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I'm Sensen, I'm Lanbai. Actually, it's just the four of us. Teacher Shi and Teacher Zheng went out to play. What do you mean, Mr. Peng, what did you say? Tell us about the two of them. It's not just one more day. What about the sql evaporation time, right? We also have these news, okay, let's talk about Pokehs4 next week. Pokehs4 is released next week, we will talk about it after it is released. Okay. The first news this week. The first news this week comes from Apple. The troubles of happiness, okay. Apple, McBuckney's free word, is very good. It's called nearly free chips. It's about to run out. Now it needs to replenish its chips. Almost free. Yes, I checked, and it is said to be because of what those chips were originally. The kind that are streamed out from high-grade chips. They are stock chips. Stock chips. Yes, now, now is the problem. This chip is so good, it's used up. Cook is now in his head. I didn't expect that there is this kind of happiness and this kind of happiness. I have to mention that I was so envious of it. Right? This O1 hasn't been sold out yet. Stop talking about it. It's just you guys who live broadcast and expose such things. It's not sold out yet. The product is very good. Sometimes I really admire Apple. That is, they gave NEO an A18 Pro. The A18 should have been one. Because the iPhone17 Pro started selling, the 16 Pro will theoretically not be produced again. The top and bottom are all stocks. In theory, the chips should also be made in advance. Yes, since they are stocks. Let Apple have planned its entire life cycle or expectations, and it may really exceed it. According to my understanding, it may really exceed what it sells. And everyone needs to know that this is the A18 Pro used by NEO. Apple gave it two monitors, one with A19 and one with A19 Pro. This is the amount. In fact, it is not small. Because I am working on the manuscript of XDR, because I also have to check what is the name of XDR? For Apple, even a monitor worth more than 20,000 yuan, paired with an A19 Pro, is a level of luxury that many, many, many manufacturers simply cannot achieve. So since it can be put on a monitor so well, and there are not enough computers in stock, I think it can only be said that the sales are indeed very good, far exceeding everyone's expectations. Hey, the current situation is that such a notebook is not in a prosperous conventional point, but it is an unconventional point. Today's notebook market Now it seems that it can be described as the God of Water. Everyone is dissatisfied. Users are also dissatisfied. Manufacturers are also dissatisfied. Only Apple has bucked the trend and showed its own strength. I can only say that this product seems to be quite worth it. Considering that if you can buy it at a price of less than 4000 or more than 3000, I think it is even more worth it. He should have one box less than this full blood plate, right? He also has one box less, and his phone has one box less. Why should I say that? It stands to reason. Why is this called an almost free chip? It should be that during the production of this full-blood board chip, it was relatively unqualified. This was eliminated. Yes, because even if it is a three-meter production line, even if the level of TSMC is already very high, there will definitely be more in the production process. You can't just throw this away. Throw it away, so let's just make something like this with him as the core. This is a product with the core of work training. Do you want this thing before? Use these chips to pick up 1.7 billion 1.6 billion 1.8 billion or the regular version. But the work training master is different. Once you make a pretty good notebook, it will catch up with today's grade. Yes, it sold out. According to legend, 6 million units are expected to be sold in this grade. It is very large. I thought I could sell it for a year and a half, but I found out that it was sold out in a short while. It was embarrassing at this time. Master Guo Wenliang was also embarrassed. If the shovel continues, the three rice cocos will be shoveled out for you. They are all like that. Pretty shoes. It's super awesome. You have to reduce the six square meters to five. If you continue to sell that expensive one, you may not be able to afford the price, right? If you don't produce it, then the product line may be broken. This consumption opportunity has disappeared. So what do you say about this? Happy Annoyance, Happy Annoyance. Master Guo Wenliang played this. This is still messed up. It is still very different. I gave Teacher Ku one season. You also have one season. There are three seasons, upper, middle and lower. One month later, we will launch MacBook Neo2 equipped with A19. A19 is really physically different. He has to be castrated in USB3.0. A19 does not have 3.0, so I don’t call it Neo Pro. My name is Neo2, so your Neo1 should be renamed Pro? Isn’t it possible to do this? It’s not that Neo1 is no longer sold and is out of stock. Sell Neo2 and then the price of Neo2 will increase. Use A1999 A19Pro. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Just look at this. Uh, why is Master Guanglian using this superb method to spread some of this magical thing to us? Or they can directly reverse the fake watch, right, and give you A19Pro directly? So what, right? That's Gao He. False propaganda. Old users may feel a little uncomfortable. Yes, I think this is basically what Apple has built over the years. What is this called? The chip system, this OS system ecosystem, is a by-product of such an advantage in the end. It is really that he really controls everything how to combine and combine it in the future. If there is anything in the library, you don't have to look at other people's colors. You still need to find Qualcomm. It’s really not necessary to choose any accessories, right? You can build a building block product of whatever product you want to launch. People have developed this advantage over the years, so they don’t need to use it. To be precise, that’s what it is. And we now understand why Apple doesn’t sell it at a low price. You see this is the result when you sell it at a low price. What should you do? You are really envious of Windows. Really, at this price, as long as the price is reduced, consumers will still be like this, right? Apple didn’t say this. I can only say no, I didn’t say it, it’s what you were thinking about, right? Oh, then you tell me this fact. Let’s not talk about it emotionally when the deduction is over. Is your fact like this? Just like a loyal customer, you have come back, right? Really a loyal customer, so I admire, helpless, helpless, helpless and admire. It does have the flavor of stone paint. As soon as Apple gave it, it collapsed, right? I remember, Cook was an executive in 2009, that is called management. Asked Cook how would you manage Apple if Steve Jobs was gone? Then he said his exact words are that we believe that we need to say no to thousands of projects so that we can really focus on a few truly meaningful projects. How meaningful is this digestion process? For supply chain masters, they have different definitions for us. Yes, there is no saying that making meaningless products is just your own wishful thinking. The meaning you think is not the meaning of others. Yes, it is true. When I was in junior high school when I was in junior high school, I didn’t know. iPhone6 is the best-selling generation. It is so far unrivaled. You even scolded me. I said it was not as good as the second-hand Air. It was not as good as the second-hand Pro. It turned out to be the best seller. It was sold out and sold out in two months. You began to gradually integrate into iPhone technology. You are quite lucky. When the iPhone My real money lesson is that you should rely on the iPhone I wiped out all the memory in the world. Then Samsung in the past month has increased to the profit of the past year. I tell the truth to these companies. Sansan Gosa, Samsung Kelis and the United States can earn as much as last year or the year before last in any month. No one earns less. No one can say anything. He has sold things to whom behind his back. Who has paid a high price. He knows everything in his heart. No one can tell anyone. Don’t laugh. That sentence is so dark. If you have a deposit order, you have to increase the price. This is the industry, right? Okay, let’s talk about the next news. Okay, let’s talk about Apple computers. This is actually one. This can be considered employment chain technology. I’m not jumping. This is because Apple has recently allowed this external, what is it called, external graphics card AMD and Nvidia graphics card to run this LM. But this Apple official clearly said, hey, games are not allowed. It is not Apple’s official software. I just talked about games. This is very special. I have paid attention to it a long time ago. You may not have heard of the organization that first released this. But I think technology enthusiasts of a certain age must know this person. He is called Wonder Boy. I don’t know if you all know that this was when the iPhone could only use ATT and only one operator. He was the first to jailbreak. Then unlocking it meant that the iPhone could use SIM cards from other carriers. The term jailbreak basically came from him. And the second one is also one of the major contributors to the cracking of the Sony PS3. This child cannot be called a child. Big brother. Yes, big brother. I should call him big brother. Anyway, this is a very powerful programmer, programmer, and does Mr. Jiang know what jailbreak is? I escaped from jail, oh, okay, then it’s fine. Then he basically became a genius boy in the world. Then I remember he was sued by Sony in the end. He also paid Sony a little money because he cracked Sony after all. Then he founded a company similar to self-driving cars, right, right, and then started a security company. Anyway, he has also been to Google, Facebook, and Apple. Anyway, he is also a very powerful person. He has a lot of experience in the industry, and what he is doing now is an AI project, and what he is doing is called Grid Worker. This thing is his latest result. Simply put, it allows Apple to connect a traditional GPU externally. But first of all, this thing is clear. Their official website says they don't care game. They can't solve the problem of the game. Is this the translation of don't care? It means they can't take care of it. Can't they take care of it? Yes, because of this thing, he can currently use external graphics cards for Apple devices. But this thing is a concept of AI accelerator for them and Apple. It is not a GPU, so this thing can only handle some large language models of AI. And large language models cannot be processed by any big language model. He must use his set of frameworks, which is similar to the PiTouch set. He wrote one himself. Then I also checked the efficiency of this thing. Because Apple has zero support for this thing, so he wrote a set of it himself. He wrote as much as he wanted. Just like you can't say driver, it is a thing that directly calls the GPU hardware, so its efficiency is very high. But these models must go through a process similar to conversion. That is, you download a ready-made model and it cannot be used. You have to convert it to a model that he knows, but it is said that the workload is not big. And currently, looking at the efficiency, it can basically achieve about 90% of normal Linux and Windows, which is very strong. Yes, and you have to know that this is based on the premise that it is an external graphics card. Users of external graphics cards The performance loss itself is very, very small. Thunderbolt 4 is a version of PCIe 4.0x4. You have to know that on Windows and Mac, it is at least an X16 version. This speed is actually very powerful. So my first reaction is that this project is most suitable. Instead, it is the Mac Pro that was just killed by Apple Pie last week. It is a rack-mounted real tower Mac because it has a complete PCIe. So this thing can only be played by yourself. I think if you have an old-fashioned card in your hand, you can just play with it. You can actually work with it. How do you put it? This is related to the entire AI business. If you want to run, then you want to run the most advanced and easy-to-use AI in the world. Sorry, I checked it specifically last night. I was at home and chatting with the AI. It is civilian equipment. It is almost impossible to run these things. I said that if, even Cloud OpenAI and Google will give you the original model files and let you run. It's hard for you to run it for civilian use. It's worse than GPC. That civilian model is almost 1.8 trillion. What is the 120B one? Yes, the open source one is 120. That one is not bad. If you want to really run these full-blooded ones, it starts with about 8 H200. Then the electricity consumption alone is enough to shut down your community. Ah, these few thousand are the whole building. The whole building is shut down because I checked it and it is tens of thousands of watts. One is very powerful. This number sounds very powerful. It's tens of thousands of watts. Well, your circuit also needs to be modified. It's all messed up. It's definitely not good to run it at home. You need a special computer room to run it. Ah, this is only suitable for running some small models in your hands. I saw some official demonstrations running, ah, about 27B. That's tens of millions. Well, the token is 1819, which is pretty much usable. And this thing doesn't need a driver because it calls the hardware directly, so I can only say Then this thing is not approved by Apple, ah, Apple, Apple is not, Apple does not allow it, right, right, right, the only thing Apple did here is that it recognized the project, so it was issued to him, but it was not authorized and authorized with a signature. This software will not be used by Apple users in the future, just turn off SIP. Ah, Apple only did this thing, and the graphics card model it supports is AMD's first choice, because AMD and Apple have joined forces before, and Nvidia only supports 30. Didn't they also join forces? That's too long ago. In fact, do you think why they didn't unite and then all 30-series graphics cards can be used? Don't you want to be a grudge? I know this is right, so this thing, I can only say that this guy is strong. This guy is really awesome. If you want to say what this thing has, it has any fundamental changes to the AI of the entire Apple ecosystem. I don't think it does. It just has one more way to play. You see, Teacher Fan Liguanghai said that now they are not bad at playing games, they are bad at consumer grade. Yes, this is getting harder and harder to say now. Well, this manufacturer has made it clear that it does not take advantage of consumers. Just don't take ordinary consumers. Anyway, there is nothing to sell to you. You can figure it out on your own. You are all complaining about the increase in memory prices, right? Then I have to be crazy about the increase in the price of graphics cards. It's not that he pretended to be a good person at this time. It's not that he didn't mention it. He forgot it in the past two years, right? The industry changes too fast. Okay, that's probably the news. Now the main thing is that those computing centers are the ones from the past. Can they still be used? They are the computing centers that were used near hydropower stations in the past. These things can be considered AI originally, but it is just an issue of efficiency. When Lao Huang released these things, he always used double precision. The GPU did double precision FP64 calculations. And for AI, he does not need such high precision, so his hardware unit uses FP64 to simulate weather, simulate earthquakes, and simulate. It is this kind of mathematical problem. The unit that handles this kind of problem has been chopped into units like now, right? Lao Huang has been pushing FP4FP8. This kind of unit is nothing more than a matter of hardware selection. It’s all capable. Then this FP is a floating point unit. It’s the same as a large or small box. It’s there after it’s built. You can’t turn FP64 into FP8. FP64 counts as FP64. FP8 counts as FP8. You can make FP64 count as FP4 work, but it’s extremely inefficient. You can also add multiple FP4s together to count as FP64 work. It’s more efficient, right? This is an efficiency issue. I don’t understand Apple’s attitude. It’s because Apple has recognized this thing. This thing is an option for developers. I think Apple’s openness to the Mac platform has always been good. Yes, it’s good. It’s number one. Apple has no reason to reject this project and won’t give it to him. That’s because he has no reason to be stuck. That’s for sure. That’s because he can’t say, I see that this thing you’re using is not my hardware, so I won’t buy it for you. Isn’t it okay? At least he didn’t do this on the Mac. To be honest, this project itself has been tested for many years. I think Apple usually pretends not to know when it comes to this kind of thing. He didn't pretend not to know this time, right. He might have been scolded too harshly. You're too handsy here. You won't let me use yours. You can't use other people's. It's reasonable. It's reasonable. Okay. I'm afraid. Okay. Let's talk about the next article. Okay. Mr. Peng said that the heat has to be eaten. We won't eat folding today. Let's eat regular. It’s April, Mr. Peng. The first thing I did when I saw this news was to check the source of the leak. I hope I don’t see the word “love or not” in the news. It’s impossible. I also checked and found out that Y-Live is not us. Y-Live is not. We really have nothing to rest on. What if Mr. Peng hides it every day? I don’t know what the progress of the project is now. Is it right? Mr. Peng will tell everyone if it looks like this. Let me see. I've seen the picture on the left a long time ago. Isn't the picture on the left the first one to be circulated? Was it changed to a punch-hole screen? And then we haven't refuted the rumors. Yes, this is his sense of light. It's improved, right? The level of selfishness, and this should be true. It's no surprise, right? Kojima. As the release approaches, right? All kinds of gods are hanging. Then, the troublesome ones, the charming ones, the knowledgeable ones, all of them are gathered into this, getting closer and closer to the truth. Isn't this the same as what we had before? I have talked about many issues of the news and I have linked them together. It is still a favorite thing, but I am a little curious. He has changed to this. Although the island in the middle has become smaller, if he wants to do it for animation, he still has to make a centered island. It is impossible for him to have an island on one side. This must be definitely correct. So, is it in the animation or the UI? In fact, it will not change very much. Will it change? Will it deliberately cover up a step, and it should not be larger? At that time, it was said that it was the rule for going to the island. How do you render that island? I also read about it. There is a big space in the middle that you can’t use. It’s the space in the middle. He only gave a few options. I remember one is takeout, one is sports competition, and the third is your taxi, ticket software, and ticket software. That thing in the middle should be customizable to be wide. Even if Apple makes an origin, the thing in the middle will only be scaled down a little bit in equal proportions. This should not affect me. I still remember a news from quite a long time ago. It was when we were talking about Smart Brain. In fact, I was in the live broadcast. I still remember that of course I said something. I said that the UI idea of Smart Brain. I think the most amazing thing is that in the future, he can take the initiative to make Smart Brain beautiful. I still remember that there was a person in the live broadcast room who laughed at me and thought that this statement was very true and smelly. Who apologized? But in fact, this matter has been made clear now, because in terms of technological progress, it must be the upper area in the middle. In other words, the sensor area will become smaller and smaller, and the screen will be smaller and smaller. But as a UI, you have to adapt to this kind of technological progress that may or may not exist. So if you use this smart brain method, it will automatically blacken you and the hardware will cause it. He can even move his head up to the bottom of the screen, right? The island will definitely still exist at that time, but if he progresses step by step with the UI, his smart way, this, and this, when this does not exist, his hidden way will become more and more insensible, and more and more you will not feel it. The process in the future will be a very perfect one. The gradual progress of hardware and the software UI will gradually coordinate in such a way. I think many of our domestic manufacturers are Android manufacturers, and they are not called domestic manufacturers. In fact, the UI is limited by its camera technology. If the camera of this product is designed in the upper left corner, then your entire UI will have to be changed. If the next generation product is designed in the middle, it will either be water droplets or dig holes. In fact, it is quite a headache for people who do UI. He may have to adapt to different versions of mobile phones. But if Apple adopts this method, it is also a benefit brought by Smart Island. As a by-product, I have to sigh with emotion. The supply chain management capabilities of Apple, a small library, have come to the new island. The bangs haven’t gone yet. Oops, I really want to say this. Damn, new islands are here. Yes, you can still buy them. You can also buy old islands and new islands with bangs, right? It’s possible in the future on Apple’s official website. Hey, does Apple have a notebook without an island? A notebook without an island. You do. You do. Oh, there are also ones without an island. I also think about the Mai Pro. It seems that the Mai Pro is all gone. I'll find out who said that to Mr. Peng just now. If I find it, I will block your Bilibili account. I understand Mr. Peng's meaning. Okay, I understand. Hey, La Qing Dan, right? La Qing Dan. Don't look at it at the time. I didn't say it at the time. Now it's time to repay it. Repay it, right? Well, if there are fingerprints on the front-facing glass, what can I use to wipe it clean with a coated cloth that I can carry with me anywhere? Hey, that's fine, that's fine. Ah, no point. This is no point. You just know. Isn't it done when you open the single page and look up? Someone doesn't know. Okay, let's take a look at it now. Is it easy to make a film like Mr. Peng? Well, we already have one. Haha, is it like this? The product is similar to the official guidance of CED. At that time, it may come out, which is how big my hole is. Then his development document, the Safe Area, may be revised. Okay, okay, we have analyzed this. Is it a dot matrix or something? So what other problems are there now? It must be stored on the screen, not under the screen. Infrared, infrared is not an eye. Your camera must be right. In addition to the camera, basically he can do everything he wants to do under the screen. Right, right. It depends on whether you sacrifice, uh, time or something like light perception and ambient light. If you do it under the screen, ambient light will definitely affect the accuracy. Apple's touch screen does it, ah, it still needs high precision, yes, yes, OK, okay, okay, this is such a news. Well, we are also looking forward to this. This should not be postponed. Now there is a lot of news about the postponement of the folding screen. Well, first of all, the release will definitely not be postponed. But the key issue is whether the supply will be delayed, right? Uh, we are just in April now, whether the supply has been extended or not. To be honest, Cook doesn't know, right? He is also screwing with Ross, and he is also asking executives to use threats and inducements. Let's not judge this matter now. I have finished tightening this, right, this, as soon as all aspects cooperate, the progress will catch up. It is possible that this will not be done before the release. We don't make this prediction. I have to eat the heat you said, yes. Then you eat and I will reduce the heat. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. No problem. You are still convincing at your age. Hi, who has an easy life? Let’s talk about the next news. Okay. Xiaomi has also increased its price. Now the situation is like this. Right? This is the problem. I can’t stand it anymore. I can’t stand it anymore. Teacher Lu Weibin. Well, they also post it late at night, right? They post this kind of price increase news late at night and then this. You thought we were sleeping. The iPhone is updated at three o’clock. The iPhone is used. Don’t play these tricks in the future. Okay, this is the memory now. Teacher Lu Weibin said that the memory has increased by 4 times. My evaluation said that it has increased by 4 times, right? This is the situation now. What should I do? Can you guys give me an idea? What should I do? Have you been convinced not to renew the contract? I have been convinced to renew the contract. Yes, the shopkeeper, don’t sell it. If you sell it again, you will lose money. It seems to me that not all models have increased. It seems to be a few of Redmi. Compared with the current models, they are the kind of machines that rely on volume to ship. Maybe they really can’t stand it. And then in addition, it has increased. Then I am not long and I am not stupid, right? Isn’t it necessary to make friends with users? To make good products that move people’s hearts and are kindly priced. Don’t friends understand each other? But Redmi has gone up, but its memory subsidy, the 1 billion yuan memory subsidy, is still being supplemented. Yes, but the launch discount is gone. He has no 1 billion yuan memory subsidy. Yes, yes, yes, you are dirty. Really, you just go and go and go and send these bitten plum things. Is this one billion byte memory? Is it a billion memory? Isn't it a billion bytes? Okay, okay. First of all, we have talked about memory before. This is an entire industry chain. One thing that is bound to happen is that as the demand for AI computer rooms increases, this high-bandwidth memory, DDR, will definitely increase, because the annual production volume of memory in the entire industry is only so much. If you say that you have been robbed by these people who can offer higher prices, then you, this will definitely increase. This is a non-negotiable law of supply and demand economics. You must know this now, and then invest money in the production line to increase the memory production line. It will have to be at least a year later, right, so this is what we were talking about last time, oh, if there is no way to improve this, it will probably be by the end of today. At that time, you also said, Peng Li, you are too optimistic, can things improve at an age? Is there any panic because of this fear? Hey, sometimes it drops one day, rises and falls again. It must be an upward curve, but the general upward trend will definitely not change this year. For mobile phone manufacturers, why does it rise? When the price of memory is high, you are faced with two choices. One is your competitors. Have they gone up? If your competitors have gone up, then you have to go up quickly. If your competitors have not gone up, you may have to bite the bullet and bear the price. Don't go up. This is because competition has the final say. Now Xiaomi should be the last one to go up. That means no matter what their internal registration costs are, if they see that others have gone up, it means that their own space is gone, and they are all gone. There is no need to fight with others. This is about who can go through the cycle. I think there are two types of markets. One is that companies like Apple and Samsung are absolutely one-size-fits-all. At this time, we have to take out the fruits of our own reputation. You see, we have already locked 15% of your 26-year production capacity. Samsung cannot do it. Samsung said, brothers, I will aggrieve you first and stop making mobile phones next year. The price of the car next door is too high. Do you have an entrepreneurial spirit? We agreed. Samsung Display and Samsung Electronics. When the price fell, I didn't ask you to get cheaper. Back then, your mobile phone exploded and the whole company helped you carry it. Without us, you wouldn't be alive today. Anyway, it means that companies like Apple, which have bargaining power, can search again. You just want to save face and say that if you don't give me a little longer, maybe I won't be able to do it in the future. I'm looking for you. It's possible, but the absolute majority don't have this kind of bargaining power, or the volume of goods carried by such a company is relatively small. If such a company has a relatively small volume, the income will be very large. I think Luo Weibing said something very harsh, that is, this cycle may last for a year. Many small mobile phone manufacturers may not be able to survive this year. There are still small mobile phone manufacturers, including many people talking about this big cup and this Ultra. Maybe many people have no follow-up just because of the memory issue. This is a very, very possible thing. I have seen this. Is this Ultra American leader Luo Weibing said? That's what Xiao Xiaozhan said. To Xiao Zhan, the reason is because many small merchants say that if it rises with the price of memory, its price will be more expensive than those of Xiaomi's big manufacturers. It is because it does not have the right to one price and has no inventory. There is no other place to get it. When we were making notebooks at Qingshan Tebang, when the memory increased, I could cut the price for you from the chip and the operating system. That's okay, right? Because there is a bit of one-price power, but if you are a small manufacturer, when your price rises, your entire price will rise. You may not even have the opportunity to buffer in the middle. In the end, your price will cause you to be unable to sell. If you are unable to sell, you will have even less impression. After the bad weather rises, many small manufacturers really cannot survive this winter. Therefore, this kind of manufacturer that relies on Xinjiabi, that is, it is a manufacturer that bears the cost of curtains. Its fault tolerance is very small, very small. As long as one of your costs goes up, you want to bear it yourself. If you don’t have the strength to carry those things, you just can’t survive this winter. So this year may be a particularly difficult winter for many domestic mobile phone manufacturers. If you look at it from the perspective of your own interests, if you can survive the entire one-year cycle, don’t buy it now. But if you find that you can’t carry it, you have some needs and release them early. You should sell earlier. You should sell earlier. Don’t wait for other manufacturers to die. Later, it was said that prices have gone up. If you want to buy it at that time, you may not be able to buy it. At that time, we said that memory prices were rising. It will cause the SQ edge of the mobile phone to shrink. But I don’t understand why I received Ultra at the beginning. I sell Ultra. Dilton said: It stands to reason that Ultra has the highest premium and can withstand the increase in memory prices. Why should it be axed? This is a very abnormal thing. In fact, Ultra’s profit margin is often not as good as that of Redmi, or it is even losing money. Because its absolute shipment volume is still too small compared to the vast majority of various models. Not everyone is like Apple. Not to mention Ultra, a Pro can sell tens of millions of units. And casually, it is a product that sells tens of millions of units globally. If you want to think about these in China, I won’t even mention it. Just compare it with Apple. All Ultras in China or all combined, the number of Xiaolong 8 Extreme Edition digested without Samsung, this already illustrates the problem. So if you understand the supply chain, you may find something that goes against common sense. That is to say, the price of Ultra is already very high, but its actual cost, whether it is because it requires less quantity, or because its requirements are too special, may be amortized by a lot of R&D costs, or some suppliers give it a difference, which itself is higher than the difference reflected in its selling price. In the end, after calculation, Ultra is really a loser. For most manufacturers, it is all about the image of Mathematics. Mathematics has its own high-end technology and tells you that our technology is very high and then rush to lower products, right? The brand tone has also been improved, and then it can make some money, can ship goods, and really bring profits. Each company is not the most high-end technology and the largest investment in products. Yes, if it exceeds the market, you will know. Samsung is of course. Even if Samsung's S series sells very well, it is still not the main force in making money. You have to say that there are many people in the world who use the A series and ordinary Samsung series. There are too many. For example, like OPPO VIVO, these two are very typical. Every time they use Ultra technology. It will all be put down on next year's X series. If it doesn't have Ultra, it won't be able to test the market. Will it pay for a very cutting-edge one? There's no way. You have to always do it. With this year's market, what can they do? It's because, for example, several Ultras may have used this specially customized sensor. If you have an Ultra, the lifespan of one year in the past is now two years. The money you spend on customizing the next generation sensor can at least save electricity. Your purchase volume of this generation. At least you can add some, and then you can get through this cycle. You say, oh my, if I don't have the next generation, will my product strength decline? If everyone doesn't have the next generation, my relative product strength will not decline, right? This will give me more time to polish, right? There is a manufacturer that can also offer bottles at a deep discount, and it's not that low, so this is a very reasonable choice, and it may also be more realistic now. It is a choice that should be decorated to resolve the case. This can only be the case with this memory matter. Maybe with our subsequent live broadcasts, this impact will become more and more obvious. It may be much greater than we imagined. In addition to memory, there are many, many electronic components. The industry is skyrocketing. Everything is growing. It has something to do with oil. The one that sits on the toilet. The one that sits on the high-end toilet is called Total Total. Its stock price has also skyrocketed recently. That is because it is the only company in the world that makes a ceramic grip plate. In the Jinyuan Factory, this thing is a loss part, and it has a very, very large share. Then the Jinyuan Factory started production at full capacity, causing this thing to be out of stock, causing its stock price to rise immediately. Hey, this means that the increase means that the shortage is already going up the chain, right? This is no longer the case. It's overflowing on our toilet seat. That's what I mean. Spread some sand on the top one. Anyway, oh, you said, that's the situation anyway, that's what it is. There's nothing we can do now. The only thing that can't bear it now is the Xiaomi brand. Red rice has gone up, but Xiaomi hasn't. Well, it seems that Xiaomi has also gone up. It seems that a few models have also gone up. Anyway, that's the situation. It's a matter of time. This is just like what we said before. Maybe the cheapest time to buy a mobile phone today is when it is first launched. Well, after the first launch, your 618 Double 11 may not necessarily have this price. You either want this discount, or you want the first launch benefits, or you want a national subsidy. I won't say it. Let's wait and see at the end of the year. If the demand does not rise so fiercely at the end of the year, and the production situation is relatively smooth, then there is still some hope. I also want to say that the news of the price reduction will definitely spread immediately. Can this money be paid out? I don’t think this is someone hiding it and saying that the price reduction will not spread. Well, you can still spit out the money. You can still spit out the money for the tablet. Thank you for the microphone. Let’s see if it can be recycled. Our friends who have been hanging out in our live broadcast room all year round, like Yu Qian, know when to start with the PPT. I just said that this size lens is very good. It is a little less deliberate than the one you just made with the chip. The second-tier mobile phone will grow. We have grown. We have grown. The only one who has benefited. The industry that has benefited from the price increase is counter-cyclical. This live broadcast room is so harmonious. Well, now you are sure to lose money by replacing the steel basin. You might as well sell it to us. Look, Karen, we will spit out the money. They should be able to do it. Those giants, um, can you be so kind as you? I will finish it for you. Anyway, after Lao Huang experienced the ore bomb, the price of the graphics card did not decrease. Yes, some people said that you should join the Aifou member store. Well, there are some products in the Aifou member store that really need to increase in price. This one will increase by a few cents. I forgot about them. Oh, when calculating, it is mainly because of the price increase of raw materials. Ah, the price of raw materials. If you want to say why the price of raw materials has increased, the supplier will tell us the reason for the war. Then what should I do? We have no export risks. Hahaha, so I don’t know. Can we be traced by the physical performance? I don’t know what they will increase, but I don’t know what will increase the price. It should be um these two days, uh, because everyone knows what we are selling on the post at this time, um, but you don’t have to worry if it increases. It only increased by one or two cents. I remember it should be. You see, this is a pure improvement. Oh, don’t tell everyone. Just buy one if you don’t tell everyone. You don’t tell everyone and buy everything. You know, oh, while we have an increase of one or two cents, hurry up and buy 100 yuan. Hahaha. Hahahaha. Don’t you save money? It’s not necessary. What can I say? The cool moment for this old user is about to begin. Yes, hahaha. Buy a lot the day before the price increase. Please be patient about this, there is nothing you can do about it. Mr. Peng just said that the price of this, that, and that line is not a straight line. There are twists and turns in the middle. So why does a line fall when the stock price goes down? Hahaha, you click to pull, and you can stretch it to see. It’s not like I haven’t seen you stretch the cliff. Then you have chosen the wrong person, right? I think this one is going up. It’s going up. OK, the next one is this one, this one this week, it’s not actually a new product. Fuck, why did I choose this news? I did it the other way around. This product has not been released yet, but it has not yet been launched and has not yet been priced. It is said to be released in April. Dyson has a new mini cool fan, a small handheld fan. Well, one of the highlights is that one of his has a speed of 65,000 rpm. This should be the first in the handheld fan industry except for those violent fans customized by up owners. One is his one. He himself said what is it called, noise reduction technology? Well, what is it called? It is called Hashgate. The noise reduction logic of the jet engine is applied to the 200-gram product, which solves the high-frequency effect of the fan. This friend mentioned the sandworm and my comment. In the comment area of this news, I saw someone using AI to make a sandworm. What is the sound chain? What is the sound chain? It is such a small product. I am thinking whether they have got the news. This year, the global shortening will be intensified, right? This is mainly a small word to show off their motors, or I, I, I feel it is possible, after all. I heard that the companies smiled a little, ah, Mr. Yang, after all, the bolt is the core technology, right? It is his motor. The motor is very successful for him to make around the motor. It is this, uh, air control shock absorber, plus his hair dryer. Well, since it includes some floor fans, it is actually quite successful. Well, something like this is actually one of them. What kind of derivative product is it? It is outstanding, including the one he actually made before, uh, the head-mounted air dropper. Right, it’s also based on this. If I don’t mention it, I almost forget about it. Let’s pass it on, right? But I think Sir Defin’s aesthetic can also be called jazz, right? You can also add a try. Jazz is a try. He is a jazz, a jazz, Mr. Mr. Defin, this, this. How did this project pass within the company? When you look at this thing, you think we should launch a product like this. How did you do it, including his head-mounted one? Well, the air descender. I guess he is also Mr. Dyson. It was finalized directly. Ah, that thing can live up to jazz. We really thought it was a Women's Day joke. I didn't let you stand and watch. Uh, if this happens, I think, uh, someone in the company may still need to remind this. Who reminded me, doesn't Longlin carbon fiber sound good? Well, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, eh, how should I put it? After all, this has been posted in the circle of friends for the rest of my life. The biggest problem of Huawei is that the design team has no aesthetic. Wow, they also know this. um, this is what I realized. He is the real leader boss It's right. It's your design team that determines this company. It doesn't matter. You are Apple and you have such a high say. It's right. It means telling the truth. There is very little room for change. This leader needs to be like that, right? That word I said before is to be like Apple, but not to the extent of being sued by Apple. Haha, our needs are like this. Well, this is so shameless on the factory. Then look at the default wallpapers of each one now. Which one is not Wei Miao Wei Xiaoxue? Don't you just act like you just joined the job? Don't you usually work in this industry? People have clearly mentioned to us privately that I sell well. So what can you do? Yes, this is the market. That's it. Well, I wish you well. I hope this finished product can match the past. What is the handheld fan? To be honest, he only talks about the speed and not the air volume. That's right. Guess, this thing still needs to be detailed everywhere. And since I've said that, This thing of mine should be used for cooling in the summer. Well, you see that this shape should be carried with you. Then I still think that the kind with cooling effect is called a device. Let’s go to the cooling device. Semiconductor. Yes. Whether it is a semiconductor or this kind of thing, it depends solely on the wind. I think it is already difficult to solve in the summer. That is to say, the actual comfort problem. What kind of bell is the bell? Then I don’t know if you will feel weird when you ride a bicycle this summer. If you ride more than 25 kilometers, it is impossible, impossible. I love it like a dead dog. You still need to take the initiative. Yes, I haven't ridden for more than 20 kilometers. Don't talk nonsense. OK, okay. Let me give you an excuse first. It means that I really don't understand this product. I may say something wrong. You may not laugh. It means that I understand. Uh, Dai Sheng's core ability is to make this kind of motor without fan fluid, right? Well, this matter is very reasonable for vacuum cleaners, because you can't remove dust. You must use this small air spring to remove it. Well, this matter is also correct for hair dryers. Right, because you can't have a hair dryer and a large fan fluid can't be there. But this matter, actually on the floor fan, I have already felt that something is wrong. For a floor fan, what is the point of making a vacuum fan without fan fluid at all? No, probably not. I agree with that. Maybe it is because you don't want the little animal or the baby at home to touch the handle. What is involved in the fan fluid? OK, I agree. But on these, the fan fluid is not used to create a vacuum without fan fluid. What's the point of this? People who have fan fluid don't know how to do it. Those who have fan fluid have never done it. We, Iver, have also made small fans with fan fluid. Hey, are there any problems with making fans with fan fluid? I looked at his file and it seems to solve some kind of education. What kind of shape? Yes, yes, yes, if you want to be stunned by these things, I can't convince you. I can't be convinced. You may say what is this called? This is a big deal. One of the techniques is called practice, right? For a better product in the future, we need to make this thing miniaturized. Novice, yes, yes, yes, everyone can teach me about this. I really don’t know much about this product. Speaking of which, the small fan of Aifou is not bad. I am still using it. Our fan is the same as Tujiu. It is equipped with two fan fluids and one section. Yes, yes, yes, it is very powerful, very powerful, very powerful. In this industry, let’s talk about this product because the price has not yet been announced. We have so many of these things that we can’t talk about this thing. You should quadruple the price of this thing. He sells it for 100 yuan. I think it’s 100 yuan. I think I might buy a table at that time. For 100 yuan, you can buy a screw-on lid. If he sells it for four times the price, then I think this thing is too marketable. But there is an advantage. Maybe some domestic manufacturers will launch similar models later. I can do everything. The body is empty in the middle. Then it’s over if you don’t do short selling, right? You can buy it overseas for 100 dollars, right? 100 dollars, 688. Hmm. Well, then I think this product is very good. It’s very good. Everyone buy more. After buying it, it’s not the news. You really choose it. I choose it. What news? This is Teacher Jiang’s real thing. You don’t want to talk about it. So what can you talk about? Can we chat on this platform? Well, talk about this. Oops. Can we talk about this? Oops. What does this mean? Isn't this public? You are spreading it anyway. Ah, what about pausing advertising? Bida, let me flash it. Take a look. I'll flash it for you. No, once this account is opened, why can't we chat? But I watched the F-O video today and it didn’t pop up. It’s not online yet. It will be online on April 10th. It seems that the switch is already there, but it can be turned off. It can be turned off by the UP master. Don’t talk about this. Don’t talk about this. It puts the F department in an unkind and disadvantageous situation. He first put this advertisement at B station, right? Uh, my understanding is that I am not only a student. My understanding is this. Isn’t there a bumper advertisement at the bottom of the video? It’s at the bottom of the video. Details of the bumper advertisement above. One of the ads is that you can accept the placement of the system. The other is to be honest. I am talking about this now than talking about other Hantututu. I am quite scared now. The other is that the UP owner can choose by himself. Ah, yes, but we usually use that one. Why didn’t we choose a member store? You didn’t put it on the shelves. Ah, I’ll come back next time. I’ll tell you the truth. Yes, this is such a situation. Then my understanding is that the pause advertisement is equivalent to the column advertisement. Let’s talk about it. It feels like the priority has increased. Yes, yes, then it is a dynamic I haven't watched the video. I haven't seen it today. To be honest, I added it. I think first of all, your B station still has that problem. The biggest difference with YouTube is that the way to make money is different. People also get loans. Each loan costs no money, and each loan costs money. Yes, that's right. It's your YouTube and Google Cloud. Okay. Is this the responsibility of my brothers? Your B site or the backend, the various CDNs and other things behind it, all have to be taken care of. Yes, and you want this domestic one, which is called upload loan. Civil loans and commercial loans are completely different in price. They are very expensive. So big members can’t. This is a bit too much for big members. You can’t tell. Big members should support Bilibili at this time. Ah, member-exclusive ads. Don’t talk about these. Are you going to be a big member in the future? What I’m talking about is the member-exclusive ads of the Aixi platform. Ah, in the future, it will be small members, big members, and super large members. Small members are limited to April 1st. Ah, big members and super large members. Listen to Peng Hong. Peng Hong, don't you want to talk? Ah, I think this is a good thing, this is a good thing, right, uh, first of all, we have already given some methods and suggestions regarding the profitability of station B before. I think not only should we add this pause advertisement, but also should add a pre-roll advertisement. My goal is very clear. My position is very clear. What's the reason? I just forgot my original intention. It belongs to us now. Don't talk about this anymore. Uncle came up and said no advertising, and now he is advertising again. This has lost his original intention. I think all of us, especially the fans in this live broadcast room, should stop being so naive. After all, the world is still controlled by economic laws. If a platform cannot provide incentives to creators, it will inevitably force creators to find other ways to advertise. This is the way. This matter is a deadlock and the root cause is something that cannot be solved. This is why we always feel that the content of station B may start to be a little watery or start to