce several tracks at the same time. Then you'll probably cost even more, if you really want to put together an AI-generated conversation first. Yes, anyway. But that will definitely happen, I think. Good. Let's move on to the next topic block. It's about news and regulatory stuff. Maybe an exciting thing at first. the Parasite Pool has painted its second block. We found it quite interesting to mention that again. What is this pool again? So here, I don't know, the Zekko or something like that is the symbol, in the sense of the parasite. It has a hybrid payout model and the joke is that whoever finds the block will definitely get a Bitcoin and the rest will then be distributed proportionally, as is usual with divided pools, to all other participants and that's a bit of a tick model that those who tick it can also get something from the person who finds the block. The pool is very attractive because it has no fees. Yes, if you're interested in a payout model like that, then it might be quite interesting. It then sort of falls between these two extremes. Either you get everything or you get part of the hashrate. If you want to position yourself somewhere in the middle, I think that would be something. I had seen it in some Telegram group and because Jan Paul was on the Techbus a few years ago he brought this Parasite Pool with him, I think. And that's why I brought it with me, we had already talked about it back then, because I thought, maybe it's nice that you can now see that this parasite pool is now apparently so big that it has actually found the second block at some point and yes, that this mining model will then obviously be accepted, at least to a certain extent. So I think it's an interesting concept. Yes, Ledger was in the news again, our well-known company for data leaks and there was a supply chain fraud and apparently fake Ledger Nano S Plus appeared on many marketplaces and yes, there is modified hardware in it and the most relevant thing is that seeds and pins were saved in plain text on this device when you entered them and were then transferred to the attacker servers and then the principle of not entering a seed somehow on the keyboard is of no use to you either you think you have a real device. Yes, that's why everything that was done with such devices was cleared out and that's a bit different than the address list that was there from Ledger, where some people also received something. Here it was actually the case that there were marketplaces where you could apparently buy counterfeit devices. Exactly. At the same time, there are always fake apps, and this time it appears to be a fake Ledger Live app. Of course, we also recommend that you don't necessarily just use the app that comes with the device so that you don't have to trust a manufacturer, but rather use proven open source models like Sparrow. Good tip, I actually didn't include it in our list, but I actually included what we had listed. There was it again, the wonderful Sparrow app for iOS in the Apple App Store, I think it was now the third time that it was somehow made available, which of course is still a scam even the third time. So the Sparrow Wallet doesn't exist, even though we keep mentioning it here. This is a pure desktop or terminal for the computer application, it is not an Android or iOS application. And if you see Sparrow on iOS or somehow Google Play Store or somewhere else like that, it's always a scam. And this is actually the third time that this has happened again, that the iOS Store was there again and again people lost money or funds because they then thought that they were using the Sparrow Wallet on iOS, great, on the iPhone and then it was still a scam thing again, which then somehow slipped through these tests from Apple, which are so great, now for the third time again and I'm really asking myself, what's going on, how can that be? that a scam like that, which has been thrown out of the store twice, is already in there again. So I have no idea. So always be careful what you download. Documented damages are apparently $9.5 million at the moment with 50 rising victims and somehow a musician lost 5.92 Bitcoin because he then entered his seed phrase into this device. Hopefully everyone who bought this device gets it. Exactly, hopefully everyone who bought this device gets this news and there won't be any more victims. What else can we give you? In any case, never use wallets that you buy from the manufacturer yourself or from very trustworthy sources in the software. This will only help you to a limited extent here, but of course that should always be clear. Yes, you don't enter your seed phrase on the computer. And actually, as a general rule, any app that asks for 24 words is always a scam. Otherwise, ask three trustworthy Bitcoiners in your area before you do that. Yes. That's the way it is. And on the black side it actually goes that Kraken is probably somehow affected by an insider attack and is being blackmailed on Basis. So this is Kraken, the relatively large exchange is being blackmailed by a criminal group that somehow seems to have videos of internal systems and client data and so probably has access to sensitive information. And this group would like to get money from Kraken, otherwise this data will probably be published. That's probably the bottom line here. Exactly. It's probably the case that 2,000 accounts are affected by this, and the data here and there somehow got lost. Kraken probably doesn't want to pay or negotiate with people. So they'll probably just wait it out and work with the law enforcement authorities so that they can then locate this group of extortionists and then bring them to justice. But here again the core message is that central exchanges are of course a popular target for criminals, in order to access certain data in some form in the honeypot, in order to then either get information about Bitcoin holders or here at this point they try somehow to rip off money from the exchange itself by blackmailing the company. Yes, I think that’s the core message here. This is also a wonderful transition, in fact, that we were talking about information that you get from any leaks or hacks from exchanges, central exchanges, because there are now reports here, there is also a find from Twitter, which Karlsons played into our Tech Boost collective feed, that the risk becomes physical, in the sense that the attacks are really on Bitcoiners and so on blackmail, so to speak