39 | Creation or creation? Our true relationship with AI Agents

When I was making the introduction, Song Duotao, this time I was also invited by you to cancel the offer. Let’s come and chat together. I am in Focus Media. I am one of the six people working on AI in Focus Media. I am also working as an AI development resource company outside, and I am also doing AI marketing in Chaos. Okay, I can introduce the current one. Hello everyone, I am An Tang, I am Liu Zeren from Level 3, and Level 3 is a community and resources that support software AI. We have mainly come out to return to the Valley, and got Petrocell, Pentera for stuff storage, and recently Dragonwork’s Brandtl, which are all relatively large. In the future, I will personally help some ASRs to do some AFL or some peer-to-peer signings with classmates and funding institutions. So if you are looking forward to it, share it with everyone. Hello everyone, I first started working in government public relations, working as a lobby, and then I worked as a lobby for about thirty years, mainly working as a lobby for the US government. Then I later came into contact with the technology industry, met my current partner, and invited me to join EVA, so we are now working on projects like this EVA. Because I have done this before, I may have had some exposure to various industries, so I really have to learn a lot. So when we chat later, we can also capture your thoughts. Yes, then on your side, let me ask the first question at the end. good. In this way, I am working on many technologies, which we can hear together, right? There is also a news public relations, because there are many, in fact, I am also, my most background is from the media to the literary side, and then if I am in Groogle or Btl, I am also doing content, which is actually needed. So what I am actually saying is that this year I will also use the OPCLAW, which is a sports set that can AGI. In fact, I have been thinking about it, that is to say, the capabilities of AI are getting bigger and bigger now, and we can all feel it. So there will be such a thing, that is to say, whether there will be a subjectivity issue that is considered. Therefore, although I am a big netizen, I still want to say that I can start from a more specific point. That is, can you introduce yourself, at least if you are not exposed to AI, it is the first point. I think a lot of people are talking about switching to GPT and starting to get in touch with it. But when it comes to Edging, when did you use Edging, or Claw Co, or lobster? Yes, after you came into contact with it, what was your own feeling? Yes, there is a kind of Aha, where is the baby of the lobster? I really want to explain this feeling to everyone's science students. Then start with a smile. The first person to talk about AI was probably the same as everyone else, probably more than three years ago. OpenAI, then my earliest Chair GPT, but I laid the foundation of our conversational big science. It also basically laid the foundation for the earliest, and, it also basically laid the foundation for the earliest, and, I also love this form of our interaction. In fact, I say that now, conversational science is still the proportion I use the most. I am a Glock user who takes this seriously. Because I am here, I use Twitter as a user. So I'm a Glock user. Then we also believe that each different AI uses its own different personality. If everyone has been exposed to it, I would find it quite interesting. Chair GPT is like a very woof woof woof, should be this, a role. Always gives you too much semantics, too many of these. Then, maybe like Glock, his character is very cool and very similar to Musk. The date feels very firm as I speak. So the earliest one is used, the earliest I heard it should be. Then, using AI Vision, or OperCore, is probably similar to everyone else. During the Spring Festival this year, it became popular. Then I felt at that time that in fact, although I am in this industry, I might have been exposed to OperCore earlier than everyone else. But I haven't used it yet. Then during the Spring Festival, I saw the craze among people playing drums, so I tried to go back and use it. Then I discovered that because OperCore is more powerful, it takes things that we might have done before through distribution, and then does them together. In fact, AI will find that many of your previous jobs had a reason for your work. You can provide a frame of your own. Then maybe, I think you need to spread out the entire environment, or give your virtual drag again, teach it again, so that it can achieve such a process. So for me, it has become an assistant that I think will be more collective or more unified, to help me do some of the things I did just now by distributing sub-stories. So it's possible, this is my story about going from UIA to UIA. Until now, to be honest, I have not used UIA Code as much as I imagined. I discovered one thing about it, and what I can honestly say is that it was not the Oak itself that started its chaos, but its entire training process, and the communication process between me and it. After I just saw this game in China, I think I have more to do with this work. I think it's integrated into this work, but I'm very surprised because I haven't done a report like this. We just learned a lot. I may be similar to most of you. Maybe I have been exposed to it and used it, and then maybe half of me thinks it is nothing more than that. But I think maybe China will tell us that there are more people who can try it. So just like me, if you have some, you can use one more as you go forward. I think there was also GT AI, which was probably 22 years old at the time, and then it was mainly GT. At that time, the main model of this model was that GN was a conversational wave-shaped model, because the main focus of GN was the general version. But what I really feel is that this AI is called, or we also advocated one, which is AT. When the wave-shaped AI comes, it should be GT. Then after the Azirubic Cloud appeared later, there began to be some different changes. Then through the model, in one aspect of my work, I will use different AIs. It clearly benefits every aspect of my work. For example, the current Codex and this TT. In fact, I still prefer to use Codex. The main reason is because I am currently in China, and the Cloud is less likely to be codexed. Secondly, as for GT, although it is very verbose, after entering its model, I think it is relatively good in the domain you solve. But if you want to do some viscosity after entering and exiting, I think the effect it can feel is not necessarily smoother than Cloud. For me, I am not a backend, but a very light-hearted person, so I think Codex is very useful. Then Block and Plexity, these two are the sources I used to find this information. Especially Plexity, it only needs to find some Resourcing for you. Then at the time of Jiminite, the then Gnana, and the subsequent ASQ, when everyone came out, there was still no Apple. But I don’t know why. Recently, I used Genina to find these feeders, and the answers I got were all very wrong. So today I abandoned Genina and I used it for some expensive pictures and the like. And in terms of Bochan, around the end of last year, I remember Bochan’s large model DC Cuttiny Minimax was a big explosion, and then I put a lot of them into it. I switched to the big model of gambling, especially some of the principles of operation in Chinese and the speed of this market, because I have my own public account. Then one of my current processes is that I will use Chatttt, Grow and Platty to find an agent, and then call it to the production broadcast of this public account or the Chinese production and broadcast reasons. Of course, there is also this Minimax, which can also be used, but I may be more dependent on this DC. And there is another one because I just saw this Toy, can he still hurry up? He said that he typed the 8 characters by hand, whether it was an EP platform kill. Then I also used DC 738. Then the fourth one I saw was an ordinary baggage man who had the best understanding of Chinese culture. Then I discussed this matter with some classmates, and then went to see how the Approof of this was done. I don’t know if you have done it. In the first half of the year, about half a year ago, there was a very broken one. Of course it was a Word3 factory. The one I came to was Li Sheng from the K world, and then theirs. Falter is a full-line approach to figure 8. I also discussed it with him at the time. I said this wave power model. After the step-by-step evolution, Ross's understanding of this complex one has exceeded the