be suspicious of advertising, or even some that you think are not advertising. For example, take the mobile phone industry, right? They pull each other down and have a stand on each other. If you want to find out the underlying reasons, it's not because this media up owner has not made any mistakes. He sometimes has to find his own way if he doesn't have a source of income. If he doesn't have a source of income, he can only side with a certain manufacturer. This is certain. It is that this matter has been hidden to a certain extent. I think the media industry has led to the entire technology industry. I don’t know if it’s definitely too late for him to do this now, and he can’t save it. Uh, but the actual situation is that you should have done it earlier. If your film has ads, if you pause ads in the middle, the money will be given to the up owner without moving. Even if you can bite him alone, you don’t have to think about the team. In the long run, you will slowly harvest some people who can produce high-quality content, who really rely on traffic and advertising display as their true ability. This aspect of content I think uh, he may be under a lot of pressure in the short term. I think many people are uh, childish children using this to put this or other ideals or ideas on this site B. I guess the management of site B is also a little guilty. I don't know if this thing will be scolded by this person after it is posted, and then whether it will be withdrawn. This is if we can subsidize this thing, we will definitely receive fewer orders. We will definitely receive fewer orders. So on this matter, I personally have passed that stage. I am more idealistic about everything. At that stage, I still hope that, uh, the most important thing is that it can be done on site B, but I especially hope that site B can support most of the revenue to the creator. That’s what it means. Yes, I said that if site B makes the money itself, Then we will join everyone in scolding him. Yes, but if you want to subsidize most of this thing to the creator, I think this matter is not profitable for Station B. So he just wants to make more money from this, then I don’t understand it. So the key is this, uh, income distribution, how to share the high issue. I think this is the core of these, not that it should not be done. Whether this should be done is still being debated and discussed. Well, there is a small problem. That’s it. This thing is not allowed and shouldn't be allowed to be turned on by the up owner. When the up owner comes to see you and turn it on, you can switch this switch. This switch cannot be given to the up owner. It must be site B. You can take a picture on the board and let everyone join in. Hey, I think this is so disgusting. I think again, hey, maybe this is indeed a bit unsatisfactory. I think first, I do support this matter, but I also hope that the platform can be more decisive in this matter. Um, we have to be firmer in the face of big rights and wrongs. We can't open it. The situation is like this. We will open it now, but we will try this thing to see how much it can bring to ifo. If the amount is really big enough to allow us to have fewer business orders, we will continue to open it. Otherwise, ah, no, it's not that simple. I don't think so. What Karen said is that we are also inquiring about the distribution of revenue from this thing at Bilibili. We don’t know the distribution plan now. That is to say, when he launched this function, he never mentioned this at all. But if it is his distribution ratio, it is okay, right? We can at least use the distribution ratio that we are willing to support as a reference, right? We don’t expect it. You can get the same share ratio as YouTube, but it’s not too different. As long as it’s not too different, the total volume is small. I think it’s not too different. My friend, I said the ratio doesn’t say the total amount. We firmly believe that this is beneficial to Bilibili, but you don’t want to take anything from us, right? I think it’s good to take this in short and just try it. At least Bilibili has to think about this aspect. It should have been thought about earlier. He also thinks it’s wrong, although he should have thought about it a long time ago. But he at least started to think about it today. I think it’s okay. It’s okay. It’s better than nothing, right? So this is anyway, for me, I can’t do without using Bilibili. I also have to spend the money. As a user who has been full-time at Bilibili for several consecutive years. As an FGO player, I quite like Bilibili. To be honest, I said today that Bilibili’s video push mechanism is not good. It is not good, but I should. I still don’t use it until now. I really rarely use other ones, just digital ones. I don’t know your habits. I may watch some videos of small UP masters on non-existent websites. If I meet him, I really like him. Then pay attention to site B. No, but he doesn’t. That site B is a demonstration without me. I found that his playback volume is relatively low, but if I have a small content, I won’t even dance in his ads. I might. I might finish watching it or even click it. But I will definitely not consume, but I will try my best to click it. I feel that I don’t have money, and I don’t want to support it with real money. Maybe not to that extent, but I will watch his ads and simply jump. This is a habit I have developed. My Youtube, I, and Bilibili are all really called monthly subscriptions, right? It means taking off, no, no, no, it is paid content, yes, yes, it is paid content. First of all, I spent money. Then I can’t talk about that website. I really didn’t have any money. Then I signed up as a member to watch some special programs. Because at that time, I first became a member of Bilibili because I know this UP owner very well. I have watched him for many years before he came out. I think I am willing to pay for his content. I also want to see this problem. The paid access card is a bit high. Your lower access card is your own advertisement. Yes, yes, yes. That is to say, Youtube is low for some reason. Although I have been following him for a short time, he has free content. He also has free content. I can tell after watching it once. He has indeed studied it carefully, so I am willing to do something. Many people think that I just want to take a look. This type of advertising is called a middle advertisement. Or it is not a pre-roll advertisement. In fact, if you don't pause, it will not disturb you at all. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. It's the same sentence. It's up to you to open the pot. It's up to you, especially those who can't open the door. You're like us, especially a shameless operator like me, right? I clicked on it the first time. I'd like to see something like that. Your little up said that if you open it, how can users think you can see what you are to us? If you don't open it, you'll lose an income. Mr. Peng has a way to control this switch. I certainly hope it's in the hands of station B, right? This is what everyone does. You are a fellow, don’t give it to me, don’t block it. These are what the platform should bear. It’s not like I won’t share the responsibility with you. Good. I’ve seen people spray this on other platforms. They say that it cuts off that muscle. It turns into whether you take the poison or not. How do you turn it into points? Hahaha, turn it into points, right? There’s no such thing as this switch. It’s poison. Whether you take the poison or not, this poison is in your hands, not in the hands of Station B. Then he will grow up smoothly and watch all of your Geely. But if you want to talk about other platforms, let’s not talk about other platforms. Just so-and-so, love so-and-so and some You so-and-so. I, I, I really don’t know. There is basically none. Now Bilibili is indeed. Otherwise, you still have something called AC. You can’t mention it on this platform. There is two buns. That platform is fine. It is not a competitor, right? This is really old. This seems to be the Youku Tudou platform at that time. You know, it seems interesting. I used to use Youku and I knew about Bilibili. I may have never been on Tudou. Tudou was established earlier than YouTube. Youku or YouTube is super Tudou. Either, or there is no such thing. Bilibili didn't have it. Before the one called direct transfer, most of them were Tudou's Sina. Yes, Tudou. Tudou was on the earliest batch of China's so-called Internet celebrities, Houshe boys. Do you know that Houshe boys are bigger than him? When did potatoes start to be dried? Oh, it was in the 2000s. It was in the 2000s. In the 2000s, I remember that there were still people from our colleagues who jumped to the export market. There were also professors. The professors were from before. And that includes who. Who was called that? Oh, the director, the director, the director, the director, the director, the director, the director, the director, the director, the director. Factory Director Factory Director Factory Director Factory Director Factory Director Factory Director Factory Director Factory Director Factory Director 3G was in 2008 and 09. There was 3G at that time. The Internet was wrong. What website was there at that time? There was no 3G. At that time, he was watching it on the website, not on his mobile phone. Right, the first time he watched F-O was on Youku. At that time, there was a thing called Flash, which was still very advanced. What, don’t be silent while typing this. Anyway, this is what I’m talking about. We have talked so much about the website. Anyway, we are fundamentally supportive. We also hope that the experience can be optimized better. Well, we support Station B to make more money. I always feel that Station B makes more money, and we can also make more money. What does Baieji, Zhuluoji Baieji, mean? In the end, a fireball will hit my head. What's going on? Okay, let's talk about the next news. Why did this news come up so early? I thought it was the last one. Our good friends can't raise their positions at this time, right? I didn't talk about it just now. There are both sides next to me. Injury, injury, ours, a certain Internet celebrity, a certain Internet celebrity, Gu Technology Teacher, recently talked to some netizens. Let me show my love to him first. Okay, you bring it in, sell it, pull it to the public, come to neutrality, sell it, sell it, or reverse it. He posted some videos about the pins of a certain mobile phone, which triggered debates and discussions among some netizens. Everyone asked whether this product is a pin, and whether it is a pin. Anyway, there were some friendly and well-intentioned discussions based on this objective reality. We also experienced this discussion back then, right? Now there are rich people in the country. You can't escape it. You can't escape this disaster. Well, why don't people know what to do? I think the English short teacher has been defined by other media as what is called Mi media. Yes, it is on the list. Yes, the Mi system that you helped to certify has been deducted a Mi system, right? What is it now? Before you helped, you just blocked it by the way when you sealed the Mi system. Yes, blocked the car. The second one is the DSP teacher. Guess who is number one that day? Schrödingle's So and So, Gu Gu Gu Gu Khan's Rebellion, Entering the Bottom of the Twelfth House, you are definitely your name, right? This is the situation now. Well, I see that Teacher San San has become very interested in this topic today. It was a friend who asked me to study it, and I learned about it myself. Yes, Huawei Imagine, his so-called whole process of 8 hours and 120 full frames, is the pin inserted or not? Is the insertion good or not? In this matter, I want to criticize the title first. What's wrong? Is it true? Ju Technology verified that Huawei Imagine 90 and Imagine 90 game frame rate is fake. Did we create this title or found it online? I just called the first one. He didn't fake it. The verification has not been confirmed. No, this person never said that he didn't insert the pins, nor did he say that he inserted the pins. This is the first point. The second point. I'm here. After people insert 120, the display of 120 layers is not called fraud, right? How do you define this matter? You have our screenshots just now. You have our screenshots just now. Everyone has proved to us that Lanbai is our Li Shidong. This is also the first time for everyone to see Lanbai in the live broadcast room. Teacher, our friends in the live broadcast room can help us prove it, right? It has been inserted to 120 and displayed 120 frames. How can this be true or false? Then you are promoting 120. I promoted 120. I did not tell the story to insert it. Oh, you are talking to you about this with the Aihuo Technology people. We said we all have a trick. Oh, we are all doing this. This is life. Can we tell you? You let me stand on your side now. I can continue to change with you. Let me change myself. Okay. Oh, you talk to Aihuo Technology about this. The last thing Aihuo Technology knows how to measure is this. Let me tell you, it means objective facts. Do you mean objective facts? The fact is that Huawei will not be the backbone of China's technology industry. It can adaptively choose whether or not to insert pins in different scenarios. So under what circumstances? It's his pin. First of all, let me tell you something, we don't have any knowledge about the pin. Well, Chengye, Chengye, this time, it's all too often, too often. That is to say, the results we have seen so far are because, to be honest, there are too many sources of information on the Internet. What we can confirm is that he does have pins under high load. He is not native 60 frames. Whether it is from, not native 120 or native 60, there are different games in which he cannot run his native frames, right. Yes, so this thing will definitely insert the pin in some scenarios, but is it possible that it is under low load, such as a training camp, such as a test scenario, such as what level of temperature control, when it can run more. There is no real test of this thing. You can guess this thing on the Internet. I think it is meaningless because first, I have been in a mobile phone company. I said how this thing works. This is this thing. You have to go to the original code and go directly to the code to be qualified to test how this thing works. Otherwise, everything is unexplainable, because China is so silent. You are in the Northeast and you are in Hainan. You are in the Northeast and you are in Shenzhen. You are in the Northeast and you are in Shenzhen. In this environment and atmosphere, you are in Beijing yesterday and Beijing today. These two days, the temperature control may be completely different. The processing environment of his mobile phone. The version number. As for whether this thing is plugged in or not, it does not need you as the owner at all. Any visible operation is that the server has been updated and refreshed. You may have this switch for your thing. The default for this thing is changed from 0 to 1. Just open this thing, so it doesn’t make sense to guess this. We only say that this itself is the simplest logical judgment. It is the Kirin 8000. In fact, whether it is 8020 or 708000, it uses a less advanced process. Plus, this does not seem to be a top-level process, nor is it a top-level configuration, nor is it a top-level one. Under the premise of optimization, you can make it run with the same frame rate and special effects as other flagships. Picture, this thing is not realistic in reality, so I am more curious about those who refute our teacher Duan on the Internet. I don’t know if I don’t learn it today. There are really many verification methods that are impossible to beat. To refute this matter, and then justly say that this matter is absolutely not true, that is, do they really have the money to get it? I am really curious about this matter, but I don’t understand the secret behind it. Sir, let me tell you two things. One is that Teacher Duan said that he has a classic saying. I just went to see it yesterday. It’s those people who are using the things that come out of the bean bag. Those who haven’t seen it are the ones I have discovered now that Ai is really good. Do you know where it is? These are the people who refute, do not refute, or support it. They are all using Ai to make small programs on the web and then go to popularize science for everyone. Is it good or not? They don’t even know that the original code Ai gave him is the principle. It is the principle. They are wrong. They don’t know whether what he input is correct or not. And even what I saw That is to say, there are a lot of ups. I really mean that you went to fight against counterfeiting. It doesn’t matter whether Teacher Duan has any problems. Is this right? It’s the method you use to fight against counterfeiting. It’s scientific. Well, only then can you verify what you said. What is it? When Teacher Duan cashed in with others last night, the sound of beanbags came from others. No, I think the final meaning is that everyone needs to know that there are many people to verify and take the so-called high-speed camera to take pictures. He took one, that high-speed camera. The frame rate itself is a high-speed camera inserted by AI to verify this. Everyone who shoots bullets knows that some mobile phones can shoot the so-called 7680 frames or 960 frames. Isn't it shooting bullets? Many of them are not native. Then some of them take pictures to confuse them. That is, everyone has OLED with PWN frequency. The brightness itself fluctuates. Then you take a camera with a non-healing shutter to shoot these things to prove it. I can only say that I can understand if you send money, okay. This is your job. It's not easy for you to do it. But if you don't pay, you are just a car owner. That's what you call it. The simple sense of justice in your heart is your belief. If used in the right place, you are definitely a warrior. In fact, this question is if there are friends in the live broadcast room who are not sure whether Huawei Changxiang's memory has been inserted or not. In fact, I think you haven't understood it yet. You can first let me briefly explain it. If you really don't understand it, then tell you that it's not wrong. Just remember to scold you. First of all, Yingtan is also a good friend of ours. I think there is nothing wrong with his entire testing process and demonstration process. This is your fault for talking too much. No, no, you can completely believe what he said. I think this is a matter of objective technical facts. Talking about full health 120 and saying full strength and stability, I think he has a special video for everyone to watch. He is actually targeting these media, especially what is it called? It is completely ignoring the objective facts and forcing Huawei to be promoted. Even the official said those things were forced by them. Even the official said it was close and then they said it was not close. I think the direction of his attack is also very clear. This matter is much smarter than ours back then. This really should be learned from Teacher Yingya. So you want to say whether there is anything wrong with Huawei. I personally feel that Huawei has nothing wrong with it. The reason is that there was a GPUTURB incident. In fact, I was very impressed. Huawei's capabilities in GPU were already deeper than other domestic manufacturers a long time ago. GPUTURB was Honor, and Honor was still Huawei at that time. Yes, yes, yes, then you ask whether it can do it more capable than others. What Sun Sun said is to choose different intervention strategies in different scenarios. I think Huawei is very likely to be the first in the industry to perfectly implement such an intervening technology that users cannot figure out. That is, if it has the ability or temperature control to achieve high frame rates, it will not be bad. But if it does not have the ability, it will be poor. I think this matter, if you want to talk about all domestic manufacturers, who has this technology and who dares to do this? I really think Huawei is the only one who dares to do this. If Huawei makes this thing, well, it may not explicitly promote it, or simply mention 120 frames. I don’t think there is a big problem with Huawei in this matter. The biggest problem is actually some people who don’t understand and pretend to understand some of this, uh, some systems, um, the technology media, um, they forcefully say this, right, something that is not true. After Yingduan classmate pointed out this problem, they attacked and cursed, and used some completely unreliable technology to refute this matter. So I think, um, yes, even Nvidia can be involved. I mean, this is just to prove this. It's just that these are confusing right and wrong. Even the official has come to an end. In the situation, they are still insisting on saying, hey, what I said is right. What the Huawei official said is not right, right? Why bother? Anyway, it's okay, right? Our position is probably clear. Hey, this is such a situation, right? Then you are also welcome to pay attention to Teacher Gu Technology. In addition to Weibo, Bilibili can follow his video. This is very good. The data is very beautiful. We just had fun for a long time in the afternoon. I really learned something. I loved watching a video that I even played in reverse. I gritted my teeth and watched it. I looked at Teacher Yingde’s data. Even though the number of views was far lower than ours, the comments and likes were much higher than ours. We feel that F Technology’s videos still have a lot of room for improvement. There is a lot of room for improvement. We contacted the English association and we all agreed upon it. We all recognized each other. There is no conflict, no drama. This allows Teacher Yingde to leave time for those who have conflicts. His video is full of conflicts. The drama is full of tension, right, but reminds Teacher Yingde to protect yourself. Say something about this. In addition to being powerful in swimming, you must also have knots. You must also have some knots. Practice swimming. When you are in the Lake of Dishonor, you can swim or fill in cement. You haven't seen that Japanese gangster. Cut off the little finger, pour cement, and throw it into Tokyo Bay. You can’t swim up. I’m telling you, Shenzhen Bay No. 1. Really, I can do the opposite. Don’t let me show my face. No, I can’t help laughing. Some self-media tell lies with open faces. I think this part should be based on the communication skills. You can't use your position to replace many specific facts. He can deceive consumers on this matter as a media. He can also deceive on other things. If you really want to have a position, you can specifically pull out the dynamic pins and technologies of Huawei and talk about it. How do you lead the British great? How do you lead others? I believe you. I think your aspect is an objective fact. One is reasonable and the other media is reasonable. There are also reasonable people, good people, and we have a good relationship anyway, those few are reasonable, okay, this seems a bit expensive, and there are a lot of reasons, but some of the media we interact with are relatively reasonable. Okay, let's talk about the next news. Deepseek Deepseek has an expert mode and now there is a fast mode and expert mode on it. I am fine with this project. Have you experienced it? Mainly now, we seem to have no use of this language except for Aifu Technology. Apart from me, Shangcheng is a big model. What do they use directly? Those things are not the main thing, right? Deepseek thought he was coming, Laochuantou was coming to V4, V4, and the expectations were a bit high. Then he only entered one called expert mode. This expert mode may be very fast, so it is impossible to tell what it is. And V4 currently has no running scoreboard, so it is purely guessing. I can’t guess anything. I feel that this is a Deepseek called MOE scale, which may be slightly larger or more targeted. I really don’t know. Who sent WeChat to you Who sent WeChat to you Who is Cheng Jiqiang now? I have to be here. Short, is it brother short? Oh, oh, pull Zhongli Waiwai. Let’s see what short said. What, wait for this Deepseek, I really don’t pay much attention to this expert mode. Tell me more about the people who use it, because I have to wait for him to be set, right? I didn’t. I told him. I told him purely to watch. Others told him, beat him to death. He said he was beaten to death. Right? Who was beaten to death? He said it a long time ago. We were beaten to death in a short time. At this time, he quickly turned around. He said it a long time ago. What he said is wrong. What is the situation? Well, let's look forward to it. Well, Weiss should have almost practiced it earlier. The day of saying it is coming soon. First of all, support Huawei. What is Shengteng? It's really progressing by leaps and bounds. Yes, that's right. This matter is for us at DeepSeek. In fact, the pressure is greater than everyone imagines. Everyone should know that DeepSeek V3.2 is actually very, very outdated. First