that you really have the classic 5 dollar ranch attack, that it is becoming real and that here is criminals Access to names, telephone numbers, addresses, e-mail addresses and so on comes, in order to then of course start phishing attacks on the one hand, that's basically the harmless thing at that point and yes, if of course addresses or something like that, i.e. really residential addresses are leaked, then of course the whole thing makes the matter even more dangerous on the one hand, because then in case of doubt people will actually stand in your anteroom and say "shut me up." Head, give me your Bitcoin wallet or your seed or something else. But what was specifically described here was that the car from this tweet, which we are basically using here, had received a Google Support email, i.e. a ticket, which was actually signed by Google, that it was an official ticket or had received an answer to it, so to speak, but this user had never opened a ticket with Google and this made it seem as if the official Google Support, which had been signed, that it was an official Google address, was trying to start a phishing attempt on the person in question Users by scamming people. I mean, we talked in great detail about the topic of data protection and regulation two episodes ago and we talked about all the problems that can lead to if they can help. The Mintzcrime Podcast made the current episode about 5 Dollar Rancher Tech. Above all, the focus was once again on France, where we had this to a very high degree this and last year. I think the evidence is everywhere here now. So you know, it goes through. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Exactly, so much so that there is a heightened awareness in your direction that this is definitely a risk, which affects us or something here on Bitcoiners in some form or even now about the crypto. It's not just Bitcoin, it's basically shitcoins or something like that. It would then be exactly the same if they were kept in custody themselves, that there would be a risk of being physically blackmailed at that point. Let's move on to two people who are in prison. One is the good Roman Storm, who is still in prison for Tornado Cash. That was this mixer for Ethereum and the other one is Kion Rodriguez, who continues to write from his prison about how he is doing and I find it very interesting that Kion takes a look at the current regulatory situation or the past from his perspective. He sees it this way: we are actually on the right track in the USA. He says that this is actually what was going on under Biden and Senator Warren at the time, was actually a war on crypto and that under Trump we have made clear progress in containing this thing and freeing Ross. But it has not yet completely penetrated into the state apparatus. I think he said, for example, that the Bitcoins that are lying somewhere and something like that should be made transparent everywhere, if I don't. His appeal is, so to speak, that until the prisoners are free, nobody is actually free, because it's still about writing software in both cases. They weren't convicted of that, but that's basically what they did. They didn't hold the keys. With Kion it was actually the case that he was explicitly in charge and asked whether they were now money transmitters or not. And the situation was very clear: anyone who doesn't hold keys is not a money transmitter. And in the end they were taken for it. I find it funny, especially with the Tornado Cash issue, that it's all legally difficult. If you don't do it with the Lancaster, you'll be busted for it in some way. And here's a funny quote that sums up the absurdity. Operating a mixer isn't illegal. So operating a blender is not illegal. But if you operate a mixer you go to jail. So it doesn't matter. What you're doing isn't illegal, but you're still going to jail. Interesting interpretation of the legal system. Yes, Tornado Cash actually just keeps running. This is a protocol that apparently cannot be switched off. That means who is now condemning who for the fact that this is still going on, it's a very strange situation. So it is a crime that is committed without a criminal, so to speak. Well, that's true. Tornado Cash, the novel Storm, is currently being revised. This is in contrast to Keane Rodriguez's Samurai Boys. And Bill Bill Hill, so blah blah blah Hill, I don't know, I don't know what the abbreviation of Bill is, so the full name. Anyway, but they pleaded guilty and basically went to prison without an appeal. I'm not sure, because I think Roman Storm is still in. That's why these are actually reports that are then given in the context by the judge, because apparently there is still renegotiation, in the appeal. What is now with Keane Rodriguez, who, now that you have to say, that's why, that was also letter 6 from him, he publishes these letters, we already had them, you had already brought them with you in Tech Boost a few months ago when he started with the fact that he has actually been in prison for two years, including pre-trial detention. And even though he's only been convicted since, yeah, when was it in October, I think, or November, I think he's actually just been convicted. So he's still out now, even though he's only officially serving six years or six months of his sentence, he was still in prison a year and a half before. Or under investigation. I think they got five years. Yes, but the one and a half years of pre-trial detention do not count towards the five years. They'll still come up, won't they? No, no. Is that so? Yes, yes. That doesn't make any sense at all. It's clear that you're basically deprived of your freedom, right? But I mean, he had an ankle bracelet, I think, he was at home under house arrest, I mean. He was somehow in favor of, it was somehow like that, that he somehow had to pay a million dollar bail and then somehow had to be grounded in an ankle bracelet. Yes. That's how it was, I think. OK. In Germany it is taken into account if you are in prison and have not yet been convicted, then you have already served part of the sentence. I don't know whether this also applies to the ankle bracelet, but I can imagine it. I don't know, but okay, if you say so, I've looked into our legal system. I would have always thought, okay, it will be sentenced and if they sentence you for five years, then the five years count from now on. Plus of course somehow good leadership, blah blah blah or minus that or I know what