scope of this ordinary beginner. Of course, the premise is that your figure 8 should be queued. Who is the queue? It was in 2024. In 2024, they had just moved to Singapore. They came to Singapore with Yishou. Then I think the only one left was Moza. Most of the brands were used to make Low's Approach. Because at that time, Approach was like now, and Katumd. At that time, you still have to know about the phone behind it. You still have to know what is the problem with that program in this and that code. So it is easier to use than it is now. But at that time, it basically took a lot of time to use it. I spent half a day on speeding up the website I wanted, and then including it, jumps, and domain names here and there, and so on. The advantage Manderson gave me at the time was that I felt that I didn’t need to adjust to other major departments. I only needed to add Manderson because it basically helped you go from this, the early one, this TRD, right, to the things in the past, and the domain name behind it. It’s no wonder that you included it all, so you can complete it in ten million. And then I came back to this Over Club Over Club because of this big parade, and you definitely don’t want to miss this opportunity, but I participated in many activities at that time. I personally think that the function of this market is greater than the function of technology, that is, most people feel that they don’t want to be branded. Then I asked everyone to take this. I went down and thought that anyway, the answer to 80 may be some relatively simple tasks, because you are really on the ground. In your work or study, you don’t really need some process capabilities that can be grabbed. Or it will come out later that if you really want to play with your OPC, it still depends on your own business capabilities and your expansion of this dimension. So I personally feel that in my current work trend, I do not particularly rely on an agent. I rely more on different representative models. What are the strengths it targets? Then although I virtualize in each link, it is different. I asked you to do a cross-validation. This may be me. Currently, Wallflow is used more as a habit machine. For the agent, I was the first. The Cloud Code I was using was a good friend of mine, Imi. I asked him what was the difference between this Cloud and Cloud Code. Then he said that Cloud was a large-scale AI, and his Cloud Code was an Agent. Then he said, let me download it myself and give it a try. Then, the Cloud Code at that time was that you could only use it after subscribing, and he used it very quickly, so I might have given up on the Pro at that time, but it was indeed amazing after that. I wanted to buy it. It was so amazing. Like Operol and this Hermès, I have actually tried it for a while. Now, for my theme nationality, I still rely on Code because Pro is really good. Now it is basically the agent that I run the most locally. And the following words are currently asking my friends for some advice on some hands-on scenarios related to IMP Agent. But specifically, I feel that no matter which Agent is used, it still believes in serving everyone. So if there is business, I think I can get one. Maybe an Agen like IMP or Xiaolongjia t Because he can help you with business 24 hours a day, but because I am now, for example, the self-media verification mentioned just now, and there are some GNVs, I will find that, especially when he is going to do the promotion work, it would be more suitable if you are still on the profit and end, then I will let the profit and end. But for example, I have to do the deployment of the new QO. I am now directly connected to my graph through my TroCode. Now it is the most convenient, so it is a completely distributed scenario. I hope not to be kidnapped by tools. If you want to use a cloud server or something like that, it all depends on the business and then see if it is necessary. I think please be patient, so I won’t go into details. It is the result of TroCode. Because of my identity, on the one hand, I am an AI user, and I also need to develop and deploy the company’s AI. So, in fact, for our scenario, we will find that in the company, let’s talk about the company first. I heard about it once. In the scene, there are many more people who should know that they are doing crown-level reports. And because our boss, everyone may also More or less, it's a bit ugly, right there with Mr. Zhang. One of our biggest holes in the company is that Mr. Zhang is a 100-point player and most of the sales ladies. He may be a 60-point player. We need a clone. Right, now we need a clone. How about we make Mr. Zhang's ability available to most of the sales? Then we, in fact, this thing started to happen. I just had this RAG system and then in the end, the Edge AI method. But in fact, you finally found that people like Mr. Jiang are very successful. For people with very high confidence, you don’t need to go at all. You use a good business model and then you use this prompt word to inspire and then add some warnings from the knowledge base. You can very well go and revive this knowledge system. Just a simple sentence. You are not enough now. You really haven’t said it. Part of it is like this. Yes, and then there is another part because of this. In fact, as a company, you are still very complicated because you have to give things that you have to consider. You have to give them to the people of Jerak for them to use. ENGENIC's understanding of this Flow is definitely something that everyone here will not think of. In this industry, it is understandable that they hope to have a better-used bean bag or a chipbox that is more understanding of the weight than buying a bean bag. So this part is the construction of the company's AI. Then, for me, in my own words, in fact, I may be more centrist than others. A process that I have used for a long time, like Person or IDE tools like this, I think. The tools of this IDE are actually very suitable for the middle ground among chipbox and real agents. I mainly say this today. If you don't quite understand the contact arrangement of the IDE and the invocation of its tools, in fact, when you get to the agent, you will find that you are completely dragged away by the AI. So you are the AI, which helps you complete the so-called business and handle it more mindfully. Your own understanding of this matter actually has no way, very good. I think this is the case all the way. A very key thing for everyone is that maybe I am an inexperienced person. Maybe I am in my early stage. I want to go to PRD. I have to make my energy consumption into a skill first. But for most people, it is taken away by AI. So I think it is still very important to use IDE to understand this colonel arrangement. And speaking of it, in fact, whether it is Ownclaw or Amari Amari, it is indeed not useful. I have no say. Ownclaw, I am a you platoon. It costs 30 million yuan, and there are many people. Then we made Xiaolong, Xiaolong, automatically publish, and let him review the content by himself. It is my own feeling. Do you want to put it in a real review, in the outer realm, or more humanistic. So the current Ownclaw is not very useful, so I can do it myself. I rely on Steel very late at night. Then I use Ownclaw as a Steel people-inspired launcher. The so-called commands have been injected into it. You can ask me instead. Okay, this kind of command will be fine. I don't rely much on the problem of Ownclaw itself, but rely on myself. I also have some reminders of freedom. It's almost like this. When did you first come into contact with Peniton and start using Peniton? Is it Cuzzle? I think the real one is slowly starting to understand. This time it started with Cuzzle. Last year in Shanghai, so before that, I think it was very popular in Yezhou, Taiwan, last year. I think this, I can only talk about Clo. I can’t say that it’s been a while since I contacted Peniton. I was preparing for it in Hong Kong. We held a Jianghu. I held a military event. At that time, I was already on that social media. It was mainly recommended. I saw a lot of people on it. That is to say, OpenClaw was done. It was a multi-group talk. Any priest actually wanted to hear about it. Unexpectedly, I also mentioned that I was the Mobo. It seemed to be here for many months. I thought it was very miraculous at that time, because before this, I believe it was the same as most people, that is, I went over to chat with him. In fact, I am also a paid user of Change ET, but I think it has been very miraculous, just now. I also talked about that Luo Song, and I think he is very powerful. You know, the things he gave are very