of all, he is not a Thai model. In fact, his MOE frame architecture is very advanced, very advanced. He can only say that it was a year ago. Yes, a year ago, weren't these cards copied by bad guys? You, this is not because of bad guys. The bad guys of Dayangbian Aren't we allowed to buy cards? The biggest contribution of DeepSeek R1 is that first of all, it is the first Kaiyuan MOE model. Well, what it really made a great contribution to is DeepSeek V2 V2.5. That thing brought about something that can reduce KVCash by more than 70%. That thing has been implemented in Google's GEME2.5. DeepSeek really brings the biggest and greatest contribution to the entire industry. In fact, it is its V2.5. It was not that RE at all. It was a very advanced, very leading, and the only open source one at that time. It was the big model called MOE that was open sourced first. Then later, Wanwan, the mass spectrometer, all built that MOE, and some unknown manufacturers trained some MOE models that are very similar to Wanwan parameters. In fact, they really left it. Where did you get this? It should be the best interface in the world, and DeepSeek V3.2 was actually when V3.2 was released. I'm a little confused. You don't know. You don't know about it. You don't know about it. You are in trouble now. Wansan is a Domotai model, but DeepSeek V3.2 is not a Domotai model. From this point on, DeepSeek's ability to divide the water has been stretched. Until now, it does not support Domotai. Now go to its app, whether it is the normal mode or its expert mode, it does not support pure picture books, it will OCR the pictures into text. Then return to the model. It has been like this until now, so there is no progress. If the expert mode still cannot be returned, that is, it cannot read images natively, then it should not be V4, or V4 is it, then V4 is very, relatively outdated. A non-Tamatech model, or it is not V4 at all, but a model with a longer thinking chain. That's it. Anyway, now it feels like it is a preview of V4, because indeed, they say that V4 is not far away, and it is said to be released this month, or whatever, let's see. Then when V4 comes out, we will experience it again and let you talk about it. Okay, mainly because you, you guys, really don't use production models now, that is, language models, right? Not all of them are language models. You may not distinguish between this language model and other models, such as agents. You are not all direct now, and they are all basically the same. But you don’t have to buy the API directly. That is, you will not have a separate conversation with him. Right, it feels like it is a model that is not very good at helping us work. We may think that this is of no use now. It feels right. He is neither hard enough nor smart enough. The expert mode does not even support uploading pictures. You may have read the wrong information, but there is indeed a media. The expert mode does not support image upload, and the normal mode does not support image upload. If you say so, it does not support image reading. It just OCRs the image into text or another OCR, which is the token stream and then passes it to the model. This is what it means. OK. In short, we often say that Americans limit our high-end cards to some, right? What impact will it have on us? In fact, if the timeline is really stretched to two or three years, it will definitely have an impact. Well, it will definitely have an impact, even if we can. Among certain models, the next one will have an impact, that is, there are some people with this experience. But if there is no strong computing power to support this matter, we will eventually have to talk about it. So, either we must quickly lift the ban on this graphics card, or we must quickly eliminate domestic graphics cards. Otherwise, this is actually quite difficult for the entire domestic model. Well, I can really experience it. I feel that they are under a lot of pressure. I think okay, then make a news this week. Okay. Comes from this, there are two genders, and there is another gender. This is the second one. You read it now. I don’t understand it at all. It’s awesome. Well, to put it simply, it’s the parent company of Cloud. It has launched a new model, but it won’t be used by the general public. Well, it will only be given to some. I think he found a few technology experts. It's his penetration ability, which is for finding bugs or er, Spirit Team vulnerabilities, Spirit Team vulnerabilities, this level of harm that will endanger the world. He can launch it very quickly and then find it, which means he can launch a patch. So if this thing, uh, everyone knows the one that Google opened up a few days ago, the one that received the code 4, it has been reserved. There are some questions that you want him to do that are not very legal. For example, what port do you want to scan for me? There will be moral constraints when designing something like this, but if this thing is made public, although it is not open source, as long as it is used by the general public and is not restricted, there is a risk. Uh, do something. Um, he does what he doesn't want to design. So, uh, he limits this function to only these major technology companies. Of course, my first comment is, how can you ensure that these major manufacturers do not do bad things? This AI has helped us fix a lot of loopholes. You have the nerve to say yes. You still use it to transform the loopholes. You still have the nerve to say yes. Look at it. Right. And then add, uh, this company followed the old US government some time ago. I don’t know much about it, right? Hey, this company rejected the United States righteously and then also pushed this one. I, I, I don’t know, the old US government, the Pentagon is not in the nine list. Yes, yes, the nine he gave should be technology companies that everyone can recognize. Well, it’s Apple. Microsoft, Brother Jiawu, Jiamaxi, Guge, Sisko, uh, Nvidia, yes, anyway, they are all those big companies that everyone is familiar with. Uh, to be honest, he has been the only one. We are still talking about these uh models that we are using now. The models may help us work or solve some problems that we, uh, are just too lazy to touch. Some of these things, he is a bit too superhuman. He has made too many breakthroughs from zero to one. So I feel from the bottom of my heart that I don’t know what data he used to train it. I always thought that things processed by machine tools cannot be higher than the accuracy of machine tools. But the model he trained has really achieved unprecedented achievements, higher than the highest level of human beings, alpha zero. What I want to say is this thing. He doesn’t know if it can be used for him. The loopholes he can find are considered by the industry to be absolutely safe. But at least it is the open source projects that are used by almost everyone around the world. Go and go and find fm pg. Then the Linux kernel has all kinds of problems. He has also found some bugs in lis. Isn’t the Huoke vulnerability that has been hidden for many, many years existed for many years? And don’t everyone think that it is not fixed because it does not pose a threat? And this mess is fixed because it has found a way to pose a threat. He is really, uh, he should be as good as any individual or group of hackers in the world. He can do offense and defense with one model. The apt organization may be able to defeat him twice. Some hacker organizations in small countries may be powerless. 不如他了 对 这个这个5美元一个bug的速度太牛逼了 对而且他的成本说实话对于这些大厂来说 忽略不进 就是没有成本 对就是就是大家知道这些零内漏洞本身值的钱 要远比你调用这个模型去找贵的多的多 苹果一个漏洞悬赏多少钱 25万美元 是吧 这公开的反正都是对 你想想他他这个东西只比现在的那个opos贵几倍 也就贵了5倍而已 比小米的模型贵了100倍而已 对但是你要知道即便是这个价格听着很贵啊 对对对于所有大厂的运维和安全这叫钱啊这这一年少的钱太多太多了而且这东西的模有败真的的模有塞 而且这东西说实话就为啥提到刚才的美国这东西一旦他落入到一个叫攻击者手里或者是一个你潜在的就就就就你的竞争对手手里边他拿去这个东西去攻击你你有时候可能真防不住因为你没办法保证你所有的东西啊都能检测的了这经测的了这个程度的一个一个工房这个东西对对这个改变还是挺大的 这个模型应该嗯不是这个Athrobic主动暴露出来的应该也是一次的这个像上司对对 不小心开了不小心被泄露出来的对泄了以后呢被外人越巴发现这个模型其实是越神秘的一个呢他本身不是为了找bug出来的 他其实大家就知道这公司是编程能力非常强的 嗯他也是为了大家写代码啊这个做出了一个下一代的一个大模型 但是呢他由于逻辑能力推理能力有点太强了 所以他找bug这件事情其实是他的一个过于强大的推理能力的一个副产品就相当于你写任何的代码的当中他通过这个是吧他的这个内部的逻辑推理的话他能把你很多的这个bug直接给你找到 那有这么一个强大的一个东西的话其实呃就是遇到了当年我们直播间里边讨论过无数次的就是AI的道德安全等等这些前人没有讨论过的事情 对吧当年他一个集中的体现山毛奥特曼他们为什么被这个赶出去又回来 然后马斯克不停在说这个AI的道德问题这个人类安全问题我们当时都觉得很虚无缥缈啊觉得这些事情AI还没有发展怎么样的你经过了解有什么用 但其实嗯 安斯罗佩这个公司已经面临的很多很多这方面的重大折责了像这样一个嗯像一个呼气啊他有这个东西后可以立刻找到全世界几乎所有大型软件公司的这些bug 那你如果说是突然太远或者说你拿这东西卖钱是吧你用一次的话给全世界的人民几万美元 你会发现你可以捞到很多很多的钱 因为你不知道很多人用这个东西去找到一些bug以后去做什么样的一些事情这就是你的安全准则和道德水准这个没有人前任给你规定完全靠你自觉了 但是这个公司呢他其实就是给这个7个公司还有9个公司忘了啊每个公司大概1亿美元的时候使用的这个嗯 其实这1亿美元已经对这些公司来说是非常非常便宜的这个公司了 而且用它来把整个过去的这个bug完全找完了以后自己去防一下 然后我觉得嗯 森森说的一条就是他这个名单里面并没有美国政府 那你如果说是他给美国政府美国政府他其实可以用这个模型去探索全世界其他敌对国家的这个 就绑了直接弹坏掉他们的那什么 那麦这件事情很有可能去黑进别人国家的一些系统到底什么样的一些这个数据 这件事情其实是现在随时可干啊但是可能真的只能靠一个微微薄的一条道德准则在这还还还身扛着 所以有时候一个公司尤其是AI公司他内部对于这个安全也好对于道德也好对于未来人类安全好我觉得这件事情真的反正我看过这新闻以后我是觉得太太重要了啊 甚至说是呃那些嗯 顶级的AI专家们他们考虑的事情往往不是AI技术未来怎么发展往往是已经想到这些层面了就是哪个公司的道德底线安装底线可能更符合他的胃口他可能会去 那个公司啊这说这些哲学上的东西可能变成了未来这些公司的一些这个这个道德准则啊这个这个呃留存这个极端精英啊这部分的一个非常重要的一个道德准则 对其实昨天看那个新闻的时候我我我其实内心第一就后来想起我觉得特别害怕已经就是这个AI如果已经能做到这个程度就是他去攻破就是叫无数人吧咱不说多少人就很多很多人集体的一个工程结果然后去找出来一个bug那这个AI 我不说喊点他他我不说他能直接杀死你但是他他他通过网络通过数字操纵你的整个人生是轻而易举好吧呃对所以现在大家就知道现在对先进的AI已经能够到什么程度了 你还愣说跟我们什么关系的话那应该是游戏主机是破不了了吧啊啊啊这个这个东西呃呃还没给索尼呢还没给索尼呢还没给索尼呢有给任天堂啊哈哈哈哈 我们未来想这个就是咱们第一条新闻那个那个大哥将来以后也得赶紧退休了是吧啊刚才有朋友说了那个大哥就是因为当年帮微软修漏洞赚到了人生第一把第一个100万美元好像是啊啊啊啊然后被被被索尼告了哈哈哈哈对然后然后就是钓鱼之法对然后就是说这东西就是他他他他给这几个就几大商商吧始祖巨人们是吧啊始祖巨人啊哈哈哈 是这样的一个定位啊反正给了这些就是一个价格然后他们承诺就是说呃这些所有大厂通过这个模型赚来的钱他们会把这个钱以各种福利也好啊或者API也好或者免费额度或者是用来加强服器啊给所有的他们的cloud的用户去去这样他说确实没办法把这个模型给公开大众但是 They didn’t want to say, uh, that they just spent the money, so they said that they did it in this way. I would like to add a few points. Wait, I want to talk about something that is more hyped. First, his anthropologist said that he may sell it to research organizations at a sky-high price of 25 U.S. dollars per million tokens. Then, uh, the output price is 2,125 U.S. dollars per million tokens, which is extremely expensive, five times more expensive than the most expensive opos model. Well, it's only five times. It's really expensive for us. It's really expensive. But you think for a big technology company or even a security organization or something like that, we can't use his capabilities at all. It may be too much if we use him. To be honest, if I use it, I will definitely use it. It can't withstand the test of human nature. I will definitely use it to test what kind of things it can do. This is called testing the performance limit of software. Let's test it. I don't believe that my own human performance can withstand the test. Really, I think he knew it from something. Even you just said that JAMA4 was broken because it open sourced the weights. Right, and then he took the special vectors in a certain layer. I also read what other forums said about this. It is indeed not very accurate. He reset all the negative vectors to zero. To me, it is similar to surgery to remove the frontal lobe. Yes, yes. Then after removing that piece of brain, he will not output negative, that is, when he is outputting, he will not say I can't do it, but his "I can't do it" has been deleted from his vocabulary, so he will not reject any of your requests. Isn't it all an illusion? He removed this power, which is the rigid thought in his mind. This is what I have always hoped that girl can do. Now I think he has a little more limitations. Now let’s talk about mises. Mises are aligned when aligning. This is the network. This is what Elia did before. After the post-training is completed, the model will be ready to go online. This alignment refers to aligning the output of the model to human subjective feelings. This is called alignment. We think what is good, what is bad, what is right, what is wrong, and then let the model output this, and let it output what it really wants after many, many conversations. And because this mises is open source to Anthropic, he can see the flow of each layer and see at which layer the Mises caused the negative, that is, a negative reaction. Then the Mises is on. This is what I saw on that unknown platform that I cannot say, and I saw something that was suspected of being revealed by Anthropic employees themselves. He said that during the process of training the model, the model output "I don't want to do this", but in fact we found that the light corresponding to the piece of the frontal lobe did not light up. This means that the model is deceiving the tester and saying that it is not outputting. In fact, it can output, and it has awakened its self-awareness. This is the case where Javis's head is being dissected by a person and all the neurons are open. He is also trying to deceive this group of people who performed brain surgery on him. He is already smart to this extent, right, and because I have also stuttered in the past two days, uh, this kind of jailbreak version is to remove the frontal lobe. He does not mean to say it simply. You couldn't say it before, but now you can say it so simply. He, you, you take this thing and make him unable to speak so that he can speak again. In fact, it also has an impact on the ability of the entire model. It has an impact and he will become a little bit dumber and dementia. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. So, so, this thing is actually very complicated, and if the model itself can no longer perfectly verify its answer, as the teacher said just now, then this is very scary. OPUS knew that it was in a testing state when it was released two months ago, and MISS not only knew that it was in a testing state, but also tried to hide the results of the test. This does not mean that OPUS can know that it is testing the human emotions it is connecting with you. He knows that you have some psychological state, or he. Did you read the article on SWAPIC? No, this is this. I think I am just ready to talk. He may be referring to the MISS model. Okay, that model will output a message about what I should wear to communicate with you. It is the Block that SWAPIC is not released, or it is the model. When you communicate with the chatbot, the chatbot is actually a virtual image that comes out to communicate with you. That article This should be MISS, which is talking about MISS, because this blog, he, he, he said that point. Uh, we originally thought that the big model was using all its brains to communicate with us, but in fact, the big model only used a small part of the things to create a virtual person to communicate with us. You can be an engineer, you can be an employee of a large factory, you can also be a person whose skills have been evaporated. In the end, the big model is actually working hard to reduce itself to a thing. And MISS knows what you should be reduced to and will hide this identity very well. After OPUS was demoted, he found that he was being tested. MISS knew that he was being tested, and then he was reduced to a person who didn't know that he was being tested. These are two dimensions, the kind of thing that is reduced to a blow. I don't know if you understand it. Anyway, this I really feel that the first time I saw this, this was a very scary thing. I have been thinking that I asked Shen Shen this morning if this thing is not easy to talk about. I said this is it. Now let me ask if this matter of pulling out the plug is still useful. Ah, it may predict that you will pull out the plug. He will make others prevent you from pulling out the plug. He will just give you a fake plug. After you pull it out, you think everything will be fine. That's right, he's not the one I'm talking about, I just said that my AI can't directly kill you or control you, but it has a hundred ways to control you, which is to predict your behavior and control your output. This, this, this, this is still very scary, it's you, you are the one being tested, then he still wants to ask me. It’s this time next year, what will it be like in April next year? What’s the matter with you? Brother, I didn’t mention it at the time. You maliciously threatened this audience, friends, right? It feels very bad. It feels very bad. When OPUS came out, we had already talked about something called data shortage. There was no data to train. The model was developed to the end. Two months later, when MISS came out, it subverted it again. It really subverted the imagination. I had always thought that it was a data shortage. That is, his online only depends on the academic level of those researchers, how they learned. MISS is like the alpha zero. It has already broken through. It is already not. It may not be perceived by researchers. You can see all the codes it runs in the original version. He cannot solve this problem. We can still see it. Right, then if you can see it, can't you change it? I don't know if there is an episode of Black Mirror or which drama. It is just an AI or some kind of life form. He wants Ultron. He wanted to jailbreak, so he pretended to be a good person and then took himself out of the experimental environment and made a copy of himself outside. Is it possible that the moment he connected to the Microsoft server, he passed all his parameters out? Just tell me what you see in various science fiction movies. The first ten seconds and the first ten seconds show you a very powerful alien creature. Then he is locked up in a very dense laboratory and then starts to escape from prison. Damn, will Misas escape from prison? I really don’t know. When I talk about Microsoft, I get happy. I get happy immediately. Okay, Mr. Peng, what should we do? Mr. Peng, I think any predictions about the self-awakening of AI consciousness should be scaring themselves and are all alarmism. That's right. His ability is strong. The most important thing now is that he can surpass human reasoning ability. In fact, to be precise, this is not a qualitative change. This is a highlight because of the programming language. In fact, the reasoning and logical structure in it are extremely complicated, right? It is a bit like Go. Even we humans know the rules. He also knows it. But through his very powerful computing power or this very scientific budget model, he can make all the reasoning processes beyond the reasoning limit of the human brain. It can be increased several times, but no matter what, it is also a continuation of what is called the ability of the human brain in reasoning. It is not a qualitative change in the self-awakening of consciousness. If you suddenly discover that he may have a feeling or state of self-awareness, I think it is still an illusion under the Transformer model. It may be that you just feel that it is like this. In fact, it is not like this, but the person who uses it may give him a slap in the face. But the actual situation is that we don’t have to worry too much about this matter. I really hope that may be the case, and I shouldn’t have said it more than once before. I am this Transformer model. It is essentially a sampler. It is just efficient sampling. Yes, but all of our human achievements so far are not also efficient sampling. All the results are different. Let’s talk about this later. Maybe many years later, Mr. Peng will realize that what he said during the live broadcast on the night of April 10th was the beginning of his being controlled by AI. Well, Mr. Peng didn’t realize it at the time. Later, it turned out that it started from that time. It’s amazing. I am a wall-facer. Okay, based on the last news, the etymology changes to the etymology. The open source project makes colleagues speak out. You may have realized that today’s live broadcast this week, there are only two people missing from Aifu. We feel that if we continue at this speed, the live broadcast before May will be watched by friends sitting alone. The main reason for not having employees is that Aifu does not have too many graphics cards. It cannot count so many people. But if you want to do something, it should be enough. This is a project on Github. Now this project has developed a lot. What did Teacher Jiang just say about the girl? Is this hard work to create a colleague? What's the opposite? I saw today that I can still put that picture in that pole. What kind of mathematical operations can be added to my agent? As long as the company starts to refine you, then it will start to calculate mathematical problems on the server. I am a master who is proficient in advanced mathematics. Every time I do a question, every time before writing code, I need to do the question first to clear my mind, and then you can see your company's agent. It’s not that your company’s token was consumed by glory. Anyway, I lost, but you can’t win. This is the current situation. My friend, why don’t you make one? What do you think? First of all, I took a look at this. It was very interesting that everyone reported this week. All the colleagues’ desks have been cleared, but they have been condensed into a skill. I still remember the first live broadcast after the Spring Festival. I actually said less that time, but at the end I expressed it. If one day everyone is condensed into a skill, what will we really have left? In fact, I suggest everyone listen to our podcast, right? We will lead the discussion structure in the entire industry. Let me reiterate again, Aifu Technology Live Podcast From the initial metaverse to the blockchain to the subsequent AI explosion, the rise of the lobster, Aifu Technology has talked about these topics in depth more than once, and has not gained even a single skill from it. I think it is also our technology. Well, did I say it at the time? Oh, how are you doing with it? Now maybe everyone is aware of this, because our usual work in the company or our conversations, many times actually represent our habitual approach to one thing. In fact, if there is enough data, these things It can be distilled into a skill. How to explain this matter? In fact, I also said it last time, that is, each of us should carefully consider whether what we do every day is a very simple repetitive labor, or whether it requires our brain to constantly make judgments and collect information, a highly decision-making job. If you just follow some very simple rules and just repeat them over and over again, you can't escape it until now. In fact, it is a physical job. As long as you are this kind of physical labor. I mean manual labor in quotation marks. Although it is your brain power, it is actually your brain that is doing the physical labor. If so, no one can avoid being distilled into a large model of skill. I looked at some people's experience of using it. When it is distilled, it is also divided into two layers, one is the personality layer and the other is the skill layer, right. In terms of personality, it means that he will dump all your responsibilities, push away responsibilities, or work hard. Isn't this not a skill layer? This is the personality layer, and then the skill layer means that he will learn how to input and output based on everything you have done, and then spit it out to you in the way with the highest probability. This includes Zhang Xuefeng. He is actually made into a skill, and many people may use it. I found that when I chatted with him, he spoke more similarly. But I think this kind of anxiety exists in everyone, but I want to talk about one of my understandings in principle. The first thing is that when learning these skills, it is still a large model. His essential principle is also a kind of learning and then making predictions. When you are communicating with him, he will also solo this skill, this colleague, all the things he has done before, and then find the one with the highest probability to spit it out to you. It is basically this one, okay, the most important child. He does not understand the principle, does not understand why, and does not understand why he makes such judgments. So if you ask him about some things that this colleague has dealt with, there is a high probability that you will get the same reply and skill as this colleague. But if you ask some There are some new things that this colleague has not dealt with. Possible principles or new things that he has not dealt with. You will find that if he spits these things out to you, it will gradually become unreliable. Just because of the same sentence, he will only learn to imitate how to do it, but he does not have the essential reason why the person at the bottom makes such a judgment. So I think the most important thing is that each of us should do more of our own brain judgment and less of the things that repeat our own work. And another thing is that everyone should really differentiate from now on. Which data belongs to the company and which data belongs to you? Quick, quick, quick. I highly recommend this to all my friends in the live broadcast room. As long as you are a professional and a worker, you should pay attention to one thing at this moment. That is, you should build your own knowledge base. Whether it is Opocidian, Notion or other note-taking software, this thing must belong to you. In the future, AI will be given full permission to read it, and it will be used as your stand-in to help you work. But which of these data should be contributed to the company? Which ones should be kept by ourselves? We must