then. Or if you apply for early relief, I don't know what there is. I don't know. Exactly, those are the two points about our, yes, the open source developers who stood up for privacy on the Internet or in digital payment transactions and went to jail for it. So maybe there's another hint that, there is still this find, there is a website where you can also support Keen and Bill, the two Simmer developers. This is billandkeen.org. Yes, it's certainly interesting to go in there again, because, yes, because again, perhaps to conclude, Keen's appeal has been one of the Crypto Prisoners for so long, so now in this case, he, Bill and Roman Storm are in prison, none of us are free. So that's almost like a literal quote or a similar quote at this point that the war on crypto is still not won at this point. But yes, maybe something will happen now during Trump's term in office. But I'm actually not that optimistic. But let's come to our already announced positive conclusion. We've just been on negative topics the whole time. There is such a short message, but I think it is definitely positive. Zetti, would you like to graduate? Yes, the topic of Satoshi is very current. As if the Blocktrainer had smelled it, a Satoshi archive has apparently been secretly built up recently, which you can now browse through on the Blocktrainer website. And yes, it's quite funny because a new documentary just came out, or I think even two, one that Adam Beck made about Satoshi again and the latest Helfini and the first Sassman, right? Mmm. Yes. And exactly, this Satoshi archive contains all the e-mails that he kept and all other correspondence that is related to him and is completely visible and actually translated, so the normal data is of course in English, but you can then have it translated. And now you can do your own research, so to speak. Up to now there was mainly this book of quotes, I don't even remember what it's called. Book of Satoshi. Exactly. But of course it didn't have a search function and this digital search function is of course now Goldferb, who have now set it up. I think, looking at it, the AI ​​must have helped them, right? I think so too, yes. Yes, exactly. The cool thing is, it's a full-text search, which means that if you look for certain keywords or something like that in all of these correspondences, texts and so on, then you'll find the corresponding places there. satoshi.blogtrainer.de is the domain, so if you're interested in that, because it's really a bit in the past of what our Satoshi was saying back then, if you want to stand up for it, I think that's a really good point and also now because it's good and quasi accessible at this point. I think that's the feature itself here. Yes, and from my point of view that is the last and therefore the positive point with which we wanted to end today. Yes, we saved all these wallet updates today, you've always heard them in the last episodes, now that Zeus has released version 0.015789 again, maybe we'll come back next time if there's blatant news. That's the way it is. We actually want to use the tech boost, so it was never actually the idea, but now it's actually a bit like that, so that you always get new impulses somehow. Okay, here, oh, that's a cool topic, look, after they've talked about it, I'll take a closer look, it might be interesting for me too. And if you just keep talking about the same five things, then that's nice in a way, but it doesn't really give you a combination of them and at the same time still this, which today is of course more of what we have called the dark side of our Yim and Yang, then this appeal to how important data security is and that you should pay a little bit of attention to your data and your privacy, because you still keep reminding yourself of that a little bit, then that's certainly the case be, still have its added value, that you will at least remember that you should perhaps look into it or at least pay a little more attention to where and with whom you share your data, but yes, so much for that. Yes, I actually recently tried out this Mostro, i.e. this decentralized peer-to-peer network via Nostr, but they had also released an agent integration and I had my agent install it, just to have a look I also said to myself, now try something out again, I just contacted the agents anyway, take a look. Yes, he managed to do all that, but of course the liquidity, as you can imagine, wasn't particularly great now, that's always a bit of a problem with these new decentralized exchanges when there's nothing going on yet and there are good alternatives, so there's not much baked in yet. But maybe try it out with a few euro dollars, especially if you do it with the agent, i.e. automatically, then it's actually fine. I then ask myself, how can you get the Fiat Rail to be mapped in such an agent, so that it also serves the Fiat interface, automated or is that not possible at all? To be honest, what you just said sounded very nice, but he found an offer in some strange currency that I didn't know. So I think the liquidity is even worse than what you imagine. At least my agent couldn't find anything better. I now urgently need to try the Android app again to see if it outputs it differently so that I can actually see liquidity in euros and actually do a trade like that. That would perhaps also be a link to what you just said. So we really don't get around to trying out all the cool apps and things we present here. And if you say you've delved into a topic like this and would like to talk to us about it, come get in touch. We are always interested in hearing your experiences. Clear. turning to us. That's the way it is. You definitely have other things to do. And then the week, especially now with children, is relative or the day is very, very short and you have little time for other things. But yes, I'll tell him that. Good. It's time we have something about Value for Value. If you like what we do here, leave a few sats and you'll continue to get it. Some fresh news from the Bitcoin and regulatory world and so on and so forth. I don't have any more. I'm done. Me neither. Top. Then, thank you Zetti for doing this together. Nice, well-rounded episode. Short, naked. It wasn't short at all. Nope. Tip top. Then in that sense focus on the signal, not on the nice. Not on the nice. I wish you a nice morning, lunch, evening, night, wherever you hear us. Have fun with it. Take care. Take care. Bye. Enjoy spring. Ciao, ciao.