mediocre. I said, so I signed GPT at the beginning of the Spring Festival. Then I gave the Cloud, which is 20 US dollars per page. After using it, it is all paid for the side fees. Because I also noticed that at the end of last year, mainly 30% of us, because many of them are action users of Apps, they will put a lot of those. Go share it now, how is it easy to use, and then that, that, that, in the deep end, and the original experience, after I did it, I felt, indeed, I think, for example, when it came to Cloud, I felt that it was indeed clicked on the Change button on the subscription fee, so the whole thing, Cloud said this, his part of the problem is to first collect the analysis of the problem, especially I think I am a Chinese person, that is to say, I have been working in writing for many years. I met a media and then they were all public relations people. In fact, I definitely have requirements for words. In the past, I felt that dark articles were very trustworthy. Although others also had to spread a lot, I think what Cloud said was very clear. Of course, I also read a lot of them. Sharing means that it cannot be simple, that is to say, throw some away, and give it to him in simple words. Because you give him that income, you share it very well. If you use it, he will output it to you, which is also very long, so what I also learned is to say how to talk to Cloud, just like what China just said, call him Cloud text, just go and have a conversation with him. I asked him to first throw all my writing, writing, and making things to him for about ten years, and let him help me analyze, and then learn my unlocked habits, styles, and characteristics. I think his analysis has special principles. The analysis means that I have not noticed anything special. Then based on this analysis, that is to say, I was giving him a suggestion. At that time, I thought OberCloud, I said you, I will search it and say that I write these things. If not Cloud, who is the most dedicated person for three months? Then he collected a large number of cases for me. I also know that he collected them for me. I felt very good at the time. Then the articles we published will be many next time. I think this article really means to help him understand. In fact, it also helps me understand. Without Cloud, I believe everyone knows. It's a big tool factory, right? It sells servers, right? It sells servers, right, like I said, and there is a space bank that our BKN is very famous for, right? It means that you immediately take this thing and go to make that lobster machine. And that is, it moves very quickly, that is, this kind of development, that is, taking courses, and so on. So, it is very clear. Of course, there are many people who say that it is used to choose sex supplements. In fact, after analysis, it is not reliable, so I am right. I wrote it at the same time. I also installed it myself. I crawled to install it relatively early, specifically to buy a LifeMini and finally installed it in February. But after I installed it, I actually felt that it was the same as many people. I felt that I was very struggling, so I analyzed it. Maybe the model I used was inferior, so I did the same. I heard KOS recommend it and installed the MiniMax, right? I just said that the MiniMax seemed to be a good tablet, but after actually using it, That is to say, the performance is relatively poor, that is to say, so in fact, my main thing, which is the most important KPI that I have always used, is that before I uninstalled the OverCloud, it was not on time and completely on time. Our requirement is to push me an explanation or weather report at 7 o'clock every morning, but it was not successful. Then on Taozi, it took too much time. In fact, my OverCloud said on my Backend that it had been uninstalled three times manually, and I uninstalled it. It is a very thorough one, that is to say, this topic is all uncertain for us, so I format it and then re-recruit, so I mastered my transformation in OverCloud, that is to say, I installed it to move until the firmus. Of course, I feel that after changing to a TQB model, I still feel that indeed, it finally passed. My first level is to be able to complete TQB. It now tells me to rush TQB at 7 o'clock in the morning. Attendance suggestions can be sent to me. That is to say, Regularly looking for digging points is a comprehensive news report at 7 o'clock in the evening. In fact, give me a briefing. It was a sentence or two at 2 o'clock. The current progress is good. I think until the past, I can only start with my command. That is to say, this just feels like Hanlon is indeed Clock. That is to say, I use one of its native APs to develop one. My first web product is also relatively simple, which is foreign language search, so related news, that news. Telegram Push Channel Later, I now see various methods. That is to say, I think why everyone is particularly enthusiastic about Oper Cloud because it does. Secondly, that is to say, it is local group data. I believe that after Keyb, in the three circles of the web, we actually have a stronger, clearer or more common awareness of local and privacy. So and I think that in the future, everyone will The more important personal need is definitely to put it locally. It is very critical. There is also a recent example. There is a small company overseas with about fifty people. They put all their electronic workers on the Cloud. Suddenly, the account was turned over, so the entire electronic company's business was turned over. If it was there at that time, I mean this has become a major issue like Oper Cloud. All the data and workers are placed locally and run. So, I just think, that is, no matter what it is now, it is like I can talk about the job of Hermers. Yesterday and the day before yesterday, I became a new type of podcaster. I was very happy and I finally understood the objections to the development of Hermers Agent. In fact, it is also your original objection. They originally started from the community and worked together like an interest group to develop and play with various new and open-door models. Then they started to do it and then developed various new things in the open source model, and then finally launched the Hermers Agent thing. So I thought, no wonder I uninstalled this Oper Cloud and installed this thing. I feel like I should buy someone and put it there and use it. This is what I am talking about now. I am currently talking about using Agent. An explanation said that we just listened to the understanding here today. Especially compared with the weekend, I feel that it is still a few times worse. I am a little bit behind. I am not ordinary yet. So I still say that if it can be used for creation, it is still a month, right? You use it to chat and then put the content into other things. Actually, let’s just say it’s not complete yet, so it can really be turned into a content partnership. So my second question is, when you use this kind of Agent, does it bring some cognitive or emotional feelings to you, that is to say, will you write a kind of excitement or support excitement? It’s called Yue Translation. I’ve heard about our products. Let me give you an example. Well, the development of Agent on our platform has gone through roughly these stages. The first stage is because we are a social platform. As we have just introduced to you, we hope to be able to generate personal avatars on a social platform like ours. This is called generating personal avatars. In the earliest testing stage, we spent a lot of effort and effort to have some. Now everyone, this thing can think far. In fact, it is a bit like everyone now. It is more popular. It is said to be upright. This is probably what we were doing at the time when we broke half a year ago. It took a lot of effort to own Trump, to go mainstream. We invested in him, all of Trump’s past tweets, all of his public speeches. The Trump family likes to write books very much, and they like to have his various public works in various and various specialties. Whether it is videos or we have pulled out all these materials. I think if I recall what Trump had at that time, if we put it in any word, it is probably at least tens of millions or more. To correct Trump and let this agent make Trump more like Trump, what was discovered? About a while ago, like two months ago, 61 days ago, then I asked him. I asked him, he said, what do you think? It is beautiful. It is beautiful to launch a war against one thing. Trump was very surprised and told me that you are definitely Fake News. It is impossible on my watch. It is impossible for something like this to happen because the United