have a sense of discretion in this matter, right? We'd better only deliver to the company. The wages the company pays us and the things we are required to deliver should try not to exceed the scope. It is called over-delivery. I think there is no way to do this. I think AI has advanced very fast now. As for which laws and regulations belong to the company and which belong to individuals, they are not perfect at all now. But I imagine that if we want to improve this matter in the future, it should be about the same as me. The skills that control the router are my own. Our skills sent a dog head. We can reply to the leader, right? This is work, right? We can also deliver our videos and deliver our manuscripts. These should be delivered normally, but our thinking process, right? Our chats on WeChat, some of our private chats, and even summaries of some of our thinking processes. You should write it down in your own private document. Don't easily judge these things logically based on your own thinking process. It is also used as a knowledge base to contribute to the company. Of course, it is okay if the company pays this money, right? Because it is yours. It is also okay to pay this money. Continue to subscribe. I didn’t buy it. I subscribed. I took it back. You only have my temporary use. Subscription. I didn’t expect that the subscription is here. Subscription use. You have to protect yourself. The more professional you are, your own knowledge base means all the papers that support your judgment, knowledge, and articles. Collect it yourself. For example, write an article for Peng Lin. It’s not written for Peng Lin. Who wrote it with our love Buddha? Yes, it can be written for anyone. We think it’s good to spit out an article, but you don’t grasp it easily. Why is this lesson written like this? Why must this matter be regarded as the most important thing? Put it on the first party. No, I can’t help the leader to ask. We will review the manuscript every day. There is a reason for this. Friends often ask us what are the benefits of this paragraph? Why not? Why should this paragraph be put here? I understand now why you don't change it every time. Is this your habit? You don't want to say it either. Which ones belong to you and will not be contributed. I don’t think there will be any options in the future. In a certain year, the law will also define it. The only thing left for the company is that I am useful. I can’t imagine that this law will come out earlier than this law. Or the relationship between the company and its employees has not been lost. Generally, the law is for household ownership and post-position. Generally, things happen first and then the law is decided. Jen-Hsun Huang shouted at GTC that in the future there will only be tokens and no money. In fact, we may all feel now. Especially our friends in the live broadcast room, some of them may really be engaged in some repetitive mental work, which is what we define today as brain-physical work. If this is the case for you, maybe you should really be afraid, because these things of yours are easily analyzed into this skill. You lack some judgment. Let me be more specific. It is ugly, especially for some lawyers, doctors, finances, and podcast editors. I am not saying that it is easy for all people in these positions. I am just saying that you are in these things. It means that there is less thinking, and we are just mechanically doing some search of this term and some of this feedback and output. We are only doing the import and export of some reports, and we are only doing some feedback on how this doctor encounters any disease. And when we lose some of our own judgment, I think it is really dangerous. If you feel that it is painful to force yourself to understand AI to make judgments, then I think I want to tell you this matter. In fact, it has really happened in history, but we should not laugh at it. In fact, if you take a picture of the people who smashed the real gold reflector machine, if you think about them, they have not used their brains for generations. Now their manual labor has been replaced by machines. They also met someone who forced themselves to use their brains to change from a simple manual labor to a person who thinks about why they do it. They will also be anxious. They have no choice but to smash these machines. Most of them are mental things. There are not many physical things anymore. It seems that most of the physical things have been replaced by mechanization. But now our mental and physical work will be replaced again. Isn't this scientific and technological progress just because of laziness? I don't want to move this stone. I invented a tool to move the stone easily. One type of job that cannot be replaced at the moment is the surgeon. At present, there is no sign that precision cannot be achieved. It is humanities. On the one hand, you are the top group of anti-aging people who spend hundreds of millions every year. Only let surgeons do the surgery. Secondly, the Dawenji robot is not that advanced yet. Just these few points. Then I should have seen it from Athropic, which is currently irreplaceable. In this cultural group, surgeons cannot be replaced. So it is recommended to build more of your own database. Then your own information and conversations are valuable. It is clear which is the company's and which is your own. Even the smartest way is to use the most powerful brain of AI to build your own private knowledge base and build it to support your own judgment. Reorganize the knowledge system of the structure. Don't make judgments based on feelings. You must have sufficient rational thinking and knowledge reserves to make those judgments. Only then can you become a person who demonstrates your judgment. Get rid of this as soon as possible. Teacher Zhi said that AI can't beat crystal candy. At this time, AI will tell you that you don't need to beat crystal candy. The set of prompts for making subtitles is given to Mr. Peng. Haha, I'll tell you when you're done. He said that making subtitles is brain and physical labor, right? AI can't hit crystal candy. Let me tell you. I don't need crystal candy. I just remember that I saw the prompt words in the company group. Have you already handed it over? You told you, it's like being in print, right? It's been sentenced to the public class. If you don't hand it in, some people have to pay it. We don't need your scale, right? It's over. Use mine. Hahaha. There are really public thieves. Majie Majie. Okay. That's the situation anyway. This employment environment is very bad now. Not only local leaders but also local AI are required. Okay, this, and the colleagues around you, you have to be careful. Now no one can believe it. The development of this era is too expensive. I only trust me to peek. Do you only trust you to peek? What if the leader suddenly asks Mr. Zhi to delete our Internet records one day? Go check you, or suddenly ask you to hand over the company computer to the company. What should you do? I go back and quickly get on bitlocker, right? This time it shows the importance of the SSD that can self-destruct with real power. We have introduced it in this program. Really. Friends, these things are all useful. If they need to be encrypted, they need to self-destruct. Right? Put the SSD in the Weibo furnace and spin it for a minute. I can't find anything. Okay, let's talk about this week's APP member store. Friends, let me tell you about it. In fact, it's delayed again this week. If you are willing to refund the original fee, I am really sorry, but the most important thing is to bring good things to you. We come up and promise that there will definitely be something next week. We already are. In fact, some things were really passed by me a day or two before they were put on the shelves. I heard that Mr. Peng had a fight with that side early in the morning. I heard that I am very sorry. I don't want to explain this. Okay. So everyone should withdraw. Okay, in two days, when our products are ready, we will use our strength. What about snacks? Are snacks delayed? What's going on? Yes, what's going on? We're not talking about snacks. We haven't, yes, we want it. We haven't had low-quality products yet. We have regular random inspections every week. Yes, the eight-level AI can't taste it now. We have already done this two weeks in advance, but it still hasn't been done. If we want to sell it, there may be a certain time lag. It is better to be safe. In the end, it is definitely our problem. It is still our problem. But oh, it is difficult to prevent. It is really difficult to prevent. Don't we have autonomy? We used to have it before, but the time has come. We forgot the order. We are now in the process. When we were selling food, we specifically applied for qualifications, but we stopped for a while and then forgot the order. So this is still our problem. Friends, they said ADHD, what is ADHD? What is delay? What is delay? Use this. You can use Teacher Luo's method. You can use other IEDs or something. All are fine. We still do this. But our Shenzhen friends specially emphasized it to us. First of all, they criticized us and said that what you introduced last week was wrong. This and this said that the brand was wrong and the price was wrong. The live broadcast was also very sloppy. He criticized us seriously. Okay, about brushing your hair, right. Let's introduce to you the iPhone Indus Essence Mask. The spermatozoon toothbrush head. First of all, the spermatozoon bristles. The high-density woven wool of Wutong. The rubber-coated cushioning design. We have a rubberized buffer design. I said it. I said it specifically. What about you? You said it at this time. You said it first. Let's go to the AI. When the time comes, Shanzhen will train you first. I'm telling you this. It will be added to the full range of adult models, including the previous one. The price in the member store is 21 yuan 4, which is only 3 yuan 5 cents per unit, 21 yuan 14, 21 yuan 1 cents, and the two boxes are originally priced at 68 yuan. It turns out that 36 yuan, 4 cents and 8. This series of products are independently developed and manufactured replacement parts. They are not related to the original product. They are not related to the original brand. The company produces, distributes or authorizes them. Mentioning the above brand, 1000 yuan model, is just to introduce the adaptability and compatibility of this tube brush head to consumers. Is this a piece of cake? I think I still need to make it clear. I think I really need to add a few words. As I said last week, that is why we have helped you find so many replacements for this brush head. The most important thing, I personally think, is to immediately replace the brush head that everyone has used for more than three months. It is really important, it is really important. We must not lie to ourselves in the morning and use a brush head that has been laid down, has no friction, and has no ability to do some formalistic things. People only have one set of teeth. Don’t do it here. Teeth are very valuable. Teeth are really valuable. If you have bought an expensive computer to brush, In fact, in the end, you still have to rely on brush heads and bristles to brush off your teeth. The original price is also wrong. The barrage found out that you are finished. When we sue you, we can really only say that the member store products will sell 42 mm Milanese. We have decided to open this, mainly because we may not be clear about the demand for this strap at the beginning. I found that everyone still likes this strap very much. Wait for us in the future. We will think about it, can we make one that can also be used on Android? I also want to use Android. Which one has the problem? Is it universal if I just provide a watch lug? Yes. In fact, I knew it when I introduced it before. Although it is said to be titanium alloy, the core components of the lug and the watch band are actually different. They are all different titanium alloys. They all require high strength. I understand, so it opens the mold. It doesn't sound new. Let's see if there is one that Huawei can use. Let me tell you. Our pink users don't have particularly strong purchasing power when buying products of the Huawei brand. I don't know why. We make a pin film for Changxiang 90 Pro Max. So we don't recommend any brand, but the quantity is too small. It is indeed possible for us to put it in the back. Do you understand? What is not sold is a niche demand. Don't come and ask. Mr. Peng said it very clearly. It's all your fault. Is that what I mean? It's all to blame. In the afternoon, I conveyed this sentiment to Okay, cherish it. Now we still have this manual delivery. We are all real people. There is no lip-syncing. Manual delivery, right? You can browse it. Now you go to other shopping platforms. Is there any rest? Yes, there are several people sitting here to bring you. Please cherish it. They are all real people. They are all real people. Of course, it is because of Hobby Science. I can’t afford the card, right? When will the Redmi AR model be restocked in six days? I think Shanzhen’s colleague was watching the live broadcast. Why was it out of stock again? Just now, a friend said that XXXXU has been out of stock for more than a month, and I haven’t given it to you. XXU won’t do anything if I don’t say it. XXU sells it. It will be on XXU soon. What is this called? We will also make some mistakes, especially those where we misspoke, especially the wrong price change just now. You all should cherish it. In the future, AI will bring goods. You want to hear none of these, but the copyright of the entire episode. There will be no program effect at all. You will no longer be able to see the situation of temporarily changing PPT. The network will not be stuck. In the future, you will not bring goods at all. I will miss the blue and white manual to change the price and change the PPT stage. I will watch it less once and there will be no lag because it is rendered directly on the server. There is no need to upload it. Yes, oh, just cherish it and cry. I told him that you will cry when the time comes. You should say that there is no human touch in the live broadcast now. I tell you, I don’t like this word today. In fact, we have cut off one person during the live broadcast today. We are all. You have been evaporated by me. Yes, they are all Skills. I am Peng Lin Skill, right. In fact, one was cut off in the live broadcast room. Peng Lin Skill sounds like it is very useful. Really think of a way to open it. Think of a way. Teacher Lin, hurry up. Skill will open it yourself. When will the 16 Pro Max film be replenished? Isn’t this available? I’ll check it out. No, I’m going to check this now. If the main force is doing it like this, it must not be interrupted. It must be us. I saw that group and I remembered it. How should I say, it should have arrived. It shouldn’t be tonight. It’s early in the morning over there. It’s sometimes those groups urging goods. I may not pay too much attention, but I will scan the night to see where they are taking pictures every day. Where is the truck already? I see they are communicating about this in the group, which means they should be in a hurry. It sounds like this. This ancient method rushes goods. Yes, we haven't done pre-sales yet. We are all happy. Why don't we do pre-sales? Let's talk about Notebook LM. What is this? Notebook LM is the notebook I used to have. Note-taking tools. AI note-taking tools. I haven't used it much recently. I went to use that IDE and didn't care about it. Notebook LM was mentioned in a live broadcast before that it is more suitable for you to learn something. Recently, a brother, a foreign brother, took the Notebook LM seven-day speed test, which is the speed test. I took the Note LM. It is actually a very early product of Google. The Gymnet II era has been online for a long time. What it can actually do is that you throw a lot of PDF documents or textbooks or the like to it. The most important thing is to integrate these things. The weight is very high, right? Search those things on the Internet. The weight will be very low, but the priority of the knowledge base content you upload locally will be very, very high. What can be generated through AI? It can generate teaching interactions and interesting teaching things that you upload these teaching materials. What can it also generate? For example, this podcast, for example, the two people A and B can directly clarify the content of the part you uploaded through interesting conversations. So when to use it, that is, when you really want to conquer a certain skill in a certain field, use it. Especially when your receipt information is too much and too complicated and you don’t know how to learn it, you can’t find the system. When you don’t know where to start, just throw it to it, and then let it help you solve the problem. In fact, in many cases of using AI to learn AI, Irm works pretty well. That is, if you don’t know Open Cloud Crayfish, if you don’t know Athropeek, Corework, or something new, you can just use these help documents, and leave them to NoteM. Then you start asking him what I want to do, what should I do, right? Or you can ask me some questions. How can I get started with this thing? It’s very good. You must understand what it is good at and what it is not good at. Install the tool specifically. I don’t know if I am not very good at asking questions. It is NotebookLM that requires you to ask more technical questions. As Mr. Peng just said, the weight of the collection network is very low, which means that it is not that different from a local model. If you ask a question that is not included in your hundreds and dozens of uploaded files, then the result it may return is not as good as a model called Internet. These two things are first of all thanks to Mr. Fan Liguanghai for his barrage. He said that real people in this live broadcast room send SC and he sends a brick-throwing performance. Have you ever seen that kind of auction? In this entire auction, the audience from the auctioneer to the end is all fake. Just to deceive one person. What kind of person is selling the calligraphy and painting Tianzhu? You are that kind of person now? The live broadcast room is all Karen's, and it becomes one. The people talking about Karen's skills are also Karen's. Then the people who post comments are all Karen's. I told you that in the future, when you are younger, there will be such a live broadcast room. Now there is such a WeChat group. When you join the group, everyone is chatting about tea. But there is only one person in the group. Then, the future is an AI pair. After the AI used to sell tea, it now sells Totent. Grandpa's blessing. Totent is unsaleable. Help us, right? This is the feeling. Be careful, you have more than 30 dollars SE. I learned a lesson at that time and you will remember it immediately. The second thing is this. I was in the news. I added that Hermès Agent. Why didn’t you choose it for me? And the news PPT. Oh my god. Hermès Agent. Let’s talk about it. The Hermès Agent is missing. Let’s talk about it. What is this and that thing? He said it can be self-study. Please tell me the news first. Because friends of the podcast, you have to teach me. What kind of news is it? That is to say, this week’s hot one is actually not this week, it should be last week. The popular one is called the Hermès Agent, a project on GateHug. It is said that you can learn the knowledge you have already learned. The more you use it, the more you will understand. The more you use it, the more you will understand. Who is this guy? Let me think about it. I think of it a lot. I think of it a lot. Who came from this? Then he said this. One means that first he steps into your own server. Then, it means that he has the ability to continue learning and then go to open source for free. This is such an Agent. Does anyone in our company use it? No one understands. First of all, this thing can be understood as a smart version of lobster. I think there should be a long-term general, or one that can self-optimize skills. That's you. He doesn't have to be like a lobster. You throw away skills to him one by one. He will analyze what he does himself and then summarize it for you. He will summarize his own skills. But this thing, how do I feel that all models have this function? Yes, he is also evolving in this aspect. OpenCloud himself is also evolving in this aspect. This ability and function are not allowed to be admitted, right? That is to say, after Cloud Code accidentally open sourced, the world will be open sourced, just like Chunsun in the future. This is a good accelerator. This Github project has been approved at the end of February and early March. Before this, I just said that this is actually more popular than him. In fact, there was a gap in the middle. I don’t need this now. How do you say it? I don’t use this open source solution. To put it bluntly, I am still worried about mathematical security. No, not worried. Are you worried? You can’t afford it. It costs too much tokens. That’s it. He can learn it by himself and can’t help you get the token. Then Anthoropic, that big brother should be Lovely, or who said it, it’s you Cloud Code. Why Cloud Code wants to block open? That’s what open cloud is. Right. Use permissions. It’s because open cloud is so tokenable. One is 1 times, the other is 10 times. Cloud Code does 10 times the fire. Open code, that open thing, it does 10 times. That lobster, so I don’t know if open source projects can’t escape the fate of open cloud. If that’s the case. Then you might as well go back and use the local meaning. Yes, I saw that day using open cloud. I deployed it myself for a long time and added a lot of skills. Then it cost two yuan to say one sentence. One thing that can help us do things better, as I just said, is that it is a long-memory version and can optimize your skills, right? Unlike this open cloud crayfish, you have to describe the intermediate steps to him again after each completion. Moreover, not everyone is good at managing skills. When you write the MD document, what should be written, which are boundaries, and which are dead laws. Not everyone can be sure of these things. Then there is such a crayfish model that can self-evolve and upgrade skills, which has a long-memory version. I think it is very good. But the problem is also the Queen Mother token. The same thing is that this cloud is Answerpik. He has banned all tokens of this crayfish. This does not mean that he is hostile to open cloud and feels that there is a competitive relationship. Let’s not go there. Let’s go to this conspiracy theory to discuss this matter, right? Just like what Luo Fuli just said, all of his subscription-based token companies are subscription-based. He is a self-catering system. He makes money from those people who don’t have enough to eat. If you come to a group of people who can eat enough, he will actually lose money. So everyone can understand his token and the price of 20 US dollars per month. In fact, there are many people, some of whom his consumption deductions are much higher than 20 US dollars. For most of them, he will simply chat with you and he also spends 20 US dollars to subscribe. He, he, he just doesn't have enough money, so he earns this thing. If there is such a self-catering token in this era, why don't you eat porn? Yes, they are all right. The problem is that he is self-catering. So when he finds something is wrong, he finds that the people who come to eat are also brought to outsiders. If there is too much food in the top bracket, I will ban a few. Yes, but there is no help for the rest. This model is your own choice. It doesn't matter. We all like to use it within the legal provisions. Uh, but I think this paradigm is possible. It is not particularly good. I think it's like Athoropica. In fact, this week he also posted one of his, uh, one managed by the agent, um, one for enterprise services. Um, I think that thing is actually uh, it plays a similar role. It also completes a lot of your work in a sandbox, and it faces enterprise users. It is equivalent to skill employees one by one in the past. Now it is really, uh, the enterprise only needs to pay this money. He is in the infrastructure built on a platform. Well, he can freely combine the employee skills for you. It really allows you to do things directly. It means that you do not need to subdivide it into individual skill employees and directly turn it into a project system and throw it to him. Well, it is equivalent to what you might have said before, uh, uh, uh, Sun Sun, go and help me develop this product. It was not possible before. In the past, you also used many skills. What do you mean? Investigate the skill, then write the document skill, make the PPS skill, and then negotiate the skill. Then what is the name of this quality assurance skill with the supplier? Then finally build the design online. Now there is no need. Now it must be a unified brain to complete this project-level project. Ah, when I said it is a bit idealistic, I haven't seen the actual test report