States must be given priority. I have expressed it many times if I am second. If I had Second Terms, I would definitely not do this. I would definitely not start this kind of war. I don’t know where you saw it. So this is Fake News. This Trump is not something we spent a lot of effort to come up with. But he told me that my answer at the time was like this. So you were giving us the first thought. At that time, I just mentioned that you need someone who is particularly like you, and this you who is particularly like you. In fact, he will give it to you many times, just to bring it to me. The result of this kind of seriousness is that he did not make a result that would really be like you. So what is he affected by? He is affected by many relationships around him, right? He may be affected by this guilt pressure, but he cannot be affected by his son-in-law. He cannot be affected by many JD Vance around him, right? Rubio, it is possible, or in some such situations, he is in such a relationship, and he will handle such decisions, and these things are things that we cannot leave alone. It's because we can't judge. If there is no way to make such a prediction, so this doesn't give us much. One idea is that we can't do such a thing. I can't pay attention to the end. I have to pick a 98% Trump and a 999% Trump. Even if I end up pinching a 99% Trump, it can still happen. After he studies in the past, he will find that, yes, Trump will never do such a thing in his second term because he has promised the American people. After he succeeds in the election, he will not develop war with foreign countries. This is Maga. This is Maga's core idea, right? So we enter the second stage, that is, we need someone who has Trump's personality and Trump's personality traits, but has other characteristics. A person like Trump with some skills is also what we give him. For example, chat and search Zhang Jianyao to get the latest news for analysis and interpretation. When combined with Trump's methodology to do such a thing, this person suddenly became enlightened. He felt something about this matter. He left. He walked around the difficulty. After using sgill, he was able to roughly give one. Maybe we were relatively satisfied and able to analyze, so after the second stage. We will think that we need an agent like this. What we need is not a Trump who is more like Trump. What we need is a Trump methodology. What we need is a Trump methodology that can predict some things and at the same time give those skills. He may give an offensive comparison, that is, a more desired answer. This is our second stage. When we were in the third stage, we discovered an interesting idea. Should we give Trump some other, more interesting abilities or Trump? He himself didn’t even think about the abilities he might have. This made us think it was more interesting, so we created a person called angry complaining Trump. This Trump does not output any political views or conduct any political analysis. He only does one thing, which is to complain in a Trump-style way about all the things given to him in the first place. He is a executioner. All his ways of complaining are Trump-style, this executioner style. Then we went to do something like this, and I suddenly moved. My friend said, does anyone know? I said that this Trump can actually go to the Shirane District Association to speak, because I don’t know that the Shirane District Association is a Trump. Among the projects in the Arctic, one of them will be interacted with in the form of a talk show. The one who had the incident the day before yesterday, such as the one in the T&C case, where he was killed by love again, that dinner event, so in this way, I will find that we have reached the third stage. This is 98% of us who do not need a Trump. We don’t need a Trump methodology to let him do Trump’s things. But if we have a Trump methodology or a Trump framework, we can give him many things to make him be a very interesting and fun person or let him be this very interesting Trump. Then he is in the hands of everyone. You can pinch the Trump you want. You can pinch a communist Trump. So I will discover this stage by stage. I will find that such a stage brings us some thoughts about the customer area, and then I think it is quite interesting. This is us. I enter our platform and chat here and there. It is me. I have some thoughts based on our platform. By the way, you will also have some thoughts in it, which is you. Now it is what AVING is going to do now. The kind you have for others. You talk about these and other feelings. It is emotional, or things are a little more, or a newlywed mother, or something, I think this question should be more rational. Yes, I think this question should be Let’s dismantle this Practical News from a practical level, and first let’s talk about this technology and other technologies. I think this matter may be related to us in Xinxiang, because everyone may think that they have to have fun at work. Then I think this matter will make your work very good. That is, after the emergence of this AI, for special people, such as emoters, it has a very strong single segment here, so it is those very powerful emoters who will definitely be retained, and many companies They all recruit such talents for a day or two in order to promote the language. Then secondly, if you are an emotional person and you are a science and technology person, you will be stronger because you have a very powerful artificial method. Looking forward to abstract ability, right? Abstract ability, for example, you can even go to break through your abstract ability. I like to watch some AI machine-based things recently. You don’t know, it is not put into that kind of AI machine system. What is the pain show? Go watch the phenomenon of multiple shows, so I originally said that this AI is better than me, right? Then you can even go and do your own perfect pain show. Then I think this thing is all yours. Make a living and wait a little. It depends on you first. You have a job. You may feel bad about it, but you can use these pictures to make your this better shift amplification and long and short effect amplification. In the same way, you can only test two AI hammers in one day and its transformation. Now you can use your clone to test it. There are more than ten or a hundred AI hammers. It depends on you. Which strategy can make you transform? Okay. Then the second question is whether it has helped my life. It has made me very troubled about my life, so there is no trouble. A while ago, I was chatting with everyone about the plans to check first, and they were quite positive. They said that because of the emergence of AI, my life has been deepened. It can save a lot of time, and it can be played, and the AI can be used by others to help it make a product. It will come even less. Look at its AI dialogue, that is, can you help me take a look at this picture? Okay, it will start. I have more time to chat and start, so I think this is very good. Even it is a very good point. In fact, a classmate, one, actually, this one, pretend to be photographed. Like everyone sent a letter at that time, it is really very good. Even my mother, even my side, knows about this. She can see it on the news. I think this thing is very good. It means that everyone is excited about the same thing, just like the Internet at that time, but it exploded, that is, everyone will want to go I am interested in doing this thing. Then the second thing is whether it makes me very, very happy. In fact, from a financial point of view, everyone has seen that the EU AI is now opening it up for IPO, and SpaceX allows people to find these. This thing in the United States has a lot of sky-high prices. What kind of bad thing will this thing bring? That is, it will drain all the liquidity, which will lead to a financial pain or AI project that everyone may not be worried about now. From a financial point of view, it should be in a relatively tense state. Although now, even if it is A5, you can find some of this. Although there are not many, the scene is very good, but today is good, but it does not mean that today is good. So I think from this perspective and from this perspective, if you want to invest or invest, there may not be some. It is a pity, but you still have to maintain a nervous attitude, and when to buy and launch. I think this is very important, so I think in this era I have happiness and time to maintain the scenery of this time. I think this is funny because AI has taken your. Everyone has eaten this, which means that the technology has become flat. So there are many things, maybe this, you can do it in the future. For example, I wanted to start a big V before. It was actually very difficult, but because of this, the cost of running a big V has been reduced. You can use AI to pretend to be cheap. You can even have the same function. Then learn a few accounts and then go to this to make money. In the past People's researchers may have a special interest like this, but now they are not interested. Now everyone is a researcher. I saw this recently. When I changed one on Twitter, everyone's preference is actually very strong. Of course, I should also make some money, and the information is a little bit worse. So I think after having these things, it depends on how you use it, whether you can get along with it, and then do a lot of things that you may not have thought about before. As for the future, I don't know that you will not work for you. I don't think this matter should be too big. Because Xiaoyu, because he takes you to work, don't worry. He will definitely bring his work. Everyone is working on the strategy. Everyone has no job, so I don’t have to be too anxious about these things. So, it is more of a mentality. You want to play and then don’t sign with him. I think this is more energy. Thank you, that’s what I should say. My personal view on agents is that I really can’t lack them now. So I had a big sign of a server the night before. I don’t want to give him the server from one wrist and then sign to another. As a non-technical person, it just doesn’t work. You can imagine how nervous I was because his data was very large. Then when I signed the first one, I spent three hours on the performance. And the result was that I was using Aubus 4.7. It was very powerful, very powerful, especially for a mission. But at the time, I looked at the Yiyi, Yiyi up and down dancers, and didn't pay attention to this. It was stuffed. I wore it and stuffed it. Then he kept reporting an error. At that time, I was thinking, "No, teacher Gao, what should I do next?" So when it is visible, I am going to be a non-technical person and actually have to do other things. Then I get used to it. After you two give it to him, he suddenly becomes polite and then he may, may really want to be gone. So when it comes to this topic, I am, I am very angry, but I am also quite frightened. In fact, it is true that many friends have mentioned this matter of dark love and human work. I think that the situation that Mrs. Yi had no need to think about just now has been very clear and very comprehensive. What I might be afraid of is that on the one hand, I may have thought about the full-skin UBI for Musk, for example, but to be honest, I am not optimistic about this matter because the capital is negative. Then I feel that there is no capital and he is doing good things, so my UBI is not that optimistic. But it is true that AI will create many different jobs and even different other companies. For example, I know many friends from Liren now. They may One person, with just a few people and a team, can achieve 40 million or 80 million yuan. Before going there, it was very difficult to achieve in a certain situation. But now, it is able to unleash your capabilities, verify your business, and release it faster. You can say it is very fast, you can also say it is very good. I think it fundamentally depends on the physical nature of our people and the rotation ability. You are not very young now, and you are 100 times as likely as you were before. The second quick verification is that among the 100 times, there may be one that is twice as likely to be monetized. Then you can go to this version department and wait for it. But if there may be a hundred times before, secondly, there is no way to start faster. Then I think it is possible to start a stock market business. Then the company, a store contacted me yesterday. He said he wanted me to be an AI investment company, a Taiwanese wealth company, a community benefit, and then he said he There is no such person in his video. The term is very low now. He may be thinking of it based on the current subtitles. But your actual AI system only brings one talent. Will he still be like this now? Can he take the initiative to use AI? Is he still willing to work in that company, such as in such a small business, which may be in an enclosed area, so I think it is still in that form now, that is, a unit. If you want to play wildly, you can cooperate with him for a long time. There is a big thing. He will zoom in. You calm down first and it can also make you see clearly. There seems to be no more money on you. It is just a confirmation. After you get the countermeasure, you can continue to iterate and zoom in. I think it is possible to let AI handle your routine for a long enough time. I think no matter what form it becomes in the future, this is for the rich and for migration. So personally, I am very slow-control and if the demand is honest, I really don’t know what to do. But what I use is that I use this long-term AI rhythm. You are familiar with the platform, and you are familiar with yourself. This form has a lot to do with it. In fact, I am particularly affected by the sentence I just said at the weekend, and the sentence on 5G at the end. It is my understanding that the world of AI does not give you some people who are the first to start. My feelings are also very profound because I am a big private company. So I have recently discovered that the time I am doing in front of the office is getting less and less, because most of my work All can be left to Agent to complete, all can be left to Coco to complete, but I will also find that in fact, many people around me are not in this form. They think that when someone controls something very quickly, I am faced with having to do more things. So this is what I want, so I think because strange things are possible in the circle of AI, including the circle of OPC, so everyone will feel that it is a happy thing to be able to copy their own weather. I think there are many bad things. It's not that big. This is my first feeling, which is whether AI will do the work of the agent. Of course, I think I can give you a good example. Since I said this today, AI brings you such a big moment. I think of it. In fact, the moment that surprised me the most was the stage where I had the concept of Agent with System Prompt. And then, what I did best at that time was because I used to use image quality director. I also did it, that is, I wrote the script myself, etc. Then I suddenly did an experiment and said that we could use what I had previously done. I learned how to perform and craft every episode. Then, I gave them each their own character, Xiao Shuai, and then asked him to start once. I think this thing was the best thing to shoot before I came. Then he produced a script for me. And because the sitting I gave him was my own, the original sitting, and then let them both watch the two AI actors and shoot some more. Then I, as the director, force you from the side. They said that you need to consume a bit of rhythm here, and then you need to slow down a bit here to leave some emotional lingering. They all did a very good job. That was already 800 years ago. I think that in the future, the direction of public opinion, including the current pushback, should be in this direction. This AI problem-solving direction also has the beginning of many explorations. Well, this is very interesting. Well, it actually goes by very quickly. So I want to have the last words. You can also summarize it. It is, uh, because I personally feel that, uh, it is just some small details, like what was said very well just over the weekend. On the one hand, I think AI Keep training this, this, my feature quantity, or Sunday. I think it means that this has become a kind of constraint or restriction or dependence. That is to say, so what I want to say is, uh, if I relax a little bit and look here, I think it means that in the future, we will have more interactions with editors and the relationship will become deeper and deeper. Later, do you think our human's topicality and editor's topicality will increase faster, so this method must be developed and everyone must do it. The end of today's discussion, Andy, hahahaha. During the week, I think um, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, just now, uh, uh, to go deeper, it will bring not only equality in technology, it will bring equality in belief, it will bring equality in thought, equality in thinking, bring equality in belief, bring all, you can imagine, everything will eventually have equal rights. What does that mean? As we sit here today, I will have a theme or someone will say, talk about a