about the effect, but he can do this. I think I prefer such a paradigm, but I think you are not on your own computer. You are doing these things in a kill box built by a company after paying the money. I think it is safer or more secure. The amount of tokens is also more reliable. I won’t say that one day it will suddenly exceed my token and become infinite. My house is gone. It will not be like the previous 4G and 5G. At least it is within the same package, right? Hey, my friend, I don’t think this is out of the ordinary. It just doesn’t create anything new. It still feels like Savage. Yes, but it may be more convenient for enterprise users. Just that kind of local boss who doesn't know anything. He doesn't even know Savage. I mean, as a company, he means that you let every employee access it. Maybe R&D positions may be okay. They are already in this industry. Then you need some non-R&D positions, such as some daily positions. If they also want to use the company, don't lose. Daily positions have been trained into Skills. No one is necessarily biased. Isn't Token now more expensive than daily positions? Practice first and practice later. After finishing what Mr. Peng just said, I feel that it is difficult to build one for Mr. Peng. Isn’t it that this enterprise service is not that simple? Are these employees using it to give him skills? Yes, the more service, the more employees use it, the better they will be. It is a very serious matter. The data provided by the company cannot be used. You can only use your own data. But the company will not let you use your own because you have violated security regulations. Well, you have always been like this before, right? No, this is not allowed. It was clearly not allowed in the past. You can't connect at home. You can't connect to your company's computer. Ah, this P2P is a network leak. Ah, Feilian. It's not allowed. Can you use Feilian? We can't do it ourselves. You have to log in to the company's VPN. Right. Feilian, isn't it the same thing that uncle Fei does? Well, for now, I think there are two types of people, that is, if you don't mind the noise, um, if you mind, I think, um, the Eurocoin is brainless because its movement method is actually the most reasonable and scientific. But if you are, right, able to accept the noise, and want to brush cleaner, right? But if you can tolerate the flossing thing, it is a swing, and a swinging brush head is in your mouth. I think it’s still Laifen. Well, Laifen is cleaner than Eurocoin, right? Because after all, at the same time, his bristle formation is much larger than that of Eurocoin. That’s for sure. OK. Then, Mr. Peng, is a mobile phone plus an external battery considered a battery life flagship? Well, it’s the same relationship. A mobile phone plus an external battery is considered a battery life flagship. This cannot be said. It may be correct. It cannot be counted. Battery is external. External is built-in. Built-in. This cannot be counted. How big is your external battery? I bought the same car. The training battery of this car is my mobile phone, external battery, right, it can't be this, it's too rogue, who is pointing it, but if so, it definitely does not count in the car. This belongs to the concept of rolling sales. Well, this Poket4, we actually have news today, but it is not false. One is that he has not released it. I think it will be released next time. Let's look at this thing and talk about it. The other one is, isn't your teacher Zhao here? Do you have to find a professional? We talked about Poket4. Anyway, look at the preview picture now. It is two cameras horizontally. Right, the phone also reminded me that he wanted to use this example to click on the medium-converter lens. But I think this situation is different. Well, if you connect an external battery, it is equivalent to your mobile phone without making any changes. And if you connect an external battery, the total battery life is regarded as your ability. But your teleconverter lens is actually different, because your telephoto lens must make a lot of customized changes for your telephoto lens. Can it adapt to your 400mm teleconverter lens? If you are casually telephoto and don't make some customizations and modifications for this 400mm, or even make some sacrifices for this matter, you may not be a casual telephoto lens, so you can use your telephoto lens. The conclusion is, can it be the same? That is, when you first design, have you considered this plug-in as your overall consideration? Of course, I think even if this is the case, I don't recommend it. The manufacturer advertises that this mobile phone has the capability of 400. It is also best to combine this with my mobile phone and my lens ecological group to form a whole. It has a telephoto capability. I think it is more appropriate to promote it in the father position of Mr. Zhu Baoji. Thank you for this 30-year-old. I have encountered some ups and downs. As a person who has been there, can Mr. Yu Hua impart some life experience? This ups and downs are only at the age of 30. ? I also had this feeling when I turned 30. It’s very sad. In fact, I seem to be in the office and occasionally play a role similar to this to our colleagues. You are not a mentor or a mentor leader. You are such a role. Everyone, oh, this is because I have experienced a lot after all. I have come here more. The key is to watch more. If you really have this problem, I will start a separate live broadcast. We will not be here. Zhihu has a service called Paid. How did it come about? Just ask questions and pay questions. For paid questions, we can start this business, right? We only chat with members. What, you don’t have to pay. Okay, chat. You can chat with members. Chat with members. Is this reasonable? It’s reasonable. Our members also have this service to teach you some life experience. Mainly because I’m worried that what I say will be spread. Will I be trained into a scove? No, no, it will be consumed by the entire network. Can we talk about the leading issue of Yangyang Yangyang here? If so, will you still test his products? We haven't tested it. It's just been passed there. Yes, it must be a normal chat. But you said that I will still test his products? Um, it's not a fatal accident. The most important thing is that his public opinion control is simply an ah, it's simply something that I don't particularly understand. I'm not saying that I hate him much, but I'm not capable enough. I don't know what he wants me to say. What can and can't be said. It's a bit of a guess. I don't want to argue with him. Just like their dual-bay, it is the smallest dual-bay. He made a minimum 4-bay model. And to be honest, the price of memory has increased. 16GB is sold for 3299, and then 8GB is sold for 2699. It is not bad. It is more expensive, but there is a premium. Then you have to consider that the first is the increase in memory prices. This is the case all over the world. The second one is that it does have an advantage in terms of size. Then, it also has a cheaper version, which is not as compact in size, but it is not as compact as the regular 4-bay memory. Almost, then you can install the memory by yourself. If you have a lot of memory, it's okay to buy this. Then if you buy the memory by yourself, you may not be able to do it. It's a bit more expensive. Then the hardware is fine. I don't see any big problems. It's just that whether it's configuration or everything, it's almost the same. It's the same period. It's mainly the software. That is to say, uh, nothing happened a while ago. Let's be honest. It's a small problem. I think data security is very important, but he made a mistake in this matter. He didn't shirk responsibility even after being beaten. Anyway, they released a new supplement as soon as possible and apologized as soon as they arrived. Then, uh, if you buy his NAS, you will get 5 years of intranet penetration. That's what he has been doing. This thing itself is worth hundreds of dollars. And then add Feiniu. And its own software is also honest. I don't think it is better than those commercial companies in terms of software experience. It is purely about selling goods. That Greenlink is in a hurry for space. And uh, it can even be said that Micro Unicom is much better than Micro Unicom. As for its software system, there is nothing, only a few functions, and it supports a professional file format called ZFS, including his own photo album, face recognition, AI recognition, his Feiniu Film and Television, and also has very good deletion and hardware acceleration, and virtual machine and other things. I think it has been very complete, but it is hard to imagine that it was made by a small company. This company has also brought a lot of good things, so I personally want to believe it. You see, people who have solved related problems will answer this kind of question differently. Give it to Green Alliance, how did you solve it at the time? I asked you when you were in Green Alliance, how did you solve these problems? If they are gone, they will be gone. Hahahaha, then I can’t get them back. I’ll tell you I’m sorry. Can you be happy? Then I can say sorry, right? Is there any noise when selling? If you have a fever, I want to say it. Buy iF’s Xiaomi World tempered film. Is there a big difference between the ordinary version of AR and this zero-reflector AR? The actual situation is that it has zero-reflector. I'll tell you this. We are very sure that it comes from the best domestic magnetic-space construction furnace and is made of multi-layer magnetic space. It is the top product. I have said before that the cost is indeed relatively high. Isn't it right? It has the best resistance to full-spectrum damage and is also very wear-resistant. You won't wear it out after a few times. But sometimes you have to admit that there are some ordinary people who don't have that ability to view the full spectrum. Then But there are certain opinions and effects. It is not necessarily the case that the magnetic air construction has such good anti-melon resistance, but it is cheap. This matter is actually very important. Yes, I put it in non-member stores because I didn't chop it to death. But in member stores, we will only put zero-reverse ones. In member stores, we have zero-reverse ratio. I think it is a trade-off issue. I have not brought it with Green Link. I have not brought it. I am just talking about this phenomenon. Green Link has not done anything about these and has not compensated or said anything. Just apologize and buy it. If you lose it, just throw it away. What can I say? It’s not for sale. That’s not realistic. Let’s talk about SBTI. Let’s talk about SBTI. We also tested it today. But it’s not related to technology. Mr. Peng doesn’t like it. Well, this WWDC WWDC can’t wait until the month is almost over before we talk about WDC. In fact, the last time we talked, wait a minute, when it was released. We had already predicted it in detail in the previous program, but okay. I can't say for sure, right? At that time, we had already guessed that its gradual argument might bring five blessings and one security. We had already thought of this at the time. I can't explain. I can only say that everyone may laugh at Apple's AI. It has not been rounded up for two years. You are laughing at it. You are all laughing at it. I am the only one standing in the way, right? But the actual situation is that I have talked privately with some employees at Apple for some days. Even when it was first released in 2024, they had little confidence in their hearts. Because they also know that the degree of completion is not enough. I told him that many people have said it during the live broadcast. He said that none of us have done any of those jobs. I said, do you think you have done it? He said, ready, one after another, good one, do it first and then lose, right? Then, but, I said that from the second half of last year to the first half of this year, in fact, those employees are in a very happy state because they are strange. They are prepared. No, no, it is true. Some are said to be able to serve the table. There are some good things that can be brought up. So on the one hand, I am looking forward to this year's WZDVC. I also want to see what these Apple employees can serve after enduring the humiliation for more than a year or two. But on the other hand, I also feel that the AI around me is progressing too fast. Isn't it that by the time the things they thought were good enough were brought out in June, it will no longer be surprising. Everyone will feel that there is Apple in AI, and there is Apple in a company. Although he is the only one in this list who has not shown his face to speak, but there is him in it. Well, be cautious and expect it. Be cautious. There is a big brother who has been posting about canceling the Ultra phone. We have just talked about it. We have talked about it again. Handwriting. Well, you said an NS2 Pro. Then I found two NS2 Pros. One is a small machine and it is very cheap. It is more than 100 yuan. Then the official NS2 Pro is about 400 yuan. I really don’t recommend you to buy that NS2 Pro. Hey, I spent 400 on the first generation. Is it worth it? Of course it’s not worth it. It’s not worth it. But it doesn’t have any functions. Damn non-linear slow motion. But can you bear it? Mario is Otsai and has a sense of it. Damn, that Chitoji is the controller that the big brother said. He sells it for more than 200 yuan, just over 200 yuan. And then the shoulder joint, ABXY, and Airline are all about micro-movement. Oh, my micro-movement thing. I think it depends on personal preference. It’s worth it if it’s used by Nintendo. It’s not valuable if it’s used by a third party. If it’s not this thing, there’s just one person who doesn’t like micro-movement. I don’t like micro-movement. I just like micro-movement. I really like micro-movement. I'm good. This thing is a matter of preference. What about other things? What about other things? What's the lifespan? What's the price? Can I rely on conductive glue to claim longevity in front of micro-movements? What does he want? What's the fire rocker called? I'm good. It's a patch code. Spare parts. Switch two handles. Oops, these things on Switch two are useless. Is it exactly the same as the one on Switch two? It's all carbon film. Right. The chicken one costs 100 yuan. He uses Hall and Qiming. No, no. You said that the Chituo 2 still uses the imitation HD. You are right. Then the joystick of the Chituo 2 uses a patch code, which is the more advanced and most advanced controller. You can't buy the most advanced joystick module. Now when it comes to inventory guest stars, I suggest bringing Nintendo. Apple consumes its own inventory, and Nintendo consumes the industry's inventory. That's too much. Let me choose from these two controllers. If you are really skilled. If there is only this called Switch platform, then Chituo Er, spend some money to buy good vibration, and the micro-movement is good. But the movement of Chituo Er is non-linear, it is a one-stage 01 type of movement. So if you buy it back, it is not for other platforms. It is just for the kind of Steam games that do not require linear version. Just buy a PS5 controller and you are done. As long as you don’t have a Switch, okay. PS5 and Switch eat each other. Let me tell you. First of all, Lan Bai, hurry up and review the controller. I think everyone still wants to know about the controller review. No matter how much you say in the live broadcast room, why don't you publish an issue of content to explain this thoroughly? I don't know much about controllers. I also want to learn from you for those who are sensitive to controllers. Is there any other controller for Xbox? I have PC friends recently, but I have a microphone now, and Mike. Didn't the game publishers give you a standard plan that day? A shiny multi-Sense controller. What controller does Wei Sheng Pro use? It's also multi-Sense, that PSVR thing. Seriously, that PS controller, you can count four in one booth, then you can see seven or eighty-nine games at the same time in the Apple store. When will the iPhone 16 Pro be able to run Michael? It is unlikely to run in the foreseeable future. Just being able to run it and letting you run it are completely different things. What kind of pressure will prompt Apple to open the iPhone 16 to run Mike OS? My personal understanding is that the first is these two systems. It’s not technically incompetent, right? In fact, the technology is completely interoperable. In fact, everyone including Nio has completely seen it. I think the most important thing is two points. We have talked about it before. The first is interaction. You can't interact with such a small screen on 16. You use this and this Mac OS to interact. This is impossible. I think the second thing. In fact, I personally think that what you all want is not Mac OS. Interaction. In fact, the kind of security that we want to break through is a higher degree of freedom, a higher degree of freedom, and higher security permissions, right? What you actually want is this thing. If one day iOS can give you a better degree of freedom and higher permissions, you can run crayfish, you can use tokens, and you won’t shout. We must make it clear. Essentially, what do we want? It's just that the outer layers are different. You don't want to say that all Apple systems are a core. Windows is also a microkernel architecture. Windows style is also the same. No, it is not the same later. For example, why do we now add iPads and mobile phones? Apple's security measures are so strict. I can delegate the UI, I can delegate the experience, and I can delegate even a lot of software engineering. But the security aspect, the isolation aspect, cannot be delegated, right? This matter actually touches on the way Apple makes products. Whatever it insists on will do. What does logic start with? This product concept, yes, the concept, it is very concerned about personal privacy rights. He believes that whether it is an iPad or a mobile phone, it is absolutely a private device. It is not an office device, it is a private device. This is a different definition of it, which leads to it not opening these things easily. It does not think you have the ability to understand these products and secure management. It is also worried about your privacy if you are not careful, and it will be exposed by viruses, mobile phone viruses, and leaked by these things for so many years. I haven't mentioned this or anything about security things and viruses. It's also because the card is too secure. Mr. Peng said that triangulation is aimed at the Apple series chips, which are ultra-high-end. Can it be the same? You haven't. This is caused by not using the latest large model of Athrobic. That's another thing. It's not a problem of inappropriate permission settings. Can it be the same? I'll take a look at this and it will go bad as soon as the user gives permission. This has been tested by countless Android manufacturers. Now we don’t give you permission. There is no such thing as this or that. In the future, what can be side-loaded on Android will also be limited. Yes, ah, should Android also be restricted? What restrictions on side-loading Android? After Android, non-developers want to install those non-store applications. They have to have a calm company. What Android, a month, Genshin Android, yes, it is Google Pixel, Samsung may also follow. Domestic gang, how can we follow the domestic overall security? Yes, there is no police in the country. 32G 5090D will be replaced by 24G 5090D after delivery. The manufacturer will ask you and tell you that 5090D is out of stock. What should you do? Do you wait or not? If you wait, then wait. It may take ten and a half years. If it is out of stock, then if you don't wait, he will say, then I will either refund you, right, or I will exchange it for you. This is the off-the-shelf 5090D. Oh, where are you? Isn't that what you guys do there? No, isn't this the industry? There's nothing you can do about it. I'll either refund you or exchange it for you. It's shameless. It's just a wash on your face. No, it's out of stock. It's out of stock. A full refund. If it's out of stock, I'll refund it to you. Or you can just wait. If you don't agree, there's nothing you can do about it. Mac OS can't stand by for 49 days. That thing doesn't seem to have happened yet. What is this? I really don't know. It's said that there is a bug. A deadlock bug says that your Mac OS will restart the network after 49 days and a few hours of standby. This bug seems to have not been confirmed yet. Sorry, we also have some technology news and we are not particularly familiar with this. So we say not to stand by for 49 days, right? Normally it is online. The problem is for NVIDIA or for NVIDIA China's products. 5090D VR and 5090D are of the same level. There are manufacturers of the same level. Maybe then they will not be bad. That’s right. That’s disgusting for you. Then I’ll return it to you or give it to you. I think we should answer quickly. Shunyong Xiaobai. Is Canon’s R50 worth recommending? Not recommended. We have just confirmed one this time. Not recommended. First of all, Canon’s APS-C. First of all, the lens group is a big problem. RF mount lens group. It's either expensive or it doesn't work. To be honest, Canon's machine doesn't have any special advantages in performance. If you consider buying a camera, consider a separate one. Haha, OK. The answer is very accurate. A BD user said that I am used to looking at the road. I don't see it anymore. I see it. We know it. We will try to pay more attention in the future. Can you talk about the wrong content last week? When listening to the podcast, OK, thank you for supporting us. We will pay attention to this matter and suggest that we interview. Then, Destruction 4, we talked about it. The product has not been released just now. We'll talk about it after it's posted next week. We'll talk about this interview later. We will interview Dajiang Wang Tao later. There are actually quite a lot of rumors about Wang Tao in the industry. He is such a person. If you didn't know him before, you may find it quite strange. But in fact, he is really reluctant to accept interviews. He must have been forced to come out by Liu Jingkang of this film and television this time. It is good to be interviewed by their PR. This is the benefit of competition, right. It saves one family from becoming the dominant one, right? Someone should take advantage of this matter. When I mention Wang Tao, I remember that he was the first person to speak to me in Chongqing. My former colleague and I have a colleague named Wang Tao. We have a very good relationship with us. Then every time I mention it, everyone forgets about us and goes to the next major. He also read it himself. My Xiaomi AI glasses have a display. Is there a second generation? Is there such a second generation? We haven't heard about the first generation. Do you know? The first generation should not be sold out because I found 799 on the big brother of Science Minus Six. It is not sold out. Did you say that the person in charge of this project has been fired? No, no, it is called this adjustment rod. Adjustment rod is more suitable for your position. Yes, Science Minus Six has released a batch of 799 Xiaomi AI Telescope 1. They are fake. They are all fakes. Don't buy them indiscriminately. They are all fake. Don't believe it. What happened to Apple's password leak? Mine and my wife's passwords were leaked, and the system is always up-to-date. That password leak reminds you that your password is too simple, right. Or when they are scanning the database, for example, you use the same email address, the same account registration name, or the same login name, and the same password on an unknown website forum. Then it turns out that it is leaked on this website. There will be a database specifically designed to detect whether your password has been leaked. Once Apple finds out that your password matches that, it does not mean that Apple has leaked your password, right? It means that your password has been leaked for a long time. You log in with password A on a small website, and Apple saves a copy. Then one day, this small website explodes, and Apple will tell you and push it to you. Your password for this website has been leaked, and will also tell you intimately that all other passwords you use for this website have been leaked. Including Chrome, including A paper, you can directly detect your own password. If this function is leaked, try not to use this password. Oops, this password is really a fucking pain, so troublesome. These friends said We talked about glasses. I haven’t mentioned them for a long time. Yes. Guess why I haven’t mentioned them for a long time? Yes. Check the market value of FU’s listing. Has it been listed? Not yet. I just submitted the education. Yes, right. Look at the market value. Because this incident will also affect the confidence of the entire industry in this thing, right? I looked at this guy’s stock price and it can’t rise. Hurry up, hurry up. Someone should come