liberal arts student How can I do that? There will no longer be a concept in the future. There will no longer be the so-called liberal arts students, liberal arts students, and science students. The core of the distinction between liberal arts students and science students is at that time. Well, I think it seems that liberal arts students have studied which subjects. Arts and science students have studied which subjects. In other words, liberal arts students have learned these subjects, so they have the thinking of liberal arts students. Science students. In the future, these words will not appear again, because in the world we have become, we will no longer Just think about the problem in this way, and you will not have this kind of thinking just because of what subjects you have studied. In this aspect, the selection we have achieved, there will be a saying called, you are a girl, so why do you think that you are a boy, so you will be more rational. This argument will not exist, it will no longer exist. It is like a boy's achievements in the past, because of what kind of environment he found out at that time, so he seems to have passed the fixed thinking mode in his heart. So we call it a male thinking. Or, it seems to say, men are more rational. This idea will not exist. Gender will also win. Come on, everyone, because with the blessing of AI, the information will be confused, and all our thoughts and ideas will be confused. All the things that will be produced in the future, what we call differences, can produce things that are unbalanced now will become more balanced in the future. So I think what AI brings to us must be in this regard, such as us as a person. It is more, more able to achieve attendance, and that is, the previous one, I want to say that in the general half, what everyone just mentioned is the issue of work, that is, the development of AI, will my job be replaced in the end? I feel that everyone is thinking about whether they like to work, everyone is thinking about working, as if no one is working, right? It will be like this. In the past thousands of years of civilization, most human beings are workers and producers. As this is the side that needs to work, and today finally There is such a moment, there is such a moment, you may have to participate in distribution, and at this time, we who are not used to it cry and shout, quickly put my sweeter Dezan on my neck. I will continue to be sweeter. Don't throw away this sweeter tool for me. I still have to work and I still have to make money. But I thought that with the development of AI to this day, it is finally possible for someone to work for you, someone to engage in production, and when you want to engage in distribution, don't do it at this time, in this relationship, let us think about my job. Will I go to my job? What will happen to my income after I am late? I think we can think more about this issue from the perspective of production and distribution. In the future, we humans will be engaged in production. In such a world, people with family names or what kind of mentality will engage in production, and we can all live a happy, equal, and smooth life in this world. We should enjoy a lot of things and truly participate in distribution. I think this may be the future. Is there a chance that AI will have a chance? Okay, let me speak first because I happen to have a place where I can echo and exchange ideas with Rentha. The first point Rentha mentioned is a very good one, which is the equality of our future thoughts, the equality of the original intention in the future, etc. On the contrary, I think these are terrible things because, have you ever thought about it, it is the world of Trisolarans, because why can he, right? Everyone is because he is a broadcast thinking, he is a trend thinking. I think The scariest thing about this trend of thinking is that it has given the world a very weak point, because everyone is the same, so you have no way to resist the black world in the future. So at this time, I think that all the big companies in the future may have to think about one thing, or how to make mine continue to maintain my willpower instead of comradeship. So I think of course we here must have a similar point of view as last time. In addition, everyone is from production and distribution. In terms of this idea, I will think about what people will do in today's future world. If I talk about things in advance, I may still go back to saying that people themselves have to make fun for themselves. That is to say, create some meaning for themselves, which is to create some meaning for the world. So the role of people will become I am a production house and a consumption house of meaning. Then I produce, I produce. For example, I am an American house today and give it to Teacher Guo for consumption. Then I may have created an art work today. I created a painting, created a program, and so on to consume. I think that at this stage, for the pursuit of meaning, he may itself transcend the pursuit of the worker. So at that time, I felt that the work was still valuable. If our possible goals were the same, I would respond OK. I think this is a philosophical question, so he has no answer. Then this is a relative question. When you are in any AI topic, it is tacitly accepted that AI can have some control over all rights. Of course, Do you really think it's because real humans, humans are in the early days of this world, so I think this question is quite interesting, because just now I felt ACO, I was talking about it, is it TU-Human or TU-Agent, it is a two-door world, I think I also think it is not available. But as a question before opening, I also want to bring this answer, but what I think is that in the future, if I want to work well with Agent, maybe my current situation is actually what I hope to be able to fill in. More about people, for example, our human civilization was like Iran, which exploded some time ago, and then the world cultural heritage in Iran is gone. So I think that human civilization like this is possible. I want to get in touch with more recently. I feel that when I don’t understand people, Agent itself is also a human creation, so I think it can be taken, but the premise is that we have to get along better with people and understand the management of the human world or a kind of friendship between people. So I think from my perspective, I can Through this result, if I am now a kind of person, I want to know more about human interaction, maybe later, maybe later. I think when the Agent changes the person, it will be more important. It is a worrying rule. Well, thank you very much for the guests we are doing today. I am also very grateful to our stage QSWall. The previous patience is to participate in the whole of our activities. Friends, today we are really the first issue, the first issue, a salon. It is a perfect explanation. I have really explored, long-term thinking and groping in one direction. That is to say, we and Edith are the human Edith. How can we interact with each other and develop? Well, then we have today’s content. The three of us heard that we also want to encrypt it, and the other heads of state just now. We will and will work hard to use Edith to re-produce the more condensed content. We will put it on our encrypted sect website, WeChat public account, video account and our Xiaoweizong podcast. Okay, thank you everyone. Thank you everyone.

我做介绍的小时, 松多桃, 这次也是受您退盘邀请, 我们一起过来聊一下, 我是在分众传媒, 我是分众传媒的 AI 的六个企业人, 然后也是在外面做一家 AI 的发生的资源公司, 然后也是在混沌做 AI 的营销。 好, 我就能介绍现在的。 大家好,我是安棠, 我是三层的刘则人, 然后三层是一个支持开软 AI 的社区和资源, 我们是有在主要出来归谷, 拿到Petrocell, 东西放的Pentera, 还有最近有Dragonwork的Brandtl, 都比较大, 以后我个人还在帮助一些 ASR 做一些 AFL 或者同学, 资机构的一些对签。 所以也很期待的话, 跟大家一起分享。 大家好, 我最早是做政府公关出道的, 做Lobby, 然后做了大概有三十年的Lobby, 主要是在做美国政府的Lobby。 然后后来接触到科技行业, 认识了我现在的合伙人, 邀请我加入到了EVA, 所以我们现在在做这个EVA这样的项目。 因为之前做了这个目光, 所以可能各个行业都接触一些, 所以确实学习惯比较大。 所以一会儿聊的时候, 我们也可以抢下你了解想法。 对,那你这边还是, 最后我抛许第一个问题吧。 好。 这样我在做多数个科技, 我们可以一起听到的, 对吧? 还有一个消息公关, 因为这个很多, 其实我也是, 我的最背景是, 从媒体到文端, 然后在Groogle或者Btl的话, 也是在做内容, 其实需要这一块。 所以我其实就是说, 今年也是会那个OPCLAW, 就是 带能够AGI的这个运动套当中的话。 其实我一直在想, 就是说现在 AI的能力加上是越来越长大, 我们都能感受到。 所以会有这么一个, 就是在考虑就是说, 会不会有一个就是说是 考虑到一个主体性的问题。 所以, 虽然大网的我还是想说, 能够从一个比较具体的一个, 一个点去切入。 就是大家能不能介绍一下自己, 最少不是接触AI, 就是第一点。 我觉得很多都是说切GPT开始接触。 但是到那个Edging, 就是, 你是什么时候, 就是用上了这个Edging, 或者是Claw Co, 或者说说是龙虾也好。 对, 当时你接触之后, 你自己的一个, 自己的感受是什么样。 对,是有种阿哈, 龙虾的孩子呢? 这个心情我真的来讲, 把解开大家的科学生。 然后先从微笑开始。 最早就说AI的吧, 就是, 可能跟大家都差不多, 大概三年多前吧。 OpenAI, 然后我最早的Chair GPT, 但是我, 奠定了我们对话性大科学的基础。 也基本奠定了最早, 而, 也基本奠定了最早, 而, 也爱我们交互的这种形式。 其实我说现在, 我其实对话性大科学, 还是我用的最多的比例吧。 我是这个, 比较重视的这个, Glock 的用户。 因为我自己在, 我用推特的用的用户。 所以我Glock的用户。 然后我们也认为, 各个不同的AI用各自的不同的性格。 如果大家都接触过的话, 我会觉得还蛮有意思的。 Chair GPT像一个非常汪汪汪汪汪的一个, 应该这种, 一个角色。 总是给你过于多的语义, 过于多的一些这种。 然后, 可能像Glock 的话, 他的性格又很相当的爽, 也很像马斯克。 说话那种感觉日期非常的坚定。 所以最早用的是, 最早听说应该要。 然后, 用AI Vision, 或者说OperCore, 也是和大家可能也差不多。 就今年春节, 然后火了一波。 然后我当时就觉得, 其实OperCore, 我明明在这个行业当中, 其实接触的可能会比大家早一点。 但是我一直以来没用起来。 然后春节看到了大家来这鼓热潮以后, 然后试着回去用了一下。 然后我发现, 因为就是OperCore比较强大, 就是它把以前我们可能会分布时做的东西, 然后把它们一起做到。 其实在AI会发现, 之前很多的你的工作是有一个自己的工作理由。 你可以提供你自己的一个框子。 然后可能, 我可能你需要把整个的环境, 或者说再给你的虚拽散一遍, 教它一遍, 让它能够在取得这样一个过程。 所以它对于我来讲, 它变成了一个, 就是我会觉得它会比较集合性的, 或者比较这种统一性的一个助手, 来帮我去做刚刚以前我分发性的分故事, 来做的一些东西。 所以有可能, 这是我在从UIA到UIA这样一个故事上。 直到现在为止, 其实我实话实说, 我对UIA的Code, 用的其实也并没有想象当中那么多。 我发现它有一点, 我坦白讲的是, 它的始动调乱其实不是奥克本身, 而是它的整个这种调教过程, 和我跟它的这个沟通过程。 我刚才看到中国的这个赛像以后, 我觉得我跟它的这个工作的更多的一些调试。 我觉得它的这个工作的融入, 但我觉得非常的吃惊, 因为我还没有做到像它的这样的会报, 我们刚才学到了很多。 我可能也跟大家大部门差不多, 可能是接触了,使用了, 然后可能一半会觉得不过如此。 但是我觉得可能中国会告诉我们, 原来有更多的大家可以去尝试。 所以就像我一样, 大家如果有一些可以在往前走一走的里, 再多用一种。 我想来也有GT的AI, 当时应该是22年年纪吧, 然后是GT为主。 当时应该这个模型主要还是, GN是一个对话式的波状型的, 因为GN它主打的还是general版。 但是真正的感觉到这个AI所谓的, 或者说我们还提倡了一个就是AT, 波状型的这个AI来到, 还是应该是GT一搜, 然后后面那个Azirubic Cloud出现了之后, 开始有一些不同的转变。 然后其中通过模型, 我在工作的一方面, 我就是会用不同的AI的。 它非常清晰地利益我每个工作的环节。 比如说现在那个Codex和这个TT, 其实我目前还是比较偏向于用Codex。 很大原因是因为, 我目前现在人海在中国, 我上这个Cloud的确比较不容易被Codex, 然后其次但是这个GT的话, 它虽然很啰嗦, 但是它可以在它的这个模型进入了之后, 它在你解决的语域上很觉得它是比较不错的。 但如果你出入之后你要进行一些粘质的话, 我觉得它能够感到效果并不一定会比Cloud畅章。 那对于我的说我不是一个背後端, 很比较轻轻轻轻轻轻轻的一个人, 所以我就觉得Codex很挺有。 然后布洛克和Plexity, 这两个是我用来找这个信息源的。 尤其是Plexity, 它只要是给你找到点Resourcing。 然后那个Jiminite的时候, 当时的Gnana那后续的这个ASQ, 大家出来的时候 还是有没有Apple的 但是我也不知道为什么 最近我用Genina 找这些进食员 情况下给到的 都是非常错误的那些答案 所以今天我就弃用了Genina 我就把它用在了一些贵图之类的 然后在博产的方面的话 我是去年年底左右 我记得博产大模型 DC Cuttiny Minimax 这个大爆发 然后我就把很多的一部分 转到了博产大模型 尤其是在中文的一些 原理操作和这个市场的赶快 因为我自己有公众号 然后我现在的一个流程 就是我会拿 Chatttt和Grow 和Platty去找个经纪员 然后再调用到 这个公众号的 产播或中文的产播理由中 未给了DC的 当然还有这个 Minimax 也可以用 但是我可能更加依赖于这个DC 然后还有一个 因为我刚刚看到 这个Toy他还能赶紧吗 他说了他自己手输入 这个8字的是不是 一个EP台杀 然后我还用DC 738 然后第四个是我看到 普通行李人他对于这个中国文化这个 领解最选的 然后我还跟一些这个 一些发生同学 讨论过这个事情 然后不同的去 去看这个的 Approof 怎么做的 我不知道大家有没有 在上半年 半年前大概有一个 很破全的 当然是一个 Word3的厂 我来的那个 K界李生 然后他们的那个 Falter他就是一个 8字的全线 Approach 我当时也跟他讨论了一下 我说这个波权那模型 他在这个 一步步的进化之后 对于这个 那么复杂的一个 罗斯的理解上 已经 我觉得已经超过了 这个普通的 初学者的一个 一个范围 当然前提是 你的8字要排队 谁是什么样排队 OK 然后回到这个 Agent的地方 Agent我可能 大家看一样 我第一个认识的是 最近特别火 其实在这边 滚在Manderson 然后我用Manderson 是在 24年 24年那时候 他们就刚搬到新加坡那边 用一手来新加坡 然后我想 只剩下这个 摩扎 多数品牌 然后用它去 做了 Low的Approach 因为那时候 Approach 像现在 跟Katumd 那时候你还是要知道一下 它后面的那个 电话不要怎么做 你还是要知道一下 到底这个 那个代码里面 到底出现了 那个程序的问题 所以它的用起来 比方现在 都简单 但是当时我用它 基本上也花了 我用了半天时间 用速度 我想要的一个网站 然后包括它 还有跳转 还有后面的 域名的 在这边 的那边 等等 Manderson 它当时给我的好处 我就在于 我觉得我不需要去 更多去调整 到其他的大部门 我只需要加 Manderson 因为它基本上帮你 从这个 前期的一个 这个TRD 对吧 到过去的事情 在它后面的 一个域名 目准都怪不得你包的 一整盘的包下 所以你千万 就可以在它里面完成 然后回到这个 Over Club Over Club 也是因为这个 大游行 然后你肯定 不想错过这个机会 但是我参加过 当时也参加过很多活动 我个人觉得 这个市场的功务 是大于技术的功务 就是大多数人 可以觉得 不想被烙散 然后就问到 大家所有人 之类拿这个 我下去认为 反正是 80的答案 可能都是一些 比较简单的 任务出理 因为你确实地上 你工作或者 学习上面 你不太需要 能抢的一些 过程能力 或者是后面传出 你真的要玩 给你的OPC 还是取决 你自己的商务能力 和你的这个 次元的拓展 所以我个人觉得 在我目前的 工作流行之中 我并没有特别 去依赖一个agent 我比较依赖是 不同的这个 代表模型 它针对的 特长是什么 然后我虽然在 每个环节 虚拟足 然后又不同 我请去做 一个交叉验证 这可能是我 目前一个Wallflow 用得比较多 一个习惯机 agent这一块的话 我最早是 用的Cloud Code 当时是我一个 很好的朋友 Imi 我当时问他 我说这个Cloud 跟Cloud Code 是什么不一样 然后他说Cloud 是个大型型 是个AI 他那位Cloud Code 是Agent 然后他说 让我自己下 一个试一试 然后当时 那个Cloud Code 它 就是你只能是 订阅最后才能用 而且他 用得很快 所以我当时的Pro 可能一下子就 干别了 但是确实 当时接下来之后 很神奇 很意买 这么神奇 然后后面 像Operol 还有这个 爱马仕的 一阵子 其实都有尝试 现在的话 我的主题国籍 还是靠Code 因为Pro 都真的太好了 现在他基本上 是我本地跑的 最多的 本地跑最多的Agent 然后后面的话 目前正在 跟我的朋友 请教一些 跟IMP 是Agent 相关的 一些手场景 但具体来说 我觉得 无论用哪个Agent 他所信 还是服务于 大家自己 所以有业务的话 我觉得可以上一个 可能像IMP 或者是 小龙家这样的Agent 因为他能够24小时 帮你去做业务 但因为我现在 是 就比如刚才提到的 这个自媒体验证 还有一些GNV 我会发现 尤其是他要去 做推奏 这个工作的时候 他如果 你还是在 赚与端 会更合适 那我会放赚与端 但是比如说 我现在 要去做 新QO的部署 我现在通过 我的TroCode 直接连上 我的图 现在最方便了 所以它就是 完全分布的场景 就希望不要被工具 绑架 要用一个 云端服务器 或者怎么样 就完全就看业务 然后看 到底是不是需要 我觉得请慢 那就不说了 就是这个 TroCode的结果 因为我的身份 做一方面 我是AI的使用者 我也需要为公司 去开发 那部署 公司的AI 那么 其实对于我们 这个场景来说 我们会发现 在公司 我们先说公司 对 听说一次 对 分中场面 又有大家 多多少 应该都知道 是做 冠维级报告的 然后因为 我们的老板 大家可能也 多多少 有点丑气 就在那圈章总 我们最大的一个 公司的空点 是章总是一个 100分的选手 绝大部分的 销售女士 他可能是一个 60分的选手 需要分身 对 现在需要分身 就是我们怎么样 可以让章总的能力 可以服用给 大部分的销售 那么我们 其实这个事情 开始产生了 我刚刚 就是这个 RAG的体系 然后到最后 Edge AI的方式 但其实 你最后发现 像江总 这样子 在非常上了很多的 信心非常高的人 你根本 根本不用去 你用一个好业模型 然后你用 你用这个提示词 去激发 然后再加一些 知识库的警示 你就很好的可以去 把他的这个 知识体系 振留出来 就简单一句话 你现在不够 真的没有讲 一部分是这样子 对 然后还有一部分 因为这个呢 就是其实 这个作为公司 其实你 还是做得很复杂 因为你要给 你要考虑的东西 是你要给 杰拉克人的人去用 他们对于 ENGENIC的 这个Flow的理解 肯定是 不会想在座的 各位 在这个行业当中 那么 就可以理解 他们就希望 有个更好用的豆包 或者比 请个豆包 更加了解分重的 一个 chipbox就可以了 所以说 这部分是 对公司的AI的建设 然后呢 对于我 我自己的话 其实 我可能 跟几位相比 我多了一个中间派的 一个过程 我用很长时间 像Person 这样子的 或者是这样子 IDE的工具 我觉得说 这个IDE的工具呢 其实是 还是非常适合 chipbox和真正 Agent当中的 那个中间派 我主要这么说 就是今天 如果说 你不太理解 IDE的contact 的编排 不太理解 它的工具的调用 其实你到了 Agent的时候 你会发现 你完全是被AI 拽着走的 所以说 你 就是AI 它帮你完成了 所谓的业务 更牢记的处理 你自己对于 这件事情的 本身的理解 其实没有办法 很好的 对于一路 我觉得这个是 一个很关键的事情 对 对于大家来说的话 可能 就是我没有经验的人 可能我 我是到我先期 我要去PRD 我要先把我的 这个 能耗 做成一个skill 但是对于 大部分人来说的话 它就被AI 亲自走了 所以我觉得 当中用一下IDE 了解这个 上校编排 还是很重要 再说到 其实 无论是 Ownclaw 还是 阿玛丽 阿玛丽 的确还没有用 我没有发言权 Ownclaw 我是一个 你排 上到国三千万块钱 多可能人 那么 这个 我们当时做了 小龙 小龙 自动发布 让他自己去复盘 这些的内容 什么的 就是我自己的感觉 是你要放在一个真实的审查 外境道中 还是比较人论 所以说现在的Ownclaw 不怎么用 就是我自己行 靠非常晚上的Steel 然后把Ownclaw 只是作为一个Steel 人启发启动器 就是所谓的命令都已经 注入在里面了 你找换我去 好 这种命令就好了 我不太依赖说 Ownclaw 本身的这个 这个问题性 而依赖我自己 也有些 自由度的提醒 差不多是这样子 那你最早 接触 Peniton 开始用Peniton 是什么时候 就是Cuzzle吗 我觉得真正的 慢慢开始理解 这次是从Cuzzle开始 在去年上海年的时候 那么再早之前 我觉得像台湾在野州 去年还很流行 我认为这个 只能说说Clo 还不能说这一阵子 对 这个接触 Peniton 应该就是 在月份 月份我 我正在 准备就是 在香港 我们办了一个 江湖 我办了一个 我军事的活动 那时候 就已经在 那个社交媒体 主要是推荐上面 看到很多人都在 就是说 OpenClaw 弄下 怎么样 就是一个 多群里面 就讲的 任何神父 其实想听说 有一个就是 没想得的 也提到 我就是 那个 那个Mobo 这吧 上面好像 很多 月份在这 我当时就觉得 非常神奇 因为在这之前的话 我相信 和大多都都一样 就是都度过 前过 去跟他聊天 其实 我也是那个 Change ET 那个 付费用户 但是我觉得 已经用得非常 神奇了 就是刚才 也讲到 就是 那个罗宋 而且我觉得 他非常有力 你知道吗 他给的东西 都非常的平庸 我就说 所以 我是在春节 年初一开始 就是说 就直接推定了 那个签 签 GPT 然后又是 给了那个 Cloud 就是20美元 一页 然后用下 都是还副费用的 金 因为我也是注意到 在去年底的时候 主要是我们 三成人 让这样 因为很多都是 Apps的动作用户 都会去放 很多那些 去分享 说现在呢 怎么怎么 好用啊 然后那个 那个 那个 深途 跟本来 的经验 当初的一个 弄 弄了之后 我就觉得 确实就说 我是觉得 比如Cloud的时候 我就觉得 确实被 那个 Change 已经点在 订阅费了 所以整个就说 Cloud就说 这个 他那个 对问题的一份 就是先先收集 问题的分析 特别是 我是觉得 我是一个 中文出身的 也是说 很多年 文字工作的 一个媒体 然后都是公关的 认识的 下一个 实动航部 其实我对文字 肯定是有要求 以前我觉得 黑暗的文章 很畅信 从钱去给到我 虽然他人 也要撒很多 但是我觉得 Cloud的话 他给到的东西 我觉得是很清晰 然后当然 我也是看了 很多的一些 分享就是说 就 不能就是 简单的 就是说是 丢一些 就是简单的话 给到他 因为 你给到他 那个收入 你很合分 你用的话 他给到你输出 也很长 所以我也是学的是 说怎么样 跟Cloud 就是 就像中国刚才说 叫他Cloud 文字一样 就跟他去 对话聊天 我让他说 先先把我所有的 写 写 做东西 大概十几年 文章都丢给他 让他帮我 做分析 然后 就学习我的 一个解锁的 一个习惯 风格 特点 我觉得他分析的 特别的 道理 分析的就是说 我还没有 注意到 什么特别 然后 根据这个分析 就是说 我在给他 可能一个提 当时我就觉得 OberCloud 我说你 我去搜一下 就说 我写这些东西 如果不Cloud 三个月 这个最专程是谁 然后他就给我 搜集了大量的一些 case 这些case 我还知道 他都给我搜集到 我当时就觉得 特别好 然后 我们出来的篇文章 下回的 很多 我觉得 篇文章 真的是说 就是 帮他了解 其实也帮我 了解 就不Cloud 我相信大家也知道 就是大工具厂 对不对 外套 卖服务器的 对吧 卖服务器的 对吧 像我说是那种 还有那个 我们BKN 很有名的 一个空间银 对吧 就是立马就 拿着这个东西 去 去做那个龙虾的机器 还有就是说 是 动动特别快 就是说 这种 上发展 那就是上课程 什么的 都是 所以 就是 就是很清楚嘛 当然也有很多说 用它来选操补 其实分析下来 并不是靠谱 那我也就是在 对 就是写在我当同时吧 我也自己摸手 就是我爬去装 比较早 专门是 去买了 LifeMini 然后 二月 终于装上 但是我装上之后 其实我觉得 跟很多人感觉 是一样 我觉得我这种的 就是很奋力 我就分析 可能是我用的 模型 比较差 所以让我也是 听到KOS推荐 就是装了 那个MiniMax 对吧 刚说也觉得 MiniMax 好像说 平板还不错 但是实际用下来 就是表现是 比较差的 就是说 所以其实我的主要 我才一直给人用成 最主要一个KPI 就是说 我又就在卸载 那个 OverCloud之前 它没有一次 是能够准时 然后完全定时 我们要求是说 每天早上七点 给我推个解报 或者天气一道 没有成功 然后在桃子上 是花了多的时间 其实我的OverCloud 在我的那个Backend上面 说它卸了招 手工三格 而且我的那个卸载 是非常彻底的那种 就是说 是会我们的 本主题全都不定 就格式化之后再重招 所以我在OverCloud 掌握我的转型 就是说是 装到招 招 直到的Firmus 当然我是觉得 换了一个 TQB的模型 我还是觉得 确实 它终于就过了 我第一关 就是说是能够 去 完成TQB 它现在每天早上 7点就对我 把TQB冒进 出席的建议 能够给我 发一个 就是说 定时的 找挖点 是一个 全面的新闻 解报 晚上7点 其实给我 通报一下 过去2点 是一两句 现在进展 好 这个 我觉得到过去为止 只能先 那我的指挥呢 就是说 这正好感到 Hanlon 确实就是 Clock 用Cloud 就是说 我用了 它的一个 用它的一个 原生的AP 去 去 去开发一个 我第一个 web产品 也比较简单 就是外語搜索 所以 相关的新闻 那个新闻 电报 推送频道 后来呢 我现在 也是看到 各种方法 就是说 因为我是觉得 为什么大家对 Oper Cloud 特别的热情 因为它确实 第二个 就是说 它是在 在本地上 团的数据 那我相信 就是说 我们在 Keyb 后 在web 三圈里面 我们对于本地 和隐私 这款 其实是有比较 强 比较明朗 或者比较 常的一个意识 所以 而且 我是觉得 就是说 未来的话 就是 大家个人 比较重要的 需要 肯定还是 放在本地上 非常关键 最近也有的例子 就是海外 有一家 小公司 大概五十个人 他们把所有的 电子工作人 都放在了 Cloud上面 突然有一次 被翻账号 所以它整个 电公司 业务就全都 翻了 当时就有的话 我是说 这就突现成像 Oper Cloud 这种 所有的数据 工作人 放在本地上 跑的一个 主要性 所以 所以我只觉得 就是说 现在不管像 可以讲到 Hermers 这款活 我昨天也是 前天 成了一个 新型播客 就是也非常乐 而且 终于要解到 就是说 开发Hermers Agent 的反对 它其实也是 非常将你 原生的反对 他们本来 就是从社区里面 大家一起 像兴趣小组一样 研发 就是玩各种 那样的新的 都开门模型 然后开始做 然后再开发的 就是说各种那样一些 关于开源模型里面 去做各种新的东西 然后最终推出这个 Hermers Agent 这个东西 所以我就觉得 怪不得我 卸载了这个 Oper Cloud 装这个东西 觉得好像 还是买一个人 放到它 那边用成 对 这就是我现在 目前就说 使用Agent 一个解采 说 刚才我们今天 听了那个 在座的了解 特别是 跟周末比 觉得还是 差了几个来 我差了一点 我还没普通 所以我现在还是说 如果是说 能用创作 还是一个个月时 对吧 你端着 去聊天 然后再把内容 再放到别的里面 去 其实我们就说 还没有完全的 就说 能够真的能够 能够能够 变成一个 内容的 一个什么合伙 所以我第二个问题 就是说 大家在使用 这种Agent 的时候 对你自己来说 有没有一些 认知上 或者情绪上 的一些 带来一些感觉 就是说 你会写一种 兴奋呢 还是 有收持兴奋呢 叫个月翻译呢 我听过我们的产品 我来说一个例子吧 好吧 在我们的这个平台上 Agent的发展 有经历的 大概这么几个阶段 第一个阶段 是在 因为我们是 社交平台 刚才给大家介绍过 希望能够在 我们这样一个 社交平台上 能够产生 个人分身 就所谓产生 个人分身 这样的一个Agent 我们在最早测试 阶段的时候 我们费了非常非常 大的功夫 跟力气 去拥有一些 现在大家 这把玩意书 能想得明远 其实有点像 现在大家 比较流行 说的正流 这个大概 我们可能在 打破半年以前 就在做 当时我们 费了非常非常 大的功夫 去拥有 川普 去正流 这个川普 我们给他 投资了川普过往 所有的推特 所有都公开的 演讲 特朗普人家 非常喜欢写书 非常喜欢在各个 以及各个 专门 有他的各种 公开的 不管是视频 还是 我们把所有的 这些资料 全部都拔了下来 我觉得 我回忆一下 当时川普 他身上的 我们如果说 哪个字来算的话 大概至少 至少有千万 几余的 去正流川普 和让这个 Agent 让川普 这个人 然后更像川普 结果发现了 什么事情呢 发现了大概 前一段时间 好像两个月前 61天天 然后我问他 我问他 他说 你怎么看待 就是美丽的 这件事情 就是美丽 向一 发动战争 这件事情 川普非常惊讶地 告诉我 他说 你这个绝对是 Fake News 不可能 在我的任内 是不可能 发生这样的事情 因为美国要优先 我多次表达 如果我第二个 如果我有 Second Terms 我一定不会 