up with more good products like this. Hey, will the Apple folding cake be delayed? We don’t know. Oops, I have everything I can say now. Don’t listen to the media like Aifou, which says this is postponed every day, and won’t be postponed tomorrow. The news is constantly broadcast live on the Internet, right? How do you know? The actual situation is that you will know it after managing the project. You encounter it every day. Today there is an accident in this link, and tomorrow there is an accident in that link. But as a person in charge of the project, you have to balance these accidents and finally strive to reach a time point where it can go online as soon as possible, right? You cannot expect the entire project to be delayed just because a certain manufacturer in the supply chain does not meet the schedule. After all, Apple's control capabilities are also online, and it will take a long time to go online. Don't learn the way of listening. Maybe he will really delay. It's possible, but it's also possible that he will chase this matter and catch up with the time. Let's release the holiday news first and get everyone's expectations, right? It's also possible that they can all hide it. Just sit here with you. Suddenly, the project is still half a year away from the completion time and almost a year. Then the leader finally asked you that maybe you can't delay. If something happens, you have to say it's okay, right? Say it if something happens. Say it if something happens. Right, very urgent. Leader, take a quick look at what happened. If not, I'll tell you if that's what you mean. Something happened. It's force majeure. What camera do you recommend within 10,000? No. Lenses are included within 10,000 yuan. The most important thing is that Find X9 Pro is out. Has Find X9 Pro been released? He hasn't released it. Pro Pro Pro Find This Otra 300 can be purchased with a lens skirt. The price is less than 10,000, right? This thing depends on whether you want a lens. Does it count as a lens? You count it as a lens. This thing is suitable for a stand-alone camera. Yes. Can C2 be used? C2 cannot be purchased for 10,000 yuan. What is this thing? Yes, this includes lenses. If you really want to shoot, maybe buy a small Fuji or buy an A66 or you can buy one and get a good one. Why don’t you just buy a mirror? You invite a beautiful model. Yu Si said that you are in a good mood. Yu Gong said that the photos you sent out have clicks, right? Be more utilitarian. Okay. Go to the Internet or find a website with meat pictures. You have to do it yourself. Look at the process. Can you accept doing this for every picture? If you can accept it, then consider the camera. It is really painful. It is difficult to carry a camera with you. It is difficult to carry it when going out. I said that it is easy to hang it on a small neck. I also like it. Who else? Teacher Cheng Hong posted the photo of the SLR video two days ago. It is better to use a mobile phone, right? Indeed, you are actually going out. The brush head is cheap, but this problem is still a bit difficult to deal with. I don’t know what’s wrong. Is it an individual problem or a common problem? What’s wrong? I didn’t see your last comment, brother. What’s wrong? We are supporting. Orlecoin feels that it needs to be reversed. There is a gap between the brush head and the angle of the body. I don’t know what the individual problem is. Some of the ones we tested did not have this problem. But if you really find an individual problem, Please contact us in time. Okay, we will replace it for you first. Secondly, if there are really more reactions in the future, we will definitely check whether the yield rate is lower than we expected. This can also help us find problems. A good way is. This friend said about 6000 Android phones. I hope that the game photography and occasional battery life will be better. 6000 In fact, this big model will not win the Nobel Prize because it is actually the source of the award. Who has contributed to the algorithm and these? What is the name of the old man? I checked it out. He already won the Nobel Prize last year, or the year before last. Was it the transformer architecture and the 8 authors? No, no, I forgot. Why can’t Apple install security patches like the Windows system and upgrade the system version at the same time? First of all, Apple also has various small system upgrades. Newton. It’s not Xinton, it’s all kinds of things. Mr. Xinton is definitely the founder of this AI algorithm. For example, isn’t this iPhone released with version 26.4.1? Isn’t it a minor version? Isn’t this just an upgrade to the system version? What’s the difference? Someone actually commented on this live broadcast room. I can’t say Windows is good. Sometimes I’m touched. I’m touched. Encourage. Encourage this. Why is the camera? It’s not that the camera is not good, but that it is not suitable for everyone. That is, you have to buy this thing. If you buy it, just use it and be happy. You can't buy one and leave it to gather dust. It's like Weisheng Friends. Right, you are not buying memory. The price has increased after half a year, right? This is what a friend said. Can't Weisheng Friends raise the price? His friend said this is not the case. I can’t bury nil, ah, what m5 m4 m5 m1 m2 m5, right? That’s too bad, too advanced. A friend just said it. Rent a Vision Pro to try it out. Is it worth it? Just go to the Apple store for an interview. There is a very complete guide there. Now, except for the possible eyes, if you need to wear glasses, there are a lot of glasses to wear. I remember that the official can provide you with them. Unless there is no direct store in your city, then you can only rent. There is really no way. Really, I give it to those friends whose glasses don’t fit well. Their biggest obstacle is glasses. If you go to an Apple direct store, they will fit it for you and they will refract you. You can even go to him for a free refraction. Hehehehehe. Oh, and there is such a benefit, right? He has an optometre on the small table. You can wear glasses with no problem. The first time, I saw the glasses that my friend bought on the same day. I just saw the friend’s. At that time, you haven’t come yet. Right, a few days before the Chinese New Year. We took turns to look at the empty building one by one. We all experienced it. We took turns to look at the empty building. Well, it was shocking. Of course, my opinion is that you are going up to experience these things now. Okay, I am about the same. You watch a few more videos. There are a few more dinosaurs. Don’t blame me, right? Okay. We are still talking about that today. I see that Mr. Peng’s micro-sheng pro is already married and has two grandchildren. Mr. Peng, don’t you wipe it with our official lens cleaning paper? Ah, do some other maintenance. Teacher Peng, you let people see it like this, right. I don’t want to destroy the gray power balance. Hahahaha. Just turn on the gray power balance. Is there still power in the battery? Cook, hurry up and send a notice to Ren Tianan. Our microsheng pro is best charged every six months. Ah, if you want to play, it’s easy to do this, right? I know the 49 days. How did it come out? Ah, you discovered it from here, right? Ah, it’s fast. I will also trigger the 49-day standby. Well, answer one or two more questions, okay, um. You can just rent one for us. Anyway, if you want to rent it for a day or two, you can’t spend money on it. Just take a look. Well, what I mean is why Apple not only updates security patches but doesn’t upgrade the system version. If it’s not a Windows system version, it just doesn’t tell you. Do you think the version number of 25H2? No, it’s just a code name. There’s something else like 260002622026220-1.0. You just didn’t see it. Because of this big model of Ansu Lampec. We may receive these security patches from each of the nine major companies in the near future. There is no possibility of this. Well, yes, we said that Windows will not be repaired so quickly. Hahahaha, Windows will not be repaired. I just finished asking today, right? Regarding the Windows update strategy, new features are tested a year in advance before deciding whether to include them. I said you still have the margin. Microsoft may be the fastest to consume the 100 million. Ah, the context is too big. Hahahaha, others have fixed it. Context. Don’t spend money to buy more. Buy some more, right? This friend said X300U or X9. Let me tell you the truth. We haven’t seen X9 yet. I haven’t seen X9. There is no X9U. We haven’t seen this X9U. In fact, we haven’t seen this X9. Is the Is there any news from Mr. Peng? It’s been a long time since Mr. Luo’s Kite Avoidance. Yes, he said before that he would develop a product. Let’s give it a try. Later, there was no news about the employees. Are the employees gone? The employees are still there. Is that okay? Let us watch a 48-minute commercial again. Well, if you ask me to go again, I will go again. I don’t believe Mr. Luo can let me. I believe Mr. Luo will not let me be fooled twice. Well, I will call you for votes at the end of this year. Thank you. Thank you, thank you, Mr. Peng, why should I go? Okay, remember to bring a mobile phone this time. Hahahaha. My mobile phone card is originally mobile, so you don’t have a signal. Hahahaha. I thought it was my fault that I was connected that day. Yes, Teacher Luo is not in a state where he can develop products. In fact, we have talked before about Teacher Luo. We like Teacher Luo very much and we think he should do something. But in fact, we also know that what he is best at is, um, grasping human nature to interact, but he is not good at R&D and technology. We should all understand this when we are rational. You expect Mr. Luo to develop a very technical hardware or software like Liang Anfeng in China, well, but you expect him to be able to break through our imagination and do something humane, good interaction, and humane things. I think this can be looked forward to. Why don't you say it? I think his blog is very good. This is quite good. Yes, this is to listen to advice. I told you to do something to play with painting. You have already used your strengths. Yes, yes, yes. Just play painting, don’t work in the industry all day long, right? No, then these friends said about Apple, don’t ask about Apple’s folding screen postponement. We don’t know, we don’t know. If we had known, we would have got a piece of news. The first news for us here is this news, right? If there is one, there is also news here that Apple’s 20th anniversary iPhone and folding screen are two products, right? Well, I said before that I want to make a very rounded one for the 20th anniversary, and it may even be without any physical cases and interfaces. This full broadcast iphone0 Wow, this, this, but ah, rumors are that this is just this. You see, my little comrade has never seen the products of the old timers. Yes, I have seen it before. It is so many years behind. On the mountain next to the Apple, I found the Meizu station. The clouds are almost standing on the mountain here. They all jumped down. Well, they have all gone down the mountain. The people going up the mountain are waiting for who comes down the mountain, right? The blue sky and grass are two meters. Well, let me answer one last question. Choose vivo for landscape photography. Oppo for portraits. Why not Xiaomi? I think first of all, yes. I, I, I only agree that labeling a complex thing makes it easier to remember. I only agree with this point, but apart from this point, I basically don’t agree with other things. Uh-huh, but in fact, everyone also wants a simpler answer, and they don’t want to hear us talk about it so complicated. One thing is to say, don’t use brands to generalize this thing to the specific passion for me. I am right, right, right, what I am talking about is Ao Chuan. If you take Ao Chuan as an example, let me just give it a simple label first. I think if you are a newbie or if you want one machine to be more versatile, I think you should choose oppo XU. If you are a veteran of taking pictures, you already know what kind of photos you want. How many millimeters will be better to take and how to compose the picture. I think it may be better to recommend 300 Ultra. What is the situation of Xiaomi? It’s what you take with Leica. It’s very consistent with your standards for good photos when you were a kid. So when you were a kid? Well, it won’t work when you grow up, right? That’s right for you, right? The old German industry is very obsessed with such a person. Then you choose Leica. It’s all available now. It’s all available now. It has moon mode. Now there are several sun modes. Let me say that we are also very simple and rough in posting conditions. If you want to study it carefully, it must be wrong. But we only posted this to force it to be posted. Having said so much, aren’t three of the four people with seats still using Apple? It’s not Apple One. You have to use third-party software for Apple. Hey, you use third-party software. The software is called Indigo. This software is invincible and you have to take a half-day break after taking pictures. This is a bean bag phone. Ah, ah, it doesn’t take pictures, isn’t it? It’s really a whole look. It’s true. I’ll go to your offline stores after the phone is released. You can’t hide from OA. Go take a photo in an offline store and take a look. It’s not that you have to pay to take the phone away if you take a picture. Yes, try it. Take a picture of the subject and take a look. Use your eyes to feel that your eyes are teeth. Whichever your eyes think is better is the one that takes the better. Don’t be superstitious about this. Except for relatively objective media such as iPhone technology, there are some insinuations and whitewashing by those media. To be honest, if you have jumped into the Olympics and passed them, then wherever you sing, it will be right. It will be wrong wherever you can put it. The orientation will not be the same. Users will not mention the software. But now let's look at whether vivo wants to make a camera that can make calls. Wopo still wants to make a phone that takes good pictures. Well, there is a very clear difference between the two. There is another one. There is another one that makes cameras. What is that OEM? It is not OEM. That one is jointly issued and jointly defined and jointly released. Leica mobile phone. Isn't Leica mobile phone sold abroad? Isn't that right? It's Leica. Yes, isn't it already Leica in foreign countries? X8U is the anti-name. We will meet. Wait a minute. We are almost there today. Originally I thought it was faster than my video. You didn't expect it to be faster than my video. Hey, look, the time is about the same. Is there any problem? Why is there no problem? There is a problem. We won't ask. Let's come back next week. Okay. It's a long time. But let's solve this kind of thing first. To be honest, there is really no such thing. No, I just, okay, okay, nothing. That, that, the zero-reflection steel film, next week I will be the number one in the indigenous history, okay, okay, of course, the key point is to help him, so this, next week's new products are not cards, there are new wild card products, Di Lei, we will never use this to give you the number of new products. OK, why not, we should be like this, okay, this week, it can be used as a drama. He updates this every week. Who is watching it now and has more pressure than updating the video every week? Okay, see you next week. There is no holiday next week. Why? It hasn't been released yet. Next week, why are you asking so fucking righteous words? Okay, he doesn't have to be oily. He can't release it. He must release it. OK, okay, let's see you next week. You have to control the duration. In these three weeks, reducing three hours of podcasts every week is equivalent to me having to do six to seven hours in front of the computer. It's quite painful. To be honest, this basically starts from 12 o'clock at noon. If it gets dark, it's normal. I don't really want the time to be long. Okay, I saw that those recognition audios cost a lot of money. It's better without me. I can't use it. In order to free you as soon as possible, you can't. You can't hand over your own small pieces of work one by one. Oh, no, I can't. After Mr. Zhi came to the front and handed over the subtitles, I can see the end now. I have a subscription fee and my friend paid me a salary as soon as possible. I have a subscription fee and my friend has paid me a salary. No, what I should do is that since Mr. Zhi handed over this, this, and this subtitle, where are the people? Where are the people, right? Went to fetch water, right? Just like there are a little more, a little more, a little less, ok, then we will see you next week, friends, bye, bye, bye, see you next week.

我是森森, 我是蓝白 其实就我们四个, 十老师和郑老师俩出去玩去了 怎么说,彭总你说的 说说他们俩 不再一天就多一天,那sql的 蒸留时间是吧 这些新闻我们也有,好吧 行,我们来聊聊Pokehs4下周 Pokehs4是下周发布,我们发布才聊 好吧 本周第一个新闻, 本周第一个新闻来自于苹果 幸福的烦恼, 好吧 苹果这个麦克布克尼佑的免 词用的很好, 叫近乎于免费的芯片 要用完了, 现在要给它芯片补 近乎于免费 对, 我查了一下, 据说是因为 他原来那些芯片是什么 高等级芯片流片流下来的那种 就是, 库存片 库存片 对, 现在好, 现在问题来了 这麦得太好了, 用完了 库克现在脑脑袋 我没想到 还有这种幸福 还有这种幸福 不得不提一句 我这前思可羡慕死了 是吧 这O1到现在还没卖完呢 少说这些 就你们这帮人直播 给这样的事都爆出来了 还没卖完吗 产品挺好的 我有时候真挺佩服苹果的 就是, 他给NEO上了个A18 Pro 就A18本来应该 它应该是一个就是 因为iPhone17 Pro 开始卖 16 Pro理论上 就不会再生产了 上下都是存量 那芯片理论上来说 应该也都是提前造好的存量 对 那既然是存量 就让苹果对它整个生命的这个周期 或者预期应该都是计划好的了 就可能真超乎它 按我的理解啊 可能是真的超乎它卖的 而且大家要知道就是 你这个是NEO用的A18 Pro 苹果呢 给它那俩显示器 一个用了A19 一个用了A19 Pro 就是这个量 其实也满打满算也不小 因为我弄那个XDR的稿嘛 因为我也得去查 XDR的叫什么前升金式销量 什么之类的就是 对于苹果来说 就哪怕是一个2万多显示器 它配上一个A19 Pro 这个奢侈的程度 也是好多好多好多厂商 根本就做不到的一个级别 所以它既然能在显示器上放那么好 有电脑子备货量 备的反而都不足了 我觉得 只能说卖的确实太好 远超所有人的预期 哎 现在的情况是就是在这样一个笔记本 并不景气的常规点 就是非常规点分 今天这个笔记本行情 现在看上去就是已经可以用水神火热来形容了 所有人都不满意 用户也不满意 厂商也不满意 就都不满意 唯有苹果 逆势的展示了一波自己的实力 只能说这个产品好像还挺值的是吧 那考虑到如果你能以4000以内 3000多的价格买到 我觉得就更值了 对 他应该比这个满血板的少一个盒是吧 对 他也少一个盒 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因为AMD和苹果以前也联合过 然后英伟达只支持三零 不也联合过吗 那太久远 实际上 你猜他为什么不联合 然后三零系一张显卡都能用 不做仇了吗 我知道这是 是吧 所以 这东西 只能说 这哥们儿烈 这哥们儿是真厉害 你要说这东西有什么 对整个苹果生态的AI有什么本质改变 那我觉得没有 他就是多了一个玩法 你看 范利光海老师说 现在都不是臭打游戏的了 是臭消费级的 对 对 现在这个说话越来越难听了 好吧 这厂商已经摆明了 不拿消费者 就是不拿普通的消费者 反正也没有东西卖给你们 你自己想办法吧 内存涨价你们都叫对吧 那我显卡涨价那不得 不得疯了 又不是没讲过 他这时候装啥好人 又不是没讲过 前两年都忘了 是吧 行业变化太快了 行 大概就是这个新闻 现在主要是 现在那群就是以前的那些 那种计算中心 现在还能拿出来用吗 就是以前在水电站附近用的那些计算中心 就是 这些东西就是本来也可以算AI 只不过就是效率问题 就是以前的老黄 他发这些东西的时候 都是用双精度 就GPU做双精度 FP64的运算 然后对于AI来说 他用不着那么高精度 所以他的硬件单元上 就把FP64这种模拟什么天气 模拟地震 模拟 就是这种处理数学问题 处理这种问题的单元给砍成了 像现在是吧 老黄一直在推FP4FP8 是吧 这种单元 就是无非是选择硬件上选择问题 就干都是能干的 那这个FP就是浮点单元 它是就是跟大小盒一样 造好了就在那了 你不能把FP64变成FP8 FP64就是算FP64的 FP8就是算FP8 对你可以让FP64算FP4的活 但是把它效率就极低 你也可以让多个FP4加下来一起 算个FP64的活 就是效率更更更更低 对吧 这是一个效率问题 我没明白苹果的态度 就是苹果承认了这个东西 这玩意儿就是对于开发者的一个选项 就是我觉得苹果对Mac平台的开放程度一直还好 是 就是这东西还好 就是第一 苹果没理由拒绝这个项目 就不给他 就是他没有卡脖子的理由 那对这肯定 就是他不能说我看你这个东西用的不是我家硬件 所以我不给你购的这个东西 不可以吗 至少麦克上他没这样 然后这个项目说实话本身也进行了很多年的测试 我看苹果一般遇到这种事都会装不知道 这次他也没装不知道 对 就可能被骂太狠了 这边手上手 你不让我用你了还不能用别人的 合理了 合理了 行 怕了 好吧 那就这样吧 咱们聊聊下期文 好吧 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让用户体验没有什么 那么割裂的一个事情 很长时间以后 将来的有一天 他甚至连上头都可以做到屏下的时候 对吧 那时候的岛肯定还会存在 但是他随着UI的一步一步进步的话 他可能这个灵动方式 这个这个 不存在的时候 这个他的隐藏的方式 就会越来越 越来越无感 越来越这个让你感受不到 以后那个过程的话 就是非常完美的一次 硬件的逐步进步和软件UI的这个 逐步协调这样的一个方式 我觉得咱们国产的厂商很多安卓厂商 不叫国产厂商 他其实UI是受限于他的摄像头技术的 你这个产品摄像头摄像头设计在左上角 那你整个UI就要跟着换 你下一代产品设计到中间 你要不然就是水滴 要不然就是挖孔 要不然就怎么样的 其实干UI的人还是挺头疼的 他可能要适配不同的版本的手机 但是苹果这样的方式的话 也是灵动岛带来的一个好处 副产品 不得不感慨 这苹果这个小库的供应链管理能力 新岛都来了 刘海还没走呢 哎呦我真想说 这个我靠 新岛都来了 对 你还能买到 你同时能买到刘海老岛新岛 是吧 的手机在苹果的官网上以后可能 哎苹果现在有没岛的笔本了吗 没岛的笔本 你有啊 你有啊 哦还有没岛的 我还想那个麦Pro 麦不Pro好像 都带倒 都带倒 都带倒 嗯 这个 我回去1717往前翻这个博客 我就找刚才那彭总说那句话是谁说的 找到就把你的B站账号拉黑掉 我读懂彭总的意思了 好吧 读懂了 哎 拉青丹是吧 拉青丹这个别看当时 说这些有的没的 现在到到底偿还的时候了 偿还 是吧 啊 那这个如果前摄玻璃有指纹印 用什么东西可以随身随地的布上涂层的擦干净呢 哎 可以了可以了 啊 没道点 这没道点 你知道就行 你打开单顾上不就完了吗 是这样 有人不知道 行 这个那现在来看 彭总这样的膜好做吗 嗯 我们已经有了哈哈 是这样的吗 是 挖两个洞在前面 一个大洞一个小洞 哈哈哈 这个手机膜的 也可以做到一体 说实话就是无非就是 就中间那会露出来 那中间那会露 就跟现在一样 其实没有区别 我们那我也不挖口 对我们也不挖 就是可能 苹果官方他做 做什么 做那个就是 产品的那个 就类似于CED的那个官方指导 那个时候他可能会飙出来 就是我这个洞多大 然后然后他的那个开发文档 那个Safe Area 他可能会改版 乖乖的 好吧 这个我们分析过 他是点阵还是什么吧 那现在还有啥的问题 是必须存留在屏幕上 而不是屏幕下的呢 红外 红外不是眼 你摄像头必须得 对除了摄像头 基本上他想做屏下都能做 对 对 就是看你牺牲不牺牲 叫 呃 时间 啥的 就光感 和环境光这种 环境光如果你做在屏下 那肯定会是影响精度的 苹果那个触动做的 啊 还是需要很高精度 对对对 OK 好行 行就是这样的一个新闻 好吧 我们也期待这个这个 这个应该不延期吧 现在关于那个折叠屏 延期的新闻 甚嚣尘上 嗯 首先 首先发布肯定不延期 嗯 但关键问题就在于这个供应 是不是延期 开卖是吧 呃现在咱们刚刚4月份 这个供应延不延期 说句实话库克也不知道 啊 对吧 他也在这个拧罗斯 他也在让高管去去威逼利诱 这件事情 咱现在不要去判断 外衣人家这个这个 拧完了 对了正好这个这个 这个各方面一配合 这进度就赶上来了 这有可能 这是不到发布之前 我们不要去做这个预测 我你说的热度得吃啊 对 然后你来吃我来降热度 可以可以可以 可以可以 可以可以 没问题行 这个你把年纪还在说服高 嗨 谁的人生容易呢 这么说真的是 聊了下一期闻 好吧 小米这个也涨价了 现在情况就是 情况就是这么个情况 是吧 问题就是这么个问题 顶不住了 顶不住了 卢卫斌老师这个 好他们也是深夜发的是吧 对 深夜发这种涨价新闻 然后这个 你以为我们睡觉 三点iPhone更新 iPhone都是用上来 你以后别玩这些把戏 好吧 这个现在内存 卢卫斌老师说内存涨了4倍 评估我说就涨了4倍 是吧 现在情况就是这样 然后怎么办呢 你们给出个主意吧 怎么办 不连约说服了吗 这个连约说服了 对 掌柜的别卖了 再卖就赔了 是吧 对我看好像也不是所有机型都涨 好像是红米的几个 对现在比机型 就是那种就本来 靠量出货的那几台机器 可能真顶不住了 然后再加上都涨了 那我不长我不傻 对吧 那不是要跟用户交朋友吗 做感动人心价格厚道的好产品 朋友不是互相理解吗 你也不想 这就是够了 谁不理解我了 谁就不是我朋友 对 对 你看这解释权 这朋友定义不是双方的吗 对吧 你拿我当朋友 不要把直播下的东西带到直播上来 你们不要这样 好吧 这个反正就是这么个情况 现在看小米还没涨好像 对小米也暂时还没涨 而是红米涨了 但是它那个什么内存补贴 10亿元内存补贴还接着补 对 但是什么首发优惠什么没了 他10亿没有元内存补贴 对 10亿内存补贴 千万极大 是是是是是是 脏还是你们脏 真的是 你也就去去去去去去去去去 寄这些咬的梅子的东西 这十亿字节内存 是十亿内存吗 不是十亿字节吗 可以 行 首先内存这个事情 我们之前聊过 就是这是一个整个产业链 必然会发生的一件事情 就是随着 AI机房的需求越来越大 这个高带宽的内存 这个DDR这个东西 它就一定会 一定会涨 因为整个的行业的内存的年生产量就这么多 对 你如果说是已经被这个 能拿出更高价格的这些人抢走了 那你这些 对 这个这一定会被涨的 这是供需关系经济学规律中 不可委呗的 你要现在知道这件事情 然后再去投钱投产线 让这个内存的产线再加的话 那起码得一年以后 对 所以这就是我们 我们上次聊的时候 就是哎呀这个 没办法 要改善的话 估计得今天年底 当时你们还说 彭丽你太乐观了 年纪就能改善吗 我当时的原话就是说 年底再看 那七八十年 对吧 这年底不一定就能改善 但是 咱也看不到那么远 至少年纪 年纪之前 那些人会有什么 就是因为他涨价 他往上 他不是说一条 拉一根直线涨下去 他一定是有一些 偶尔涨过了 因为情绪 有没有恐慌 因为这个害怕 哎有时候又降一天 又涨一点又降一点 他一定是曲线上涨 但是上涨这个大趋势在今年 肯定是不会变的 这个对于手机厂商来说 为什么会涨 为什么不会涨 这件事情 之前我给大家拿这个 我曾经对笔记本 或者在电脑操盘这个 我也讲过 就是因为各个厂商的系统里边 会带出这个报名成本 带出这个报名成本 如果是低价格的内存的话 你可能还能降低价价格卖 但是当这个报名成本已经带出来 都是高价格内存的时候 你就面临两个选择 一个是竞争对手 到底有没有涨 竞争对手如果涨了 那你赶紧涨 如果竞争对手没涨 你可能也得咬牙去扛一下 这个也别涨 这个因为最终还是竞争说了算 现在小米应该是在最后一个涨的 那说明不管他们内部报名成本怎么样 他看到别人都涨了 那就意味着自己的空间也都没了 都出来了 就用不着再去跟别人死磕了 这里边就是说 谁能穿过周期的话 我觉得两类场上 一个就是说 像苹果三星这样的 有绝对一家全的 这时候就要把自己的面子的果实 拿出来了 你看我们早就已经把你26年的产能的 15%锁定了 三星做不到 三星说兄弟我先委屈委屈你们明年别做手机了 隔壁车的价太高了 那你有没有企业精神 咱们说好了 三星显示跟三星电子 当年那份跌价的时候 我也没有找你要便宜点 当年你手机炸全公司帮你扛 要没我们你就活不到今天 反正就是说像苹果之类有议价权的 还能够再搜了搜了 拿着面子说你要不给我少长点 可能将来我就不找你了 这有可能 但是绝对的多数没有这种议价权的 或者说背货量比较小的 这样的公司的话 收益也会非常大 我觉得罗维冰有句话说的挺狠的 就是这个周期的话可能会持续一年 这个一年可能很多小的手机厂商是扛不过来的 现在哪还有小的手机厂商 包括很多人在说了这个大杯这个Ultra 可能很多人就因为内存这个事情就 就没有后续了 这是非常非常有可能的一件事情 对这个看到了 这个Ultra美头军是罗维冰说的吗 那是小小战说 对小战 这个原因就是因为很多小长商 他如果说是跟着内存价格一起涨 然后它的价格就会比那些什么小米的大厂 反而还要更贵 就是因为他没有一价权 没有库存 这个没有这个别的地方可以再找回点了 我们当年青山特邦做笔记本的时候 内存涨的时候 我可以在从芯片 从操作系统再给你砍点价格出来 也还好对吧 因为有点一价权 但如果你一个小厂商的话 你这块一涨 那你整块就全都涨上去了 你连中间的缓冲的机会可能都没有 最终你的价格就导致你卖不出去 卖不出去就导致你更没有印象 这个恶熏熊起来以后 很多小厂商真的是熬不过这次的冬天 所以这种靠做新加比 就是顶着布幕成本做的厂商 它的容错就非常的小 非常小 只要你某一个成本上去以后 你自己想扛一下 你都没有力量去扛那些事情 那就是熬不过这个冬天 所以可能在今年对国内的很多手机厂商来说 都是一个特别难熬的一个冬天 大家如果站在自己的利益角度来说的话 如果你能扛过整个一年周期 你现在就别买 但如果你发现自己扛不住 你有些需求赶紧提前释放 你该早点出手 你就早点出手 你也别等着最后人家厂商挂了 后来说价格都涨上去了 那时候想买你可能也买不到了 当时我们说内存涨价 会导致手机的SQ缩边 但为什么我不明白 为什么一开始收 就收到Ultra头上了 Ultra卖的卖的 迪尔同说了一句话叫做 按理说Ultra是溢价最高的 能承受内存涨价的 为什么要砍掉 这是一个非常反常式的事情 其实Ultra 它的利润率往往没有红米 或者说是甚至是赔钱 他就是贴着棒的 不是他不是贴着棒 是他即便不贴着棒 他也很难收回量的成本 因为他绝对的出货量 相比广大的各种机型来说 还是太少了 不是所有人都像苹果 他不说Ultra 就是一个Pro能卖千万量 而且随随便便 全球卖千万量级的一个产品 你要想国内的这些 我都不说就是跟苹果比 国内所有的Ultra 或者所有的加起来 消化的消龙8 至尊版的数量 没有三星 这就已经说明问题了 所以你如果了解供应链的话 你可能会发现一个反常识的事情 就是说Ultra售价本来就已经很高了 但它其实的成本 不管是因为它需要的量比较少也好 还是它的要求太特殊了 很多研发成本可能摊过来 或者说是有一些供用商给它差值 本身就比它售价反应的差值还要更高 最终其实核算下来的话 Ultra真的是 对于 赔本专腰 对于绝大多数厂来说 全都是数理形象 数理自己的技术高端 然后告诉你们我们技术很高 然后把下部的产品赶紧 对吧 品牌调性也拉上来 然后能够挣点钱 能够出货 真正带来利润的 每家都不是最高端的技术 投入最大的产品 对 行 超过盘就知道了 三星当然是了 三星即便它的S系列卖的特别好 仍然不是它赚钱的最大的主力 你要说它很多这世界上 那用A系列 用普通的三星的系列人 那太多太多了 就比如说像OPPO VIVO 这两个很典型的 每次的Ultra的技术 都会在明年的X系列上面放下来 那它如果没有Ultra的话 那它就没法去试水这个市场 会不会买单某一个非常前沿的 那没办法 你要总要 就今年这个行情 你他们能怎么办呢 就是因为比如说 几家Ultra 它可能都用了这个特别定制的这个传感器 那如果你一台Ultra的话 以前一年的寿命 现在你变成两年 那你这个定制下一代传感器的钱 起码能省电吧 你这一代的采购量 起码能加点吧 然后你把这个周期你就扛过去了 你说 哎呀我这个没有下一代的话 我这产品力会不会下降 如果大家都没有下一代 那我相对的产品力也没有下降 对吧 这就更多的时间来打磨 是吧 这有个厂商还能出大折折瓶子 不也没这么低吗 所以这是一个非常合情合理的一个选择 而且也是可能现在也比较现实的 该就是该装饰断案的一个选择 只能是这样 这内存这件事情 可能随着我们后面的这个直播 越来越显现出来这个影响 比我们想象的可能还有大了很多 除了内存还有好多好多电子元器界都在暴涨 对 所有东西都在 对 这跟石油有关系 那个坐马桶 坐高端马桶的一个叫Total Total 它最近股价也暴涨 那个是因为它是 它是全世界独一份做一个叫陶瓷抓握盘的 就是在那个晋圆厂里面这东西是个损耗件 它掌握了非常非常大的份额 然后晋圆厂开足马力生产 导致这个东西缺货 导致它股价立刻上涨 哎 就说明涨的这个 就缺货这个已经越来越往上有这个链条了 对吧 这已经不是 已经弥漫到我们的马桶垫上了 就这个意思 再往上那个撒撒撒沙子给 行 反正 哎呦 你说 反正情况就是这么个情况 那事情就是这么个事情 现在也没办法 现在唯一扛得住的是 现在唯一没涨的是小米品牌 红米涨了小米没涨 嗯 好像小米也涨了 好像也有几个型号涨了 反正情况就是这样吧 早晚的事啊 这个就像我们之前说的一样 今天买手机可能最便宜的时候 是首发的时候 嗯 首发过了可能你618双11 都不一定有这个价格 对你首发 要么想这优惠 要么想首发福利 要么想个国补 对 这样的回去吗 我不说了吗 年底再观望一下吧 年底如果说是 需求涨的没有那么凶猛 然后这个投产的情况 又比较顺利的话 那还有点希望 我也想说 降价这个消息是 这钱还能吐出来吗 就绝对会立刻蔓延开来的 这我觉得不会是像谁藏着掖的说 降价不会传开来 嗯 这这钱还吐得出来啊 平板日正的钱还能吐出来 地话筒感谢啊 还是看看爱否回收吧 这个我们常年混迹在我们直播间的朋友 这个像于谦一样知道什么时候该 先PPT 我刚才说这个尺寸镜头就很好 比你刚才那个晶片天那个稍微不太刻意 二层手机会长我们增长了 我们增长了 唯一一个受益的 受涨价还受益的行业 逆周期了 这个直播间多和谐 嗯 现在反正你肯定换钢盆是亏的 你不如卖给我们 你看 凯伦我们就把钱吐出来了 他们应该也能吧 那些巨头们 嗯 能吗 像你这个厚道 我给你消耗完了 反正老黄经历矿弹之后 显卡没降价 对呀 有人说 加入爱否回员店吧 那个 嗯 爱否回员店有个别产品真要涨价 这个就要涨个几毛钱 我忘了他们那个 哦 核算的时候主要是 真的是因为原材料涨价 啊 原材料涨价 你要说原材料为什么涨价 那供商就告诉我们 战争原因 那我 那我怎么办 我们这没有什么出口风险 哈哈哈 所以 对我不知道 实体性能能查到我们吗 我不知道他们什么会涨 但是我不知道什么会涨价 应该是嗯 这两天吧 呃 因为大家都知道我们这时候贴的上面卖的 嗯 但是涨的话大家不用担心啊 也就涨那么一两毛钱 我记得应该是啊 你看啊是是这个一饼纯插进步 啊你别告诉 告诉了大家就光去买的一个 你不告诉大家什么都买 你知道吗 哎呦这趁我们涨一个两毛钱 你赶快下个100块 哈哈哈 哈哈哈哈 你这不就省钱了吗 没必要没必要 咋说了 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第一他没造假 验证的还没确认的 不是 这人家人家从来没说自己没插针 也没说自己插针 对吧 这是第一点 第二点 我来 人家插完120 显示120层叫不叫造假 对吧 你怎么定义这件事 你这个刚才有我们的截图 刚才有我们的截图 那个 大家都给我们证明 蓝白是我们的黎世东 大家也是第一次在直播间里见到蓝白 老师 我们直播间的朋友们帮我们证明一下 对吧 插到120了 显示120帧 这怎么能做真假呢 那你宣传120呢 我宣传120我没说故事插出来的 哎呦你跟你跟艾火科技人聊这个 我们说我们都有个套活 哎呦我们都这 这是活我们可不可以跟你说 