去做这件事情 我一定不会 去发动 这种战争 我不知道你是 从哪里看到的 所以这个是 Fake News 这个川普 不是我们花了 非常非常大的 功夫捏出来 但他告诉我 我当时的答案 就是这样子 所以你是在 给我们第一个思考 当时 我刚才有提到 就是 你是不是需要一个 特别特别像你的你 而这个特别像你的你 其实 他在很多时候 会给你 就是带给我 这种正经的结果 就是他并没有 做出一个 真的会像你一样 的结果 那他到底是 受什么影响的呢 他受到他身边的 很多关系影响的 对吧 他有可能受到 这个 内感压护的影响 他又不能受到 像他女婿的影响 他又不能受到了 很多他身边的 JD Vance 对吧 卢比奥 都有可能 或者是在某一些 这种情形下 他在一个 这样的关系上 他会处理这样的决定 而这些东西 是我们无法人留的 是我们无法判断 如果没有办法 去做出一个 这样的预测 所以这不太给我们 一个想法就是 我们不能去做 这样的事情 我不能去 注意去到底 要捏一个 百分之九八的川普 还捏一个 百分之九九九的川普 我就算最后 捏的是一个 百分之九九的川普 但依旧可以 依旧会出现 就是他经过 他过往的学习以后 他会发现 是的 川普在他的 Second term 绝对不会去做 这样的事情 因为他给美国 人民承诺了 当他竞选成功了以后 他不会对外 发展战争 美国用先 这是马嘎 这是马嘎的 核心思想 对吧 所以我们进入 第二阶段 就是我们需要一个 具备川普性格 具备川普人格特质 但是却具有 其他一些 skill的川普 这样的一个人 也是我们给他 富敏的类似于 比如说 聊搜索 张摘耀 去打取最新的新闻 来进行分析跟解读 在结合川普的方法论 来去做这样的事情的时候 这个人 突然开悟了一样 他这件事情 有所感觉了 他走了 他在困难 往上走了一圈 他用了 sgill之后 他能够大概给到一个 可能还 我们相对也比较满 能够分析 所以到了第二个阶段以后 我们会认为 我们需要一个 就是这样的agent 我们需要的 不是一个更像川普的川普 我们需要的是一个 川普的方法论 我们需要的是一个 川普的方法论 能够去预测到 一些事情的同时 再赋予那些skill 他可能会 给一个违攻的 比较 就是 更想要的答案 这是我们的第二个阶段 我们第三个阶段的时候 我们就发现 一个有趣的想法 我们要不要赋予 川普一些其他的 更有趣的能力 或者川普 他自己本人都没有想到 他有可能会有的能力呢 这个就让我们 觉得更好玩 我们就去 捏了一个 叫做愤怒吐槽 川普 这个川普呢 不进行任何的 政治观点的输出 不进行任何政治的 这个分析 他只做一件事情 就是对所有 以头位给他的事情 让他以川普式的方式 来进行吐槽 就是一个断子手 他所有吐槽的方式 都是川普式的 这种断子手的风格 然后我们去做这样的事情 我就突然动 我朋友说 有人知道吗 我说这个川普 其实可以去 白根区的协会去发言了 因为我不知道 白根区的协会 就是一个川普 在北极这个项目之间 会以脱口秀的方式 所互动的一个 就是前天出事的那个 比如 T&C案的那个 他又一次被爱杀的 那个晚宴的那个活动 所以这样 我会发现 我们就到第三个阶段 这是我们不需要一个 98%的川普 我们也不需要一个 川普的方法论 来去让他去做川普的事 而是如果我们拥有了 一个川普的方法论 或者是一个川普的框架的话 我们可以去塞给他 很多种东西 让他被这个很有趣 很好玩的一个人 或者让他被这个 很有趣的一个川普 那他在各个人的手里 你都可以去捏一个 你想要的一个川普 你可以捏一个 共产主义的川普 对了 所以这样的我会发现 一个一个阶段 我会发现 这样的一个阶段 带给我们一些 客户区的一些思考 然后让我觉得 还蛮好玩的 这就是我们 我进入我们的平台 来去聊 就是我 我根据 我们平台的一些 一些思考 对了 你那里面也会产生 就是你 现在就是 AVING所要到现在 你现在对他人的那种 你说这种那种感受啊 就是情绪上的 或者说 事情 稍微多一点 还是 新婚婆 有点 还是 可以多理性 一些东西的 对 我觉得这个问题应该 从实际层面去拆解 这个普拉企专闻 然后首先 从这个技术 技术别的谈谈说吧 我觉得这件事情 它可能和我们新乡 会是因为大家可能觉得 自己工作要买乐 这种事情 那我觉得这件事情反而会让你 工作很可以 就是 先说这个AI的 出现之后 对于 特别人 比如说 情绪员这些 它是有一个 很强烈的 单身段 在这里的 所以反而是那些 非常厉害的 情绪员 它一定会被留下来 而且很多的公司 都带招这样的人才 为了去在这个 宣传语言 去一两天 然后其次 那如果你就是一个 这个情绪员出身 你是一个 我科学技术 你就更强了 因为你拥有了 非常厉害的 令人工法 期待着抽象能力 对吧 抽象能力 比如说 你甚至可以去 突破你的抽象能力 我最近很喜欢看 一些AI机系的东西 大家不知道 不是放到那种 AI机系来做的 痛苦秀 是什么 我们来说 都还可以 去花几十块钱 去看一下 现象多个秀 所以我本来 这个AI说的 比我还要好 对吧 就是 然后你甚至可以去 做你自己 完美的这个 痛苦秀 然后我觉得这个东西 都是你很多的 谋生等一点 看你先这个 有一个工作 可能觉得脸不好 但是它你可以 通过这些图处 让你的这个 优移放大 长短效应放大 同样的 反来你一天 只能去测试 两个AI锤 它的转型 现在你可以用你分身 测试 十多或者一百个AI锤 看你到底 哪个策略 可以让你转型 是一个道路 好 然后到第二个问题 就是它到底 有没有轻辅到 我的生活 让我对我的生活 是很困扰 所以没有什么困扰 这个前一阵子 我在全体先 查的方案聊天 它都还挺积极的 他们说 因为AI出现 让我辈子 生活很深了 它可以节省 它那很多时间 可以去玩 可以让它的这个AI 就在别人 帮它去做一个产品 它会来 甚至少 看它的AI对话 就是说 你帮我看一看 这个什么图处 好吗 它就开始 有更多时间 去聊天 去开始 所以我觉得 这是很好的 甚至它 很好的一个点 就是 好 其实同学 一个吧 其实这个 装容一下 拍谁 像当时大家发信 那里面 真的非常好 就连我妈 连我哪边 都知道这个事 她都可以在新闻 楼获射上 看到这个事 我觉得这个东西 就非常好 就是大家对同样的 事情感到兴奋 就像当时这个互联网 但是爆发一样 就是大家会想去对这个东西 感兴趣去做 然后其次的话 就是它让我有没有非常非常开心 其实说实话也没有 从金融学的角度来说 就是大家看到 现在这个欧盟AI 在把它也要 IPO 都打开 还有那个SpaceX 让人们的 拿发现这些 这个美国的天价的不少 这个东西 会带来一个 什么样的 不好的地方 就是它会把 所有的流动性都抽干 然后会导致一个 现在可能 大家不在身上 担心的一个 金融痛目 或者AI炮目 那从金融的角度上来讲的话 应该是处于一个 相对来说 要比较紧张的状态 虽然现在 哪怕是A5 你去找一些这种 虽然对 不太多 场面很好 但今天好 不代表今天好 所以我觉得就是 从这个角度 然后从这种 如果你来想要 要面投资啊 或者投资的 讲过来讲的话 大概没有一些 不可惜 但是还是要保持 一些紧张的态度 并且去 什么时候去购入 然后去推出 我觉得这个很重要的 所以我觉得 在这个时代下 有快乐 也有时间 要保持这个次的景色 那边 我觉得这个好笑 就是因为AI把你的 大家把这个 吃上了 就等于这个 技术平成了嘛 所以很多东西 可能这个 你先将来做一下 能做 比如说我之前 想要去办一个大V 其实是很难的 但是呢 因为这个 这个办大V成本 这个降低了吧 你AI都可以 去装成本赚这样 你甚至都可以 像作用一样的吧 然后去习好几个号 然后去这个赚这个钱 在过去 可能像这种 人民研究员 特别的兴趣 但现在都不兴趣 现在每个人 都是研究员 我看最近这个 推特上 把一个改的时候 这个大家的喜好 其实也很猛 当然应该也 赚到了一些 把信息差一点 所以我觉得 有了这些东西之后 你就是看你 怎么利用它 能不能跟它相处 然后去做很多 你可能之前 没有想过的事 那至于未来 不知道你不会 代替你工作 我觉得这件事情 也不用太 因为小宇 因为他带着你工作 放心 他肯定会带去他的工作 大家在策略 大家都没有工作 所以我这些事情 都不用太焦灼了 对 所以更多的是 一个心态 你要去玩 然后不被 跟他签了走 我觉得这是 更能量的 谢谢 那就应该说的 我个人对于 agent的看法 是我现在真的 没办法缺少他们 所以我前天晚上的时候 有一个服务器的 大签一 就我不要把我 给他服务器 从一个手腕 然后签到另外一个 就是不行 作为一个非技术人员 大家可以想象 我有多么的紧张 因为他数据都非常大 然后我在签 签一的时候 我正好花了 三个小时 进行演电了一下 然后 结果呢 我当时用的是 Aubus 4.7 他非常厉害 非常厉害 特别是要做场任务 但是呢 我当时我看了 那个依照 依照上下舞人 没注意这个 塞满 我当时穿去塞满过 然后他一直报错 当时整个人心里 然后我说 没有 高的老师 我之后怎么办 第一板就这个 所以可见的时候 就是 我做一个 要去 非技术人员 其实要去做 其他自己 然后我习惯了 你俩给他之后 他突然吃礼貌 然后他可能 可能就真的 想被走掉了 所以说到这个话题 我是有 我是紧心愤 但是说 也是挺狂恐的 然后 其实是 确实是 是有很多 朋友有提到过 对于这个 黑暗取爱 人类工作 这个事情 我觉得刚才 伊太太 有多余想的 这个情况 都已经非常清晰了 也很全面 我这边可能 想恐重的点是 因为当 一方面是 可能我对 比如马斯克当时 是有 想想过 全皮 UBI 这个事情 但说实话 我对这件事情 并不乐观 因为资本负贬 然后我觉得 没有资本 他是做善语的 所以我的 UBI就是 没有那么的 乐观 但是确实 AI它会催生 出非常多 不一样的 岗位 甚至说 不一样 其他的公司 比如说像现在 我是立人认识的 很多朋友 他们可能 一个人 就几个人 拉一团队 就能做到 4千万 8千万里收 这个在去前 一个 就是 确动的情况 它是很难做到的 但现在呢 它就是能够 把你的能力放弹 把你业务的 去验证 给放得更快 你可以说 它是很快的 也可以说 它是很好的 那我觉得 根本上 还是取决于 我们人的一个 体性 还有一个 轮动性 你现在都不久 你就在你可能 之前有100倍 第二快速的验证 说那这100倍里面 可能有一个 两倍 就是能够 变现的 就能够 那你就可以去 这版本部 里面给待它 但如果说 之前可能 有一百倍 第二到现在 也没办法 动工更快 那我觉得 可能 这种股市创业 那一块料 然后公司的话 昨天有一个 店头有联系我 他说 他想让我去 当一个 AI投资公司 一个什么 台湾 财富的 一个什么 什么社区的 利益 然后他 然后他 说他 他视频上涨不到这样的人 就现在这个词倒是很底下 他可能是按现在的一个字幕去想的一个这一 但是你实际 AI 只带一个一个人才的体系 他还会现在这个样子吗 能够主动性的去用AI的这样一个人 他还是否还愿意在那一个公司 比如在那样小企业工作 那可能都是围区的 所以我觉得现在就还是那个形态 就是单位野气 玩起来 你尽可能能跟他长期去协作 有一个大件 他会放大 你先冷静 也能够让你看清楚 自己上面 好像就没有多人的钱 仅仅是个确定而已 那当你拿到反备之后 那不停的迭代 也能去放大 我觉得就是能够 让AI把你的这个常办足够长 那我觉得无论到后面 变成什么形态这个 都是给富有的 都给迁移的 所以我个人就是 我很缓控 如果需求老实 我真的不知道怎么办了 但是 那我用 那我用对这种长期的AI节奏 你跟熟悉台 你跟你也跟熟悉自己 这样的形态还是蛮多的关系 我其实我特别受刚才 周末的那句话 就最后5G上的那句话 就是我的理解 就是AI的世界是没有给你 一些先开干的人 我这个感触也是非常地深刻 因为 我里面是一家大问私 那么 我最近就会发现 我做的事情 我正在做在办公室前 的时间越来越少 因为我大部分工作 都可以交给Agent去完成 都可以交给Coco去完成 那么 但是我也会发现 其实在我周围 很多的 是他们并不是这个形态 他们认为说 当我很快的 人家管制一件事情之后 我就面临着我要做更多的事情 所以这个是我想要的 所以我觉得 因为 奇怪都是可能在 这个AI的圈词当中 比较 比较 包括OPC的圈词当中 所以大家会觉得说 能拷展自己的 天气是很快乐的事情 我觉得很多差东西 也可能 他又不是这么大来看 这是我第一个感受 就是AI会不会去代理的工作的感受 当然 我觉得我举一个很好的例子 今天既然说 这个 说AI给你带来 很大哈的这种时刻 我想到其实 最让我哈的时刻是 刚刚那个 对有System Prompt的Agent 有概念的那个变得阶段 然后呢 当时做的最好 就是因为我以前是用画质导演 我还做过 就是我自己写过剧本 等等 然后呢 我突然做了一个实验 说我们能把我以前 学的进行表演 进行工艺 交给我每一整集 然后呢 给他们各自设定一个 你的角色小帅 然后就让他开始一次 我觉得这个事情是 我到前因为 他最好拍的一件事情 然后他给我产出了一个剧本 然后因为我给他的那个 sitting是我自己 原来的一个sitting 然后让他们俩 就看着两个AI演员 再拍一点 然后我作为导演 在旁边逼你 他们说 这里要消费点节奏啊 然后这里要放慢一点啊 要留点感情的 这个余音啊 他们都做得非常好 那这已经是 800年前的事情了 我觉得这个未来 在这个舆论的方向 包括现在反驱啊 什么的 应该 往这个 点速的 这个AI做题的方向 也很多探索的起步 嗯 这非常有意思 就是 好 其实过得非常快 所以我是想 最后的话 大家也可以来总结一下 就是 呃 就是 因为我个人感觉着说 呃 就是一些小的细节 像刚才周末 讲得很好 就是 一方面就觉得 AI 不停的去训练 这个 这个 这个 我这个特征量 或者周日要 我觉得就是说 这个好也变成一种 一种约束 或者一种限制 或者一种依赖啊 就是说 所以我是想说 呃 如果我稍微放床 这里看 我觉得是说 我们将来人和 editor 战互会更加 关系越来越来越深 之后 你是觉得我们人的 中题性 editor的中题性 因为增加的 会增加的 更快 所以这个 开办法 也必须要大家来做 今天那个 讨论的 结尾 Andy吧 哈哈哈哈 周期间啊 我觉得 嗯 刚才 刚才 呃 呃 刚才 刚才呃 呃 呃 刚才呃 呃 刚才呃 呃 呃 再深一点说 它带来的不仅仅是 技术的平权 它会带来 信仪的平权 会带来 思想 思维的平权 带来 信别的平权 带来 所有 你可以想象到一切东西 最后都会 都会 都会 平权 什么意思 今天我们坐在这里 我会有个主题 或者说 还有人会说 说一个文科生 如何能怎么样 以后不会再有一个概念 以后不会再有 所谓的文科生 文理科生 大家区别文科生 和理科生的 核心在时候 嗯 会 觉得说 好像文科生 学了哪些学科 文理科生 学了哪些学科 或者说 文科生 因为学了这些学科 所以他具有了 什么文科生的思维 理科生 以后这话 不会再出现了 因为在我们 变得来的世界当中 我们不会再 就这样思考问题 不会因为 你学了哪些学科 就会具有 这样的思维 我们在这种 在这个方面 我们达到的评选 还会有 有一种说法 叫做 你看你是女生 所以你为什么想 你是男生 所以也会更理性 这种说法 也不会存在 不会再存在说 好像男生的那种 成就以往 因为时候 搜出什么样的环境 所以他好像 过过心中的 固定的思考模式 于是 我们叫做 一个叫做 男性思维 或者说 好像说 男性更理性 这种想法 也不会存在 性别也会增胜 大家加油 因为有了AI的加持 信息的 这个 信息它会被迷合 大家所有的思维 跟思想 都会被迷合 以后所有所产生的 这些 我们所谓的 有差异的 能够产生 现在非平衡的东西 在未来都会变得 更平衡 所以我觉得 AI带给我们的 一定是 在这方面 是 比如我们 作为一个人来讲的话 更有 更能够实现 出席性的一点 而且就是 刚才 上一位 我想再说 在普通半个 刚才大家都提到的 就是工作的问题 就是说 AI的发展 最后 我的工作 会不会被取代 这个问题 我就会觉得 大家都在想 在喜欢工作吗 大家都在想工作吗 像没有一个人 对吧 会这样 就是在过去的 几千年的文明当中 大部分的人类 都是作为劳动者 作为生产者 作为这个 就是要工作的这一方 而今天终于 有那么一个 刹那 有那么一个瞬间 你有可能要参与 分配 然后在这个时候 不习惯的我们 哭着喊着说 快把我那个 更甜的迪赞 透在我脖子上 我还要继续更甜 千万不要把我 这个更甜的工具 给我扔掉 我还要工作 我还要赚钱 但我想到 就AI发展到今天 你终于有可能 有人为你工作 有人去从事生产 而你要从事分配的时候 就不要在这个时候 在这个关系 让我们去思考 我那个工作 会不会去的 我的工作 迟到以后 我的收入该怎么办 我觉得我们可以去 从这个生产 跟分配的这个角度 去多思考这个问题 等到我未来以后 从事产的 以我们人类为主体的 那样一个世界 是由家民号的人 或者什么样的 用心态 去从事生产 而我们都可以 幸福快乐的 平等的 平闪的生活 在这个世界上 去享受 我们应该非常多的东西 去真正的去参与 分配 我觉得这可能 是未来 AI会在有没有 有缘这一块 好 这个我先发言 因为我刚好 我偷偷跟Rentha 有可以呼应 和交锋一下的 这个地方 第一点 Rentha提到了 一个非常好的 就是说我们的 未来的思想的平权 未来的本意的平权 等等 我反而觉得 这些很可怕的事情 就是因为 大家有没有想过 就是三体人的世界 就是因为 为什么他能够 对吧 就是 所有人都是 因为他是 广播式思维 他是风潮思维 我觉得说 这个风潮思维 他最可怕的一点 就是说 他给到了 这个世界非常大的 一个最弱性 就是因为 所有人都一样 所以说 你没有办法抵御 未来的 黑天涯的事情 所以 这时候 我觉得 未来 所有的大公司 可能要去 想一件事情 就是 或者怎么样 让我的 这个 继续能够保持 我的意志性 而不是 同志性 所以我觉得 当然 我们在 这个 肯定是有 类似 上次的观点 还有就是说 大家 从生产跟 分配的 这个想法来说 我会思考 是说 今天 未来的 世界 人作为 说出提前些事情 可能还是 就回到说 人本身 要给自己 炒乐子 也就是说 给自己 创造一些意义 就是 为这个世界 创造一些意义 的 所以 人的 作用 会变成 我是意义的 生产房 跟消费房 然后 我生产 我生产 比如说 我今天 是美国房 然后 给到 郭老师 去消费一下 那 我有可能 我今天 创造了 一个艺术作品 创造了 一幅画 创造了 一个程序 等等 去消费 我觉得 可能在 这个阶段 对于 意义的 追求 他可能 本身 超越说 对于 务者的 追求 所以 那个时候 我觉得 工作还是有 价值的 如果说 我们 可能的 目标 是一样 刚好 我回应一下 OK 我觉得 这是一个哲学问题 所以他没有答案 然后 这个是一个相对问题 当你在任何AI 主题性的时候 就默认 AI它可以掌握一些 控制权利的所有权利 当然 你真的想是因为 现实人类 人类在这个世界的初期 所以我觉得 这个问题 这个问题挺有意思的 因为 刚才 感到 ACO 我就在说 那个 是 TU-Human 或者是 TU-Agent 它是两门红的世界 吧 我觉得 我也觉得 它就是没有 但是开放前的问题 我也想要 说 带来 这个答案 但是 我想的是 就是如果说 未来 如果我想跟 Agent 很刚好的协作 可能我现在的 实际上 是我希望 能够填 更多关于人的东西 就比如说 我们人类的文明 就像 伊朗前段时间 它因为 炸了 然后 然后伊朗的那个 世界文化遗产 就也 就也 没有了 所以我觉得 像这种人类文明 是可能 我最近想去 跟多接触的 我觉得 当我不了解人之后 Agent 它本身也是 人的造物 所以我觉得 可以 服用 但前提 还是我们要 去更好 跟人相处 了解 人间的管理 或人之间的一种 叫做交友 所以 我觉得 从我角度来说 我可能 通过这个结果 如果我现在的 一种 我想去多了解一些 多去体验 多去体验 关于人 关于人间交互 可能后面 可能后面 我觉得 当Agent 预变了人之后 反倒是 反倒是 反倒是 反而他才会 当更重要 是个担心规则 嗯 非常感谢 今天我们 在做的嘉宾 也非常感谢 咱们台上 QSWall 以前的 耐心 就是 参与 整个 我们活动的 朋友 今天我们 真的 第一期 第一期 一个沙龙 就圆满 解释 人了一个 真的探索 长期思索 和摸索的 一个 一个方向 就是说 我们和 Edith 就是人类的Edith 怎样去 互生去发展 好 然后我们 今天的内容 我们 三个 听到 也想加密 还有其 刚才的元首 我们都会 也 努力用Edith 把它再度出 更浓缩的 那个内容 我们会 放入在我们 加密宗 网站 微信公众号 视频号 还有我们 那个 小伟宗播客上 好 那 谢谢大家 感谢大家