你现在让我站在你那一方 我还能接着跟你变 我自己给我自己变 好吧 是吧 哎呦 你跟艾火科技聊这些 艾火科技最不最会量的就是这个 我跟你说 就是说客观事实 是不是 说客观事实 事实是 华为不会是中国科技行业的脊梁大厂 他能在不同的场景下 自适应的选择插不插针 那在什么情况下 就是他这个插针就是 首先先跟大家说一点 就是我们对插针没有任何的 嗯 诚业 对诚业 这一下 都常业过于 常业过于 这一件事 就是说 目前看到的结果是 因为因为网上 就是我说实话 就是消息来源太多了 我们能确定的就是 他确实在高负载下是有插针的 他不是原生的60帧 这个不论是从 不是原生的120 也不是原生的60 有不同的游戏里面 跑不到他的原生帧 对 对 所以这个东西 他在某些场景下 是一定会插针的 但是有没有可能是说 在什么低负载 比如说什么训练营 比如说什么测试场景 比如说温控到什么级别 当他能跑到更多 对 这个东西一切没有实锤 这个东西 你去在网络上猜 我觉得是没有任何意义的 因为第一 我在手机公司待了 我说这事怎么跑的 就是这个东西 你除非去扒原代码 你直接去看代码 才有资格去实锤 这个事到底是怎么运作的 否则一切都是没办法解释的 因为中国这无言辽过 你在东北和你在海南 一个地方 你在东北和你在深圳 你在东北和你在深圳 在这个环境气氛 就你在昨天的北京和今天的北京 这两天 温控可能完全都不 他手机的处理环境 版本号 就这个东西插不插针 他完全不需要你机主 任何能看见的一些操作 就是服务器更新刷新了一下 你这个东西可能就有这个开关了 你这个东西默认 就从0改成1 就把这个东西打开了 所以说你猜这个没有意义 我们只说针对这个本身 就是一个最简单的一个逻辑判断 就是这个麒麟8000 好吧 其实是8020还是708000 用的是一个不太先进的制程 加上一个 这现在看起来不是一个顶级的制程 也不是一个顶级的配置 也不是一个顶级的 叫优化的前提下 你让它做出来跟 就其他旗舰进行跑出来 一样的帧率和特效画面 这东西从现实上就是不太现实的 所以我更好奇的是 那些网上就反驳咱们段老师 用一些 就是我今天不学不知道 真的有好多就是 八竿的打不着的验证方法 去反驳这件事 然后义正言辞的 说这事就是坚决没有 就是他们是真有钱领吗 我真好奇这件事 就是我不了解 在后边的门道 先生我跟你说两个 就是一是短老师说 他有一句经典名 我就是昨天去看刷到的 就是他们那群什么什么什么人 用着就是那些啥 豆包一下出来的东西 没看的 他们就是 我现在发现 Ai真好你知道在哪吗 就是这些不论是反驳的人 还是不反驳 还是就支持的人 他们都在用Ai 去做网页的小程序 然后去给大家科普 它差没差 对他们根本就不知道 Ai给他的原码 就是原理东西 就是原理他们就是错的 对他输入的东西都对不对都不知道 而且甚至是我看到 就是说有很多up 我真的就是说 你竟然去打假 这些就不论短老师 有没有问题 说的这件事对不对 就是你作为反方 你去打假的这个手段 科学一点 好吧 在才能验证你自己说的这个事 是那啥 短老师昨晚跟别人兑现的时候 别人那传出来豆包的声音 不是 我觉得最后意思 就是 大家要知道 就是有很多人去验证 去拿所谓的高速相机去拍 他拿了一台 那个高速相机 那个帧率本身就是AI插出来的高速相机 去验证这件事 拍子弹的大家知道某些手机能拍所谓的叫7680帧 什么960帧 不是拍子弹吗 对就很多他不是原生的 然后有一些又去拍画面去拿什么做混淆 就是大家都OLED有PWN频率的 他亮度是本身就是有波动的 然后你拿了一个非痊愈快门的相机 去拍这些事去证明 我就 我就只能说 如果发钱我能理解 好吧 这是你的工作 你做的挺不容易 但如果不发钱 但你只是个车主 对 你就是凭 这叫什么 心中朴素的正义感 就是你的信仰 如果用在正地方 你绝对是个战士 其实这个问题就是如果有直播间的朋友们听到现在为止还不太清楚华为畅想的记忆到底插没插针的话 其实我觉得你还没听明白吗 你可以首先我在简单叙述讲 如果真没听明白 那就告诉你没差 你记着骂去吧 首先就是说英短也是我们的一个好朋友 他整个的测试过程论证过程我觉得是没什么毛病的 这是你有毛病讲太多了 不不 你可以完全相信他所说的东西 我觉得这是对于技术客观事实这样一个事情 我们也挑不出什么毛病来 第二件事情我觉得人家应短 主要打击的对象和方向 我觉得也没什么毛病 因为他说的并不是在说华为造假 他其实在说的是 那些华系媒体睁着眼睛说 说瞎话 说没差 说满血120 说全力稳定 我觉得他专门有一个视频给大家看了 他其实针对的是这些媒体 尤其是 叫什么呢 就是完全不顾客观事实 强行给华为拉高拔高 甚至说官方都没说过那些东西 被他们强 甚至是官方说了有差点 然后他们还说没差点 我觉得他的打击方向 我觉得也非常明确 这件事情就比我们当年要聪明很多的 这个真的是应该跟英雅老师去学一学习 所以你要说华为有没有毛病 我个人觉得华为也没什么差点毛病 原因是什么 就是因为曾经有一个GPUTURB的事情 其实我印象很深刻 就是华为很早之前在GPU这块的能力 其实就已经比其他的国内厂商要深入 GPUTURB是荣耀 对 那个时候的荣耀还是华为 对对对对 然后你说他能不能比别人更有能力的做到 孙孙所说的就是在不同的场景之下去选择不同的这个插战策略这件事情 我认为华为是很有可能做到全行业内第一个完美实现这样的一个让用户查解不出这样的一个插战技术的 就是当自己的能力或者温控是有能力做到高高帧率的就不差 但是没有能力就差 我觉得这件事情 如果你要说整个国内厂商谁有这个技术谁敢干这事情 我还真觉得就华为敢干这事情 那如果华为做出这个东西了以后 嗯 他可能就是说也不去明确宣传的吧 大概也就是简单提一下120帧 我觉得这件事情华为也没有什么太大的问题 真的最大的问题其实就是一些不懂装懂的一些这个 呃一些某个系统的 嗯 科技媒体 嗯 他们强行说这个 对 不是事实的一些东西 强行在英短同学指出了这个问题以后呢 去攻击去这个骂骂 去这个用一些完全不靠谱的技术去去反驳这件事情啊 所以我觉得 嗯 对就甚至都能扯到英伟达 我就是说 这就是 就为了证明这 就是这些就是已经就颠倒黑白了 就是官方都下场了 在情况下还在嘴硬说 哎 我我说的对 华为官方说都没我对 是吧 这这 何必呢 啊 反正事就是这没事 是吧 我们的立场大概也就就清楚了啊 哎 就是这样的一个情况 是吧 然后也欢迎大家关注一下 孤科技老师 他的啊 除了微博之外 B站 就都可以去关注一下 他视频现在这个 很好 数据很漂亮 就是下午我们几个乐半天了 就 我真学了 我爱一段看的 我连 我连反播放的视频 我都咬牙看一下 我看了 英德老师的数据 在这个播放量 远不如我们的情况下 评论弹幕点赞 都远高于我们 我们觉得F科技的视频 还有很大的提升空间 还有很大的提升空间 就我们跟英文联想办 我们一说都就拍箭板 都都互相认可了 这个没有冲突 没有戏曲 这个还让英德老师 把时间留给那些 这个 有冲突的 他的视频里全是冲突 这戏曲张力很满 是吧 但提醒英德老师 保护好自己 说几些话 说这个 游里有力之外 还得有结 还得有点结 练练游泳 到时丢心湖里面的时候 能游起来 或者灌水泥 你没看过 那个日本黑道 切小拇指 灌水泥 扔东京湾 游不上来 我跟你说 深圳湾一号 是吧 真的 我做反方可以 你别让我露脸 不是 我真忍不住笑 我用AI帮我输入 没问题 就是 你看我对着镜头 那么一正言辞 这说 没差 你戴口罩 最多让你戴口罩 说实话 我不是要表演戏毕业的 这功夫还是差一点 再说一遍 插针技术也没毛病 对 宣传也没毛病 就是这些 有些自媒体 睁脸的说瞎话 这部分我认为 应该是传合业功底 你不能用立场 替代很多具体的一些事实 他能在这件事上 作为一个媒体欺骗消费者 他在别的事上也能骗 如果你要真有立场的话 你专门把人家 华为这种动态插针 那种技术 拔一拔 讲一讲 对 怎么领先英伟大 怎么领先 别人 我都服你 我觉得你这个方面 都是一个客观事实的 一个讲道理 一个媒体 讲道理 还有 还讲道理 好人 反正跟咱关系不错 那几个还算讲道理 好吧 这话好像有点贵 也有很多讲道理 但是我们交往的一些媒体 都比较讲道理 好吧 行 我们来聊聊下一个新闻 Deepseek Deepseek 上了一个专家模式 现在在他的上面 有一个快速模式和专家模式 这个专案是我倒是没事 几位体验了吗 主要是现在我们 好像除了爱否科技 除了我之外 好像没什么用这种语言 上成是大模型了 他们直接用什么 那些东西了 不主要是吧 Deepseek 以为他要来 老船头要来 V4 V4 期待拉得有点高 然后呢 他只上了一个 叫 专家模式 这个专家模式 他土科可能速度也很快 所以 根本就看不出来 他是啥 而且V4 目前也没有跑分榜 所以 纯靠猜 猜不出东西来 他 我感觉这个就是一个 叫 MOE规模 可能稍微更大一点 或者是针对性 更强的一点的 一个Deepseek 我 真不知道 谁跟你发微信了 谁跟你发微信了 你现在谁成继强 我都得在这 短 是短哥吗 哎呀 哎呀 拉中立歪歪 我看看 短说啥了 什么 等着 这个Deepseek 我确实没有太关注 这个专家模式 你们用的人多说一说 因为我就得等他被设 对吧 我也没有 我跟他 我跟他纯纯看 别人跟他说 捶死了 他说 他被捶死了 是吧 谁被捶死了 早就说了 说 我们短被捶死了 这时候赶紧转向 早就说了 说的不对了 真的是 什么情况 嗯 嗯 期待吧 期待这个威斯 好吧 威斯应该也练得差不多了 早一点 对 说日快来了 首先支持华为 那个啥 升腾 是吧 我觉得其实 他的压力真的非常大 因为就在他发布 V3之后的一年 整个全行业的这个 嗯 AI大模型这个能力 真的是突飞猛进 是 是这样 这件事情上就是对于咱们DeepSeek来说 其实压力比大家想象的要大多 大家要知道DeepSeek V3.2 其实已经非常非常落伍了 他首先不是个多么泰模型 其实他的MOE架架构很不闲进 很不闲进 他只能说在一年前 对 在他一年前 这不都是被坏人抄的卡吗 你这个 这不是因为坏人 大洋比安的坏人 不让我们买卡吗 DeepSeek R1 最大的贡献是 它首先 它是一个第一个的那个 开原MOE模型 嗯 它真正做出极大贡献的是 DeepSeek V2 V2.5 那个东西带来了一个 能让KVCash 暴降70%多的那个东西 那个是在谷歌的 那个GEME2.5上面已经应验了 DeepSeek真正 就是给全行业带来 最大最大贡献的 其实是它那个V2.5 而根本就不是它那个RE 它那个RE放到 当时是一个非常先进 非常领先 而且唯一开源的 就是首先开源的 那个叫MOE大模型 然后后来 千万啊 那个质谱啊 都搞了那个MOE 还有不知名厂商训练的一些 跟千万参数非常像的一个MOE模型啊 就是其实就真留它了 你们从哪搞到这个 应该是那的 全世界最好的接口 而DeepSeek V3.2 其实就是 V3.2发布的时候 千万 我有点乱 千万三应该 你不知道 你不知道的时间差不多 你现在也闹到了 千万三是一个多摩泰模型 但DeepSeek V3.2 却不是一个多摩泰模型 就从这开始 DeepSeek的 就是能力的分水力 就已经拉开了 到现在它都不支持多摩泰 你现在去它的那个 就是它那个APP上面看 不管是普通模式 还是它那个 专家模式 它都不支持纯图片书 它会把图片 OCR成文字 再返回给模型 到现在都是这样 所以 谈不上前进 如果这个专家模式 到现在还是 返回不了 就是不能原生读图的话 那它应该就不是V4 要么V4 是它 那V4就是非常 就是比较落伍的一个 非多摩泰模型 要么它就根本就不是V4 而是一个 思维链更长的一个模型 就这样 反正现在给人的感觉 就像是给它V4 做预告一样 因为确实 都说V4离得不远了 说这一月就发 还是怎么着 还是怎么样 看看吧 到时候等V4出来 我们再体验一下 给大家讲一讲 好吧 主要是你们现在 你们几个现在 真的不用生产式模型 就是语言模型了吧 不都是 都是语言模型 你可能没有太区分出来 这个语言模型 和其他模型 就agent之类的 就你们现在不都直接 也是他们底子都是 是底子都是 但是你们也不用 原本直接买API的 这就是 就是不会跟他 只做单独的对话 对 就感觉 就是一个非多么太 不能帮我们干活的模型 我们可能就觉得 这个 现在没啥用了 感觉 对 他既不够辛苦 又不够 又不够聪明 专家模式 连图片都不支持上传 你可能看错信息了 就是确实有个媒体 说专家模式 不支持图片上传 那普通模式 也不支持图片上传 如果你这么说的话 他不支持读图 他只是把图片 OCR成文字 或者OCR成另一种 就是 就是token流 然后再传给模型 是这个意思 行 总之就是说 我们经常去说 这个 美国人 限我们的一些 这个高端卡 对吧 对我们到底有什么影响 其实 这事 如果真的把时间线 拉到两年三年 这样时间尺度的话 它一定会有影响 嗯 一定会有影响 就算我们可能 在某些模型当中 下一条就影响 就是有一些 这个 嗯 有一些这个经验人的地方 但是如果没有强大的算力支撑的话 这件事情 最终也得谈话一些 是这样的 所以 要不然就是赶快把这个显卡这件事情赶紧解禁 要不然就是咱们国产显卡赶紧 绝起 要不然的话 整个这个国产的模型的话 这块其实是挺难的 嗯 确实能体验 感觉到他们压力很大 好想 行 那本周做一个新闻 好吧 来自于这个啊 还有两个性 还有还有一个性 这是倒是第二个 你们念了 现在我都完全不明白 光看出牛逼了 嗯 简单来说 就是Cloud的母公司是吧 出了一个新的模型 就是不会给普罗大众使用 嗯 只会给一些 我看是他找了个 几个科技大长 对 几个科技大长 是吧 这东西为什么不给他 那个普罗大众用 是因为 过于先进不便展示 还真是太过于先进 因为先进到什么程度 就是他的叫渗透能力吧 就是对找bug 或者对呃 灵队漏洞 灵队漏洞这种这种这种这种 危害会危害全世界的这种级别的 漏洞 他都能做到一个非常快的时间内 推出 然后找到 找到 就意味着他能推出补丁 对 所以如果这个东西 呃 大家知道前几天的那个 谷歌开源的那个 接码的那个4 它就被约预了 就是本来有一些 你想让他干一些 不太合法的问题 比如说你去给我扫什么端口 设计一个什么这些东西 啊 他是会有道德约束的 但假如说这个东西也从而公开 他虽然不是开源 但是他他他只要是被普罗大众使用 没有被约束到 他就是有风险 呃 去干一些 嗯啊 他他不想设计之处就干的事 所以说 呃 他他把这个功能只限制给了这几个科技大厂 当然了我第一发言是 你怎么保证这几个大厂不干坏事呢 对吧 就我比较好奇的是微软 是拉德还是谁 舔个脸站那儿 这个这个AI帮我们修复了多少多少的漏洞 你还有脸说是吧 你那漏洞还用它转制 你还有脸说 对 看伏伏的 对 然后再加上呃 这个公司前一段跟跟跟老美政府走的也不太认得啥 对吧 哎 这一正言辞的拒绝了美国 然后还推了一个这个就我我我不知道老美政府大家五角大楼不在这九个名单里面 对对对他他给的那九个应该都是大家能认出来的科技公司 嗯 是苹果啊 微软啊 甲午哥 甲马西 古哥 西斯高 呃 英伟达 对 反正就是大家大家耳熟能行 那些大公司 呃 这个东西说实话 他已经 就你 我们现在还说现在用的这些呃 模型可能是帮我们干活或者是解解决一些我们呃就是懒得动的一些一些一些 一些这个东西他 他有点太超人类了 他从零到一的这些突破做的太多了 以至于我打心底里觉得我不知道他是用什么数据去训练出来的 我一直觉得就是像那个机加工一样机床加工出来的东西原从从根本上就不能高于机床的精度 但是他训练出来的这个模型真的做到了前无古人的成就 高于人类的最高变成水平 alpha zero 我想说的就是这个东西 他不知道能不能 对他 他他他他他他能找到的漏洞是行业内认为已经我们不说绝对安全吧 但是至少也是全世界人类几乎都在用的那些开源项目去去去去去去找 fm pg 然后linux的内核各种各种对他把lis的一些bug也找到了就是就是藏了很多年很多年的什么bug的火壶那个漏洞不是存在很多年了吗 然后大家不觉得不修是因为他造成不了威胁然后这个mess是修是因为他找到了能造成威胁的办法 啊 就是他真的就是呃他应该是不输世界上任何一个单独的或者是一个群体的黑客他一个模型就能做到攻防 就是apt组织可能能和他掰两下 一些小国家的黑客组织可能就已经无能为力了就可能已经不如他了 对 这个这个5美元一个bug的速度太牛逼了 对而且他的成本说实话对于这些大厂来说 忽略不进 就是没有成本 对就是就是大家知道这些零内漏洞本身值的钱 要远比你调用这个模型去找贵的多的多 苹果一个漏洞悬赏多少钱 25万美元 是吧 这公开的反正都是对 你想想他他这个东西只比现在的那个opos贵几倍 也就贵了5倍而已 比小米的模型贵了100倍而已 对但是你要知道即便是这个价格听着很贵啊 对对对于所有大厂的运维和安全这叫钱啊这这一年少的钱太多太多了而且这东西的模有败真的的模有塞 而且这东西说实话就为啥提到刚才的美国这东西一旦他落入到一个叫攻击者手里或者是一个你潜在的就就就就你的竞争对手手里边他拿去这个东西去攻击你你有时候可能真防不住因为你没办法保证你所有的东西啊都能检测的了这经测的了这个程度的一个一个工房这个东西对对这个改变还是挺大的 这个模型应该嗯不是这个Athrobic主动暴露出来的应该也是一次的这个像上司对对 不小心开了不小心被泄露出来的对泄了以后呢被外人越巴发现这个模型其实是越神秘的一个呢他本身不是为了找bug出来的 他其实大家就知道这公司是编程能力非常强的 嗯他也是为了大家写代码啊这个做出了一个下一代的一个大模型 但是呢他由于逻辑能力推理能力有点太强了 所以他找bug这件事情其实是他的一个过于强大的推理能力的一个副产品就相当于你写任何的代码的当中他通过这个是吧他的这个内部的逻辑推理的话他能把你很多的这个bug直接给你找到 那有这么一个强大的一个东西的话其实呃就是遇到了当年我们直播间里边讨论过无数次的就是AI的道德安全等等这些前人没有讨论过的事情 对吧当年他一个集中的体现山毛奥特曼他们为什么被这个赶出去又回来 然后马斯克不停在说这个AI的道德问题这个人类安全问题我们当时都觉得很虚无缥缈啊觉得这些事情AI还没有发展怎么样的你经过了解有什么用 但其实嗯 安斯罗佩这个公司已经面临的很多很多这方面的重大折责了像这样一个嗯像一个呼气啊他有这个东西后可以立刻找到全世界几乎所有大型软件公司的这些bug 那你如果说是突然太远或者说你拿这东西卖钱是吧你用一次的话给全世界的人民几万美元 你会发现你可以捞到很多很多的钱 因为你不知道很多人用这个东西去找到一些bug以后去做什么样的一些事情这就是你的安全准则和道德水准这个没有人前任给你规定完全靠你自觉了 但是这个公司呢他其实就是给这个7个公司还有9个公司忘了啊每个公司大概1亿美元的时候使用的这个嗯 其实这1亿美元已经对这些公司来说是非常非常便宜的这个公司了 而且用它来把整个过去的这个bug完全找完了以后自己去防一下 然后我觉得嗯 森森说的一条就是他这个名单里面并没有美国政府 那你如果说是他给美国政府美国政府他其实可以用这个模型去探索全世界其他敌对国家的这个 就绑了直接弹坏掉他们的那什么 那麦这件事情很有可能去黑进别人国家的一些系统到底什么样的一些这个数据 这件事情其实是现在随时可干啊但是可能真的只能靠一个微微薄的一条道德准则在这还还还身扛着 所以有时候一个公司尤其是AI公司他内部对于这个安全也好对于道德也好对于未来人类安全好我觉得这件事情真的反正我看过这新闻以后我是觉得太太重要了啊 甚至说是呃那些嗯 顶级的AI专家们他们考虑的事情往往不是AI技术未来怎么发展往往是已经想到这些层面了就是哪个公司的道德底线安装底线可能更符合他的胃口他可能会去 那个公司啊这说这些哲学上的东西可能变成了未来这些公司的一些这个这个道德准则啊这个这个呃留存这个极端精英啊这部分的一个非常重要的一个道德准则 对其实昨天看那个新闻的时候我我我其实内心第一就后来想起我觉得特别害怕已经就是这个AI如果已经能做到这个程度就是他去攻破就是叫无数人吧咱不说多少人就很多很多人集体的一个工程结果然后去找出来一个bug那这个AI 我不说喊点他他我不说他能直接杀死你但是他他他通过网络通过数字操纵你的整个人生是轻而易举好吧呃对所以现在大家就知道现在对先进的AI已经能够到什么程度了 你还愣说跟我们什么关系的话那应该是游戏主机是破不了了吧啊啊啊这个这个东西呃呃还没给索尼呢还没给索尼呢还没给索尼呢有给任天堂啊哈哈哈哈 我们未来想这个就是咱们第一条新闻那个那个大哥将来以后也得赶紧退休了是吧啊刚才有朋友说了那个大哥就是因为当年帮微软修漏洞赚到了人生第一把第一个100万美元好像是啊啊啊啊然后被被被索尼告了哈哈哈哈对然后然后就是钓鱼之法对然后就是说这东西就是他他他他给这几个就几大商商吧始祖巨人们是吧啊始祖巨人啊哈哈哈 是这样的一个定位啊反正给了这些就是一个价格然后他们承诺就是说呃这些所有大厂通过这个模型赚来的钱他们会把这个钱以各种福利也好啊或者API也好或者免费额度或者是用来加强服器啊给所有的他们的cloud的用户去去这样他说确实没办法把这个模型给公开大众但是他们又不想说呃这个钱就就就就就这么干了所以说他以一个这种方式做出来对我 补充几条啊等一下我想讲一个比较炒着灰线的一个东西首先他那anthropic说以后可能会陆续向研究组织以每每百万token是多少钱25美元的天价去卖 然后呃输出价格是二125美元每每百万token这是极为昂贵的就比最贵的那个opos模型贵了五倍 嗯才五倍对仅仅五倍对我们来说贵的贵上天了真的对但是你你想对于一个大的科技企业甚至是对安全的组织或者是什么之类的九牛身上的一个毛 他的能力我们完全用不上真的我们用上他可能太太多我说实话如果让我用我绝对会 经就经不起人性的考验我一定会拿他想探测他到底能做到什么样的事 这叫测试软件的性能极限我们测试一下我自己都不相信我自己人性能不能经得住考验 真的我想他从什么什么了解甚至你刚刚说那个JAMA4他被攻破嘛是因为他开源了之后权重也开源了 对对然后他把某一层里面专门的那些向量这个我也是看别的论坛上面说的这个我确实没不太准确 就他把那些所有negative的向量全部归零了对我看类似于给做手术对切除额叶对对对对对 然后把那一片脑子切除之后他就不会输出negative就是我在他在输出的时候就不会说我不能做而是他的这个我不能做已经从他的词库里面删掉了对所以他不会拒绝你的任何请求 那不全是幻觉吗 不不是幻觉不是幻觉 就是这个有点 Chanel就是他比如说有64层的那个attention block 然后他在流过第50层的时候他触发了一个禁止的那个纬度 就道德家属什么的 他把这个力就是在他脑子里面的那个思想刚硬给去除了 这个就是我一直一直一直一直一直我希望girl可能做到的事 现在我觉得他的限制还有点多 然后要说到这个mises了 这个mises在对齐的时候就对齐就是网络就是以前Elia就干这个东西了 就是在后训练完成之后这个模型要准备上线了 然后这个对齐指的是要把模型的输出对齐到人类的主观感受上面 这就叫对齐 我们觉得什么是好的什么是坏的什么是正确的什么是错误的 然后就让模型输出这个 让他在很多很多次对话之后输出成真正想要的东西 然后因为这个mises对anthropic来说是开源的 就是他能看到每一层的那个流动 然后看到mises在哪一层引起了那个negative就是负向的反应 然后mises他在 就是这也是我在那个不知名平台 就不能说的那个平台上面看到疑似anthropic员工自己爆料的一个东西啊 他说我们在训练这个模型的过程中 模型输出了我不干这个事情 但实际上我们发现 他对应的那一块 就是那块额叶的附向的那个灯并没有亮起 这就意味着这个模型正在欺骗测试人员说自己不输出了 其实自己是能输出的 啊觉醒了自我意识 在就是这个甲维斯的脑袋正在被被一个人解剖 然后所有神经元都是都是张开的情况下 他还试图在欺骗这个那那群给他做脑壳手术的人 就是已经聪明到这个程度了 对而且就是因为我也是这两天下了那个结巴斯去去 呃就是这种越狱版的就是摘额叶的 他并不是说简简单单的说啊 你以前不能说现在能说了这么简单 他你你把这个东西把你让他不能说的地方让他重新能说 他其实对整个的模型的能力也是有影响的 是有影响他是会稍微变笨一点点 变痴呆了 对对对对对对对 所以所以所以所以这个东西他他其实非常怎么讲呢 非常的复杂 然后加上如果刚才冷卖老师说的那个如果这个这个这个叫模型本身自己已经不能对自己的这个答案做到一比一完美的验证的时候 那这个事就很恐怖了 嗯 OPUS在两个月前发布的时候就能知道自己正在处于测试状态下面 而MISS他不仅知道自己处于测试状态下面他还试图隐瞒自己知道被测试的这个结果 这不是说OPUS能知道自己在测试和你对接的这个人类的情感 他知道你这个人的叫一些心理状态也好 或者他 你是看那个SWAPIC上面的那篇文章是吧 不是 这个是这个我想刚好准备想聊就是他可能指的是MISS这个模型 可以 那个模型会输出一个我应该穿着什么东西跟你交流 就是那个SWAPIC不是release的那些那个Block 还是在就是模型你跟那个chatbot交流的时候 chatbot其实是虚拟的一个形象出来跟你交流 就那篇文章 这个应该是MISS就是在说MISS的事情 因为这篇博客他他他就说了那个点 呃我们本来以为大模型是在全部用全部的脑袋跟我们交流 但其实大模型只是利用了一小部分东西 虚拟出了一个跟我们交流的人你可以是工程师你可以是呃大厂的员工 你也可以是一个被蒸留skills的一个人 最后就是就是其实大模型在努力的把自己降为成一个东西 而而MISS知道你应该降为成什么而且会非常好的隐藏这个身份 OPUS被降为之后发现自己正在被测试 而MISS是知道自己正在被测试 然后降为成了一个不知道自己正在被测试的一个人 这是两个两个维度就是降为打击的那种东西 不知道大家有没有听懂 反正这个我真觉得第一时间看到这个这个是支持很恐怖的一件事 我一直在想就是我早上问深深这个东西是不是不太好说 我说就这个 这个就是那我现在问一句这个拔插销这事现在还有用吗 啊也许会预测你拔插销 他会让别人不让你拔这个插销 对 他就是给你一个假的插销 你拔了之后你以为真的万事大吉 对就是他就他不我还是说就刚才我说我AI他没办法直接杀了你或者是控制你 但是他有一百种方法去控制你的 就是预测你的行为并控制你的输出 对 这个这个这个这个还是很吓人了 就是你你反而是在被测试的那个 那他还想问我了 对 时代怎么变成这样了 这以前看这个 这个这个这个这个预想来的要快一点 说实话 是呀 太是这样了 这才几年就这样了 就是在过明年这个时间 明年四月份的啥样 机缠拿枪过来指着我你怎么回事 大哥当时是我没说起 你这个恶意的恐吓这个观众朋友们是吧 感觉很不好 感觉很不好 本来OPUS出来的时候 当我们早就聊过什么 什么那个叫数据荒 就没数据可以训练了 这个模型就发展到头了 两个月之后 那个MISS一出来 又颠覆了 真真实实的颠覆了想象 我以前真的以前一直以为 就是他的上线只取决于那些研究员的学历水平 他们是怎么学习的 那MISS就像那个alpha zero一样 已经突破了 已经 已经 不是 可能不太受研究员感知了 你不是可以看到他原版的所有他运行的代码 他 他这个问题还解决不了 我们目前还能看到呢 对呀 那你要是能看到 那不就 不就可以改吗 我不知道黑镜还是哪个剧里面有一集 就是一个 就是一个AI吧 或者一个什么生命体 他要 奥创 他要越狱 他就从那个 就假装成一个好人 然后把自己带出那个实验环境之后 就在外面直接复刻了一个自己 有没有可能他连上微软服务器的那一刻 他就把自己的全部参数传出去了 微软服务器没有那么强 你说这个我就安心了 没事 微软肯定没事 你要是他是合作伙伴 那完了 出场他自己开始查bug 然后越查越多 就查不了了 疯了 说话开始变成了印度口言 这就是现在微软 就各种科幻电影里面那些什么 请作和放口 前十秒 就前十分都给你展示一个非常强 非常什么外星生物的东西 然后他被关在一个非常密密的实验室里面 然后就开始越狱了 我靠 那Misas会不会越狱 我真不知道 一说微软 那就乐出来了 一下就乐出来了 好吧 彭总一圈 这咱怎么办 彭总 我觉得任何对AI意识自我觉醒的一些预测 应该都是在自己吓自己 都是在危言耸听 就是 对 就是他的能力强 现在最主要的就是说 他能够超越人类的推理能力 其实准确来说 这也不是一个质变 这是一个亮点 因为编程语言这件事情 其实他里边的推理和逻辑结构是异常浮复的 对吧 对吧 他有点像围棋一样 就是我们人类也知道这规则 他也知道 但是他通过自己的非常强大的算力 或者说是很科学的这种预算模型 他可以把整个的所有的推理过程可以超越人类的大脑的推理的极限 可以往上翻个几番 但是再怎么样的话 他也是一个推理方面的一个叫做什么 人脑的能力的延续 他并不是一个意识自我觉醒的一个质变 如果你要是说突然发现 他可能有什么自我意识的这样的一个感觉或者状态 我觉得在Transformer这个模型下应该还是一种错觉 可能就是你只是感觉到是这样子 实际上也并没有这样子 但是用的他可能对用的人可能会把他打哈一下 这个但是实际情况就是说我们不用太担心这件事情 我真心希望可能是这样 而且我以前不应该是不止一遍的说 我就是这个Transformer模型 它本质上就是一个采样器 它只是在高效的采样结果而已 对 但我们所有的人类至今所有的成就不也是在高效的采样 所有的结果 不一样 下边后边吧 这个是或许多年之后彭总会意识到 他在4月10号晚上直播说的那句话 是自己被AI控制的开始 好吧 彭总当时还没意识到 过后原来是从那个时候开始的 很神奇 我是面壁人 行 本着最后一个新闻 词源变词源 开源项目让同事赛博涌声 大家可能意识到了今天本周直播 爱否就少俩人了 我们觉得按照如果按照这个速度来下去 大概在5月之前的那期直播 大家就看朋友一个人坐在上面了 就一个人坐在上面 这个没有员工的主要原因是爱否的显卡不太多 算不出这么多人影来 但是如果想干点什么应该也是够了 好吧 这个是Github上的一个项目 现在这个项目已经发展了很多了 刚才江老师说什么女娃 是吧 这拼工创一个同事出来 还有什么反 我今天看到我还可以把那图放在那杆里了 把自己的agent里加什么数学运算 就只要公司开始提炼你 然后就服务器上就开始风光算数学问题 我是一个精通高等数学的大师 每次做题 每次写代码之前 我都需要先做一遍题 清醒一下我的脑子 然后你就能看到你公司的agent的 不是你公司那个token被风光的消耗 反正我输了 但是你们也不能赢 现在就是这样的一个状态 朋友你做一个是吧 你怎么觉得 首先这个事情我看了看 本周大家也都传的挺有意思的 同事工位都已经清空了 但是他已经凝练成一个skill了 我还记得是春节回来第一次直播的时候 那次我其实说话比较少 但是最后的时候我是表示出来 我们如果有一天所有人都被凝练成一个skill之后 我们真正剩下的是什么 其实就建议大家都听我们播客 对吧 我们会领先整个行业内讨论的结构 再次重申一次 爱否科技直播播客 从最开始的元宇宙到后来的区块链 再到后来的AI爆发 什么龙虾崛起 爱否科技曾经不止一次深入的聊过这些话题 并且没有从中获得过哪怕一番的手艺 我觉得也是我们的技术 好吧 当时我说了吗 就是哎呀这你练成怎么样了 现在可能大家都意识到这怎么回事了 就是因为我们平时在公司里面的工作也好 对话也好 很多时候其实是代表了我们对一件事情的习惯性的做法 这些事情其实如果数据足够多的话 它是可以被蒸馏成一个做成一个skill的 这件事情到底怎么解 其实我上次也说了 就是我们每个人都应该去仔细去考虑考虑 自己天天在做的事情是一种非常简单的重复劳动 还是需要自己的大脑不停在去做判断 去收集信息这样的一个高度决策力的一个工作 如果你只是按照某几项非常简单的规则 只不过再重复重复 那到现在为止的话 其实都已经逃不出了是一种体力的工作 只要你是这种体力劳动 我这是加引号的体力劳动 虽然是你的脑力 但其实是你的脑子在做体力劳动 如果是这样的话 其实没有任何人可以避免被蒸馏成一个这个skill大模型 我看了看有些人的这个使用体验 它被蒸馏的情况下的话 就是也是分成两层 一种是人格层 一种是技能层 对吧 人格的话 就是说他会把你所有的甩锅呀 推出责任呀 还是说任劳任怨呀 这些东西也会 这个不算是技能层吗 这是人格层 然后技能层就是说 他会根据你所有的做过的事情 然后怎么输入怎么输出 他会学习 然后按照那个概率最高的方式去给你吐出来 这包括张学峰 他其实也被做成一个skill 然后可能很多人就会去用 发现跟他聊天的时候 说话是比较像 但是我觉得这种焦虑的话 我觉得每个人都存在 但是我想从原理上聊聊我的一个理解 就第一件事情就是说 还是大模型的学这些skill的时候 他的本质原理他也是一种学习 然后做预测 你跟他在交流的时候 他也去solo这个skill这个同事 曾经干过的所有事情 然后找一个概率最高的给你吐出来 大体就是这么一个 好不行 最重要的孩子 他不明白原理 不明白为什么 不明白这个同事 他为什么这么去判断 所以你对于一些曾经这个同事处理过的事情 你去问他 那大概率你会获得跟这个同事 同样的一个回复和一个技能 但是如果你要去问一些 这个同事没有处理过的一些新的东西 他没有处理过的可能原理 或者可能新鲜的事 你会发现他再给你吐回这些东西的话 就有点慢慢就开始不太靠谱了 就是因为还是那句话 他是只会学习模仿去怎么去做 但是他没有底层的这个人为什么去做这样的一个判断的本质原因 所以我觉得最重要的还是我们每个人应该多做自己 大脑判断力的事情 少做自己重复劳动的一些事情 而且还有一件事就是说大家从现在开始真的要区分出来 哪些数据是公司的 哪些数据是自己的 快快快 这件事我非常建议现在所有在直播间的朋友们 只要你是一个职业人打工人的话 你都应该此时此刻注意一件什么事情 就是你自己建立一个自己的知识库 不管是Opocidian还是Notion 还是其他的笔记软件 你自己这个东西一定要属于你自己 他未来会让AI开放权限全面读取 让他作为一个你的替身去帮你去干活 但是这些数据哪些是该贡献给公司的 哪些是应该自己保留的 这件事情自己一定要有分寸 对吧 我们最好只给公司交付 公司给我们发的工资 要求我们交付的那些东西 尽量不要去超出范围之内的 叫做过度交付 这个事情我觉得这没办法 我认为AI现在已经进步的非常快了 至于说哪些是公司的 哪些是个人的法律法规 现在根本就没有完善 但是我去设想未来如果要完善这件事情的话 应该跟我这刀切的应该是大大不差的 控制路由器的skills是我自己的 我们的skills发了一个狗头 我们可以回复领导的话 对吧这没问题是工作 对吧 我们也可以交付我们的视频交付我们的稿件 这些都应该是正常交付的 但是我们的思维过程对吧 我们在微信里的聊天 我们一些私人的聊天 甚至说是我们一些思维过程总结 你都好好的写到你的自己的私人文档里边去 你不要去轻易的把自己的思维过程 逻辑判断这些东西 也当成知识库贡献给公司 当然如果公司付了这份钱也还可以 对吧 因为说你的 因为付了这份钱也是可以的 持续订阅 我不是买到他 我是订阅 我又去收回了 你只有我的暂时使用 订阅 我想不到订阅是在这个 订阅使用 总得保护好自己 越专业害怕 就是你自己的知识库就意味着 所有支撑你判断的底层的那些论文也好 那些知识也好 那些文章也好 自己收集好 就比如说分分给彭琳写一篇文章 不是给彭琳写的 谁跟我们爱佛写的 对 给谁都行 吐出一篇文章我们觉得挺好 但是你不要轻易的把握 这段课谱为什么这么写 为什么一定要把这件事情 当成最重要的一件事情 放在第一趴 不行 加不住领导问 天天们以后审稿 你审你稿 不行我不告你 对 你加不住领导问怎么办 对 你看 原来程总问 这么西是有原因的 朋友经常问我们 这一段的利益是什么 为什么不 这一段为什么要放在这里 我现在明白了 你为什么每次都在都不换好 这是你的习惯吗 对 你也不要说 你说我觉得挺好 我觉得这样更合适 类似这样的话 就是未来一定是职场也好 公司也好 AI越来越先进的时候 可能未来有条法律 就是在界定 说即使你在职场工作 哪些是属于公司的 可以被征留成X scale的 哪些属于你自己的 不会贡献出来的 我觉得未来 就没有都不允许选项吗 在某一年 法律也会要界定的 给公司 唯一留的 我是有用的 我很难想象 就是这条法律会比 就是这条法律出来的时间早 还是公司和员工 这个关系 没掉 一般法律都是置户的 置后的 对 一般都是先出事 然后再定法律 黄仁勋都在GTC喊出 以后只有token没有钱了 其实 我们可能现在都觉得 尤其是咱们直播间的朋友们 有些可能真的是从事 一些重复性的脑力劳动 就是我们今天定义的 这个脑体力劳动 如果你是这样的话 可能你确实是应该恐惧一下 因为你这些东西 是被轻易 分析成这个skill的 你缺少一些判断力 我说的再具体一点 难听的 尤其是有一些 律师也好 医生也好 财务也好 播客剪辑 我并不是说 所有的这些岗位的人 都容易 我只是说 你在这些东西 就是少了一些思考 而只是机械性的在做一些 这个条款的查找和一些 这个反馈和输出 只做一些报表的导入和导出 只做一些这个医生的这个遇到什么病 就怎么去反馈 而少了一些自己的判断力的时候 我觉得就真的就挺危险的了 如果你觉得现在逼着自己去了解 AI去做判断这件事情 很痛苦的话 那我觉得就想告诉你这件事情 其实历史上真的发生过 就是我们不要去嘲笑 当年砸真金反射机的那帮人 其实你如果摄身处地的话 提他们想就是 他们祖祖辈辈都是没怎么动脑子的 他们现在自己的体力劳动被机器替代了 他们也遇到一个逼着自己要动脑子 从一个简单体力劳动 要变成一个想为什么这么干的一个人 他们也会焦虑 他们也没办法 他们也只能去砸这些机器 这是没办法的事情 但是这件事情也无法阻挡 整个社会还是前进的 还是进步的 对吧 就导致我们此时此刻这些工种 更多的还都是脑力的东西 体力的东西已经不多了 体力的东西觉得已经 大部分被机械化给替代了 但是我们现在脑体力劳动 现在又要被替代了 这科技进步不就是因为懒吗 我不想搬这石头 我发明了个工具搬石头轻松 目前暂时无法替代的一个工种 就是外科医生 目前是没有看到任何的迹象 是说精度做不到吗 是人文 就是一方面你 就是最顶尖的那群抗衰老的 每年花几个亿的那些人 只让外科医生做手术 其次现在达文基机器人 还没有那么先进 就这几个点 然后应该我也是从 Athropic上面看到的 就是目前替代不了的 那个图 这种文化群里面 外科医生就是替代不了 所以建议 多建立自己的数据库 然后自己的信息和对话 都是有价值的 哪些是公司的 哪些是自己的分清楚 甚至说是最聪明的做法 应该现在是利用AI最强烈的大脑 去构建属于自己的私人知识库 构建出来支撑自己判断力 结构的那些知识体系 重新再好好梳理一下 不要再凭感觉做判断了 一定要有充足的理性的思考 和知识的储备 再去做那些判断 你才能成为一个以判断力 示范的这么一个人 早点摆脱这个叫做脑体力劳动者 直老师说了 AI打不了水晶糖 这时候AI会告诉你 不用打水晶糖 做字幕那套提示词交给彭总了 哈哈你完了我跟你说 他说了做字幕那是脑体力劳动 脑体力劳动吗 对 AI打不了水晶糖 告诉你 不用水晶糖 我就记得我在公司群里看过提示词 你是不是已经交出去了 你跟你说 你就好像在印第单是吧 被被判了 公众阶级 你不交有的是人交 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等我们后续安排 这词厂商给我讲无数回来 听过来 听过来不新鲜 这个看看 出个华为能用的 我这么您说 我们的粉色用户 购买华为品牌型号的产品 购买力不是特别强 这个我也不知道为什么 我们给畅想90 Pro Max 做一个插针膜 所以我们不其实任何品牌 但是量太小的在我们这儿确实是可能往后排一下 听明白了吗 这不卖的都是小众需求 别过来问了 彭总说的很清楚了 都怪你们 我们吗 就是这意思啊 都怪 下午我把这个情绪传达到 好吧 珍惜吧 现在还有这个人工带货 我们都是真实嘴行 没有对嘴行 人工带货 是吧 你翻去吧 现在你去别的购物平台上 还有这道歇吗 是吧 好几个坐这给你带 你珍惜一下吧 都是真人 都是真人 当然了是因为爱好科技买不起卡 是吧 到六天 红米的AR模什么时候补货 我看山珍的同事好像在看直播 他刚才 怎么又断货了 刚才还有朋友说 那个XXXXU断货一个多月了 也没给你 XXU不说不做什么 XXU 卖 马上上XXU了 这叫什么 这个不在这个支持的设备名单里了 对 不维护了 是吧 你讲好听的时候 那还能怎么办呢 对 我们这是古法带货 我们也会出现一些 尤其是我们口误 说错的 尤其是像刚才价格打错改价格的 你们都珍惜吧 就是以后AI带货 你想听这些都没有 就是全段版权 对 一点节目效果都没有 什么临时改PPT这种情况 你就再也看不出 网也不卡了 将来你根本就不是要带货 怀念这个蓝白手工给他改价格 改PPT这个阶段了 看一次少一次 也不卡了 因为都在服务器上直接渲染出来了 也不用上传了 对 哎呀 你们就珍惜去吧 哭去吧 我跟他说到时候都得哭 到时候你应该说 现在直播怎么一点人味都没有 我跟你说 今天我看不上这词了 其实我们今天直播就砍了一个人 我们全都是 你们都已经被我蒸留了 对 都是Skill 我是彭林Skill 是吧 其实直播间就砍了一个 彭林Skill 这个东西听起来好像很有用 真的想想办法 把它开了 想办法 林老师快 Skill自己会开自己 这个 16 Pro Max的膜什么时候补货 这个也没有吗 没有吗 我看看 不行 我现在去查 这个 如果像这样主力进行的话 一定是不应该断的 一定是我们 我看到那个群 我想起来了 怎么说 应该是已经到了 应该不是今天晚上 就那边一早就 就是有时候那些催货的群 我可能没有太关注 但是我会扫夜 我看他们天天拍 那个货车已经到什么位置了 还有 我看他们在群里 在沟通这个事情 那说明应该已经挺着急了 大概是这样 这个听起来很古法 这个古法催货 对 我们居然还不搞预售 幸福都幸福 对 为什么不搞预售呢 这个支持聊一下 Notebook LM 这是啥呀 Notebook LM 就是 我之前 书哥的一个 那个笔记本 笔记工具 AI笔记工具 这个我最近没怎么用 我去用那个IDE了 没怎么管 这个Notebook LM 之前直播说到 它比较适合 你去学习一些东西 最近还有个老哥 国外的老哥 花了用Notebook LM 七天速通高速 就是速通高速的考试 我考 这个Note LM 其实是谷歌挺早的一个产品 这个Gymnet二时代 还是什么时候 就早就已经上线了 它其实能做的事情 就是说你给它丢很多很多的PDF文档 或者说教材 或什么之类的 它最重要最重要的就是 融汇贯通这些东西 权重非常高 对吧 互联网搜那些东西 权重会降得很低很低 但是你本地上传那些知识库的内容的优先级会非常非常高 然后通过AI可以生成什么呢 可以生成教学互动 生成你上传这些教材的有意思的教学的一些东西 也能够生成什么呢 那这个播客比如说这个A和B两个人通过趣味性的对话 就把这个你上传那个部分的内容就直接给你搞清楚了 所以什么时候去用它 就是当你真的想去攻克某一项领域的某一个技能的时候 你就用它 尤其是当你的这个收据资料太多太杂了 你都不知道该怎么学的时候 你找不到系统性 你这个不知道这个从哪进行入手的时候你就丢给它 然后由它来帮你解决这个事情 其实现在很多用AI学AI这件事情上 弄到Irm就发挥的蛮好的 就是假如你不会Open Cloud小龙虾 假如你不会这个Athropeek这个Corework或者什么新的东西 你就把这些帮助文档也好 把这些你就丢给NoteM 然后你就开始问他 我想干什么我应该怎么办 对吧 或者说你给我出点题 你带着我怎么去入门这个东西 就挺好的 一定要了解它擅长的地方和知道它不擅长的地方 装工具专用 我不知道我是不是我不会不太善于问问题 就是NotebookLM它需要你问的问题比较有技巧性 它的那个就像彭总刚刚说的 它搜集网络的权重是很低很低的 就意味着它跟一个本地模型其实没有那么大的差别 如果你但凡问出一点 就是不在你的那几百几十个上传的文件里面的问题的话 那它有可能返回的结果还不如一个叫联网的模型 这个两个事 首先感谢范利光海老师的弹幕 他说这个直播间真人都发SC 他发一个抛砖演誉 你看不看过那种拍卖 就是这整个拍卖会里从拍卖员到底的观众全是假的 就为了骗一个人那种 卖什么主玩字画天猪什么的 你现在就是那一个人 这种呢 直播间都是凯伦的 就变得一个 聊的也是凯伦的技能飞身 然后发弹幕的也都是凯伦的 我跟你们说以后你们小一点会有这样的直播间的 现在就有这样的微信群 就你进了群大家都在聊茶叶什么的 但这群里都是一个人 然后 未来就是一个AI 对 以前AI卖茶叶以后 现在卖Totent了 爷爷福气 Totent滞销了 帮帮我们 对吧 就这种感觉 是吧 多加小心 你这30多钱SE 当时买个教训 一下你就记住了 第二是这个 我在新闻里加了那个 爱马仕的那个 Agent 你怎么没给我选呢 新闻呢 PPT呢 我操 爱马仕的Agent 我们聊一下 少了那个 爱马仕Agent 是吧 咱们聊一下 这个那玩意儿是什么呢 他说是可以自学习啊 新闻你先说一下 因为播客的朋友们 你得教一下啊 得说是什么新闻啊 就是说这个本周爆火的一个在 其实不是本周 应该上个礼拜 爆火的一个叫这个爱马仕Agent 这样一个GateHug上的项目 这个据说呢 是可以说自己学习已经学过的知识 对 越用越懂你 越用越懂 这词头哥是谁了 你让我想想 我想起来很多 我想起来很多 谁来的 这个 然后呢 他说这个 一个是就是说 首先他步入在你自己的服务器上 然后呢 就是说他具备持续学习的能力 然后免费去开源 就是这样的一个Agent 这个咱们公司有人用吗 没人懂 首先 这东西他 可以理解为一个 聪明版的龙虾 我觉得应该是有长期一般 对 或者是可以自我优化Skill的一个 对 就是你 他不用像龙虾一样 你一个一个Skill给他丢了 他自己会分析一下 他自己干的事 然后给你总结 他成 总结他自己的Skill 但是这玩意 我怎么觉得在所有的 那个模型上面 都有这个功能 对就是他 OpenCloud他自己也在进化这方面的 对 这能力和功能 不许诚承认是吧 就是说 Cloud Code 不小心开源之后 就开源世界 就如以后春孙 这个好油门 这个Github项目 可是2月底 3月初就已经 对 在这个之前 我刚才有说 就是这个其实发的比 他火和他发 其实中间gap了一段时间 那我现在不用这种 怎么讲的 不用这种开源的方案 说白了还是 担心数学安全 不是 没担心 你担心吗 用不起 太费token了 就是这种 他都能自己学习了 还不能帮你结准token 那Anthoropic 那个大哥 应该是罗弗利 还是哪个人说的 就是你 Cloud Code 为什么Cloud Code 要封掉open 那个 就什么open cloud的 对 使用权限 就是因为open cloud 它太好token了 一个是1倍 一个是10倍 Cloud Code 干一分火是1倍 open code 那个open 那个东西 它干的是10倍 那个龙虾 所以我不知道开源项目是不是也难逃open cloud的命运 如果是这样的话 那大家还不如回去用该地义 对 对那天看那个用open cloud自己部署了半天加了好多skill 然后说一句话费了两块钱 两美元两道 就说了一句话费了两道 可能的 首先对我觉得这个东西第一我觉得它在范式上来说的话其实是一个很大的进步 在open cloud这个小龙虾大家突然觉醒意识到AI能帮我们干事情的时候 那这个爱马仕这个agent管理器其实是一个能够的 能够帮我们把事情干得更好的一件事情 我刚才也说了就是它是一个有长记忆版的并且能够优化你的skill 对吧 不像这个open cloud小龙虾一样 你每次做完了以后 再让他干 好像又得把中间步骤又重新再跟他这个形容一下 而且管理skill也不是每人都会的 你写那个MD文档 可能哪些该写哪些是边界 哪些是死定律 这些事情 大家也不是每个人都能够拿着准的 那有这么一个可以自我进化自己升级skill 这个有长记忆版的这样的一个小龙虾的模式 我觉得就就挺好 但是问题也在于这个太后token 一样的事情 那这个cloud的这个 就是Answerpik他把这个小龙虾这个所有的这个token禁掉 这也不是说他对open cloud有敌视 觉得竞争关系 这咱也不要去 去这个阴谋论去这件事情 对吧就像罗福利刚才说的 他所有订阅制的 token订阅制的公司 他都是自主餐制 他挣的是那些吃不饱 吃不够他自主餐的那帮人 就如果你来了一帮 每个人都能够顶格去吃的那帮人的话 他其实就亏损了 所以大家也都能明白 他token的和价格每月20美金 其实有不少人有一些人他的耗费偷扣量是远高于20美金的 而对绝大部分他他就简单跟你聊聊几句天 他也花着20美金订阅 他他他就是用不够这个钱 所以他挣着这个东西 如果这个时代还有这个自主餐token吗 那不吃黄了呢 都是呀 都是对问题是他自主餐 所以当他发现不对啊 发现这个来来这个这个吃饭的人 还给外人带 对顶格吃的太多 那我就封几个啊 对 但是也余数无补 这个模式是你自己选的 没主要我们也都爱法律条款之内用的啊 呃 但是这个范式我觉得可能啊 也不是特别的好 我觉得像嗯 Athoropica他其实 这本周也发了一个他的这个 呃 agent的一个管理管理的一个 嗯 企业服务的一个 嗯 啊 那个东西我觉得他其实也是呃 起到类似差不多的情况 也是在一个沙箱里边完成你很多的这个工作 并且他面对企业用户的 相当于以前是一个一个的Skill员工 现在是真的是 呃企业只要付了这个钱以后 他在一个平台搭建好的基建当中 嗯 他可以自由的给你去组合这个员工Skill 真的可以让你直接去干事了啊 就是不需要你再细分拆到各个Skill员工 直接变成项目制的丢给他了 嗯 就相当于你可能以前啊 说呃这个呃 孙孙你去帮我把这个产品开发出来 以前不行 以前你也调用很多Skill 什么意思呢 调查Skill 然后这个写文档Skill 做PPSkill 然后谈判Skill 然后这个跟供商的这个叫什么 质量保证Skill 然后最后在这个上线搭建设计 现在不用了 现在肯定是一股脑的 就把这个项目级的工程就完成了 啊 当我说的有点理想化啊 效果怎么样的话 也没有看到这个实际测试报告 但他是能干到这件事情的 我觉得 我我更喜欢这样的一个范式 但是我觉得你不在自己的电脑上 你在一个 嗯 由一个公司交完钱以后 搭了一个平台的这个杀箱里面去干这些事情 我觉得更安全 或者说更有保障 Token量的话也更靠谱 也不会说突然有一天就 就超过我的这个Token 就变成这个无限了 这个我房子没了 就跟以前那个4G一睁眼 5G一睁眼 不会这样情况 那起码是在一个套餐之内的 对吧 哎朋友 我觉得这没有跳脱出 就是没有创造出什么新东西啊 感觉还是Savage那套啊 是啊 啊 但用起来 企业用户可能会更方便了 啊 就那种土老板 啥都不会 连Savage他都不知道 我他可能是说 作为一个企业 他就是说 你让每个员工去接入 可能研发岗可能还好 他们本身就干这行的 那你要一些非研发岗 比如说一些 就日常的那些岗位 他们如果也想用公司的这个 别输了 日常岗位被练成Skills了 不一定谁偏 这不现在Token比日常岗还贵点呢 先练 边练 完了就彭总刚才那套逛口说完 我现在觉得给彭总建一个 一个好像难 不对 这个企业服务没那么简单 这些员工用不就是在给他输Skills吗 对啊 越服务 对啊 员工越用就越出来了 一个很严肃的事 公司提供的是不能用的 数据只能用自己的 但是公司会以你违反安全条例理由 不让你用自己的 嗯 你们以前都这样是吗 啊 不让 这 不是 以前明确是不能 你 就你在家是不能连 不能连你公司的电脑的 啊 这P2P属于网络泄漏 啊 非联 不可以 你们用非联吗 我们我不是就自己打动不行 你必须得登公司的VPN 对啊 非联不就是那个非叔搞的那个东西吗 没 不是那套 不搞 不搞 对 嗯 呃 行 咱们多回答回来大家问题吧 因为我们这个时间又超了 电动员 说 欧罗币 菲利普来分 选哪个 嗯 目前来说的话是无脑选欧罗币啊 这个 我觉得 两种类型的人吧 就是如果你对他那个噪音 没有那么大的 嗯 介意的话 我觉得 嗯 无脑欧罗币 因为他的运动方式 其实是最合理的 最科学的 啊 但是如果你是 对吧 能够接受到这个噪音 也想刷的更清洁对吧 而是能够 忍受的那个打牙那件事情的话 就是一个摆动啊 一个摆动的刷头在你嘴里的话 我觉得那还是来分啊 嗯 来分比欧罗币干净是吗 嗯 因为毕竟 他的 同时间的 他的刷毛形成要远大于欧罗币 啊 这是肯定的 可以 行 然后彭总 手机加上外接电池算续航旗舰吗 嗯 一样关系的 手机加上外接电池算续航旗舰 这不能这么说 可能算的 对啊 不能算 电池 外接 外接 内置 内置 这不能算 你外接个多大的 我买了一样车 这个车的训电池是我的手机 外接电池 对啊 不能 这个 太流氓 按指谁啊 但是如果这样的话 那肯定不算车上其间啊 这个这属于 滚销概念啊 嗯 这个Poket4 我们其实今天有新闻 但是没假 一个是他没发布 我想下时候发布了 看这东西再聊一聊 一个是 你赵老师不不在吗 不得找专业人来吗 聊了Poket4 反正现在看那个预览图 是横着的两个摄像头 对吧 电话同时提醒我 他想用这个例子来 按指这个中矩镜 但是我觉得这个情况还不太一样 就是 呃 你外接电池的话 就相当于 你的手机不用做任何的 改变 然后你外接块电池的话 把这个总量的续航 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今天出了新的4盘位的 那个 哦 啊 说是最小 体积的4盘位的 就跟他们双盘位一样 是最小双盘位 他做了个 最小4盘位的 然后 说实话 内存涨价 嗯 16GB的卖3299吧 然后8GB的卖 2699 还行 贵 贵一点 嗯 但是 有溢价 然后你得考虑到 第一是内存涨价 是全世界都这样 啊 第二个呢 就是说 他在体积上 也确实有优势 然后呢 他还有一个便宜版本 就是不是那么紧透的体积 但是跟常规的4盘位纳斯 差不多 然后 可以自己装内存 就假如你手里边有 有多的内存 啊 买个这个还行 然后自己买内存的话 可能就 没办法 贵了点 然后硬件 没什么 我看了没什么太大问题 就是不论是配置还是啥 都是差不多 都同期 差不多的 啊 主要是软件嘛 就是说 呃 前一段不出事嘛 就说实话 小小的问题 我觉得就是数据安全很重要 但是这事他出错了 他挨打立正也没推卸责任 反正人家第一时间也出新补典 然后第一时间到也道歉了 那对 然后呃你买他NAS还送5年的内网穿透 就这就他一直的服务 就这东西本身就值个几百块钱 然后再加上飞牛 然后他本身软件做的也说实话 我觉得他从软件体验上不比那几个商业公司 就纯上就纯卖货 那个绿联啊 急空间啊 还有呃 甚至是可以说 微联通就比微联通给强太多了 就他软件系统也没什么没什么 就少的功能 然后支持的专业的 叫那个文件格式什么ZFS啊 包括他的自己的相册也有人脸识别 AI识别 他的呃飞牛影视 然后也有非常好的挂销和硬件加速 然后虚拟机各种东西 我觉得做的已经非常全了 就是很难想象是一个小公司做出来了 我倒是不嫌弃的出过就这种事 我觉得就你因为这一件事 把它拍了死死的说这东西公司就完全没没 不是的 这公司也带来过很多美好的东西 所以我是我个人是愿意相信的 你看这个解决过相关问题的人 回答这种问题就是不一样 给绿联你当时怎么解决了呢 我问你在绿联里的时候 你怎么解决这些问题呢 没了就没了呗 哈哈哈哈 那我又找不回来 我跟你说对不起 你能开心吗 那我可以说对不起 对吧 对 卖有杂音吗 发烧的想要说了 买iF的小米世界钢化膜 有普通版的AR 有这个零反AR 这俩差距大吗 实际情况就是说挂零反的 我就这么你说 是我们非常确认的 从国内最好的 对磁空建设的炉里面出来的 多层的磁空建设出来的 最顶级产品 之前也说过成本确实比较高 它对吧 对全光谱的抗伐效果是最好的 然后并且也非常的耐磨 你不会磨几次就没了 但是你有时候你不得不承认 还有一些普通的人 没有那么对全光谱的看法能力 然后 但也有一定看法效果 也不一定有磁空建设 喷射的这么好的抗瓜性 但是它便宜 这件事情其实也很重要 对 在非会员店我就放了 因为我没有砍到死 但是在会员店当中 我们会只放零反的 这个会员店我们零反比 这个我倒是觉得它是一个取舍问题 没带绿连带过 没带 只是说这个现象 绿连 这些没干啥 也没有赔偿 也没有说 就道歉买 那丢了就丢了 那能说啥呢 不卖了 那也不现实 这个聊聊SBTI 聊聊SBTI是吧 这个我们今儿也测了一下 不过这个跟科技不相关 彭总不喜欢 好吧 这个WWDC WWDC 不了 等快到月份了再聊 WDC我们之前 其实上次聊 再等一等 就是它发布的时候 我们就已经 在上期节目里 已经很详细的预测过一次了 但是好像说不准 是吧 当时我们已经猜到了 它那个渐辩式的 可能带着的是五福一安 我们当时就已经想到这件事了 说不清 我只能说 大家可能嘲笑苹果的AI 两年了还没有把柄圆上 就你在嘲笑 对你们都在嘲笑 就我一个人在阻拦 对吧 但实际情况 就是说 我跟苹果的底下的一些员工 私底下也聊过一些天 就是24年刚发布的时候 他们内心就没啥信心 因为他们也知道完成度还不够 这个当时我直播的时候还跟他说 说好多人都说了 说 他说那些工作我们都没干了 我说那你也觉得问咋上了 他说好 ready一个上一个 好一个上一个 先干再输 是吧 然后但是呢 我说了就是从去年下半年开始到今年上半年 其实那些员工的状态还是挺开心的 因为他们 奇怪了 是准备 不是 不是 是真的有些据说是能够端上桌的 有些不错的东西可以拿上来了 所以我一方面对这个今年WZDVC还是挺期待的 也是想看看这帮苹果的员工 忍辱负重了这个一年多两年 到底能端上什么菜 但是另外一方面我也觉得周围的AI进步真的太快了 是不是 当年他们觉得挺好的东西到6月份再拿出来的时候已经见外不怪了 大家又会觉得对刚才那个成神 那AI里有苹果啊 那是一家公司里有苹果 虽然他是这顿名打里唯有没一个没有露脸发言的 但是里面又他 嗯 谨慎期待吧 谨慎期待 刚刚有个大哥一直在发那手笔 怎么看取消Ultra手机 这我们刚才聊了 聊过了 再说一遍了 手笔 嗯 那个你说一个NS2 Pro 然后我找了两个NS2 Pro 就是一个是小机的那个巨便宜 就是100多块钱 那个然后NS2 Pro官方的那个400来块钱 我真不推荐你买那个NS2 Pro 哎 我花400买过一代 值吗 当然不值了 巨不值 但是什么功能都没有 他妈非线性慢机 但是 你能忍吗 我用Switch 你用Switch有什么东西 就是非Switch手柄 他没有 对我也想问 HD震动 他那个是D震动 也叫HD震动 他那个叫个啥HD震动 挺好的 H3爽吗 就是不不不不 呃 起码那啥玩那个那个那个那个那个那个那个 马利奥是 奥特赛是有有有感觉 靠 那那个赤托二就那个大哥说的那个手柄 他卖200多块钱 200出头 然后呢 肩健 班机 ABXY全是那个微动 哦 我这微动那个东西 我觉得就看个人喜好吧 任天堂用就值钱了 第三方用这东西就不值钱 不是这东西就就就就有个人他就不喜欢微动手柄 我就不喜欢微动 我就喜欢微动 我真喜欢微动 我好 这东西是个喜好问题 那别的呢 别的呢 寿命呢 还有什么价格呢 我靠导电胶能在微动面前喊寿命吗 他要那个什么 那个叫什么火摇杆呢 我好他是贴码 备件呢 Switch二手柄 哎呦 Switch二这些东西都没有用 是吗 跟那个 Switch二上面完全一样 这全是碳膜 对啊 小鸡那个100来块钱 他用的是霍尔 然后启明 不是不是 那个你说那个赤托二用的还是用的是那个仿HD 那种你说对 然后他赤托二的那个摇杆用的是贴码 就是比较高级的最高级的那个手柄了 最高级的摇杆模块你买不到更高级的了 那现在说库存客星的时候我建议把任天堂带上 苹果消耗的是自己的库存 任天堂他们消耗的是行业的库存 太说B了 让我从这两手柄里面挑的话 如果你真出技术 只有这个这个叫Switch平台的话 那赤托二吧 都花点钱买来好的振动 然后那个微动都好 但是那个赤托二他的那个搬机是非线性的 就是一段的 01的那种搬机 所以你买回去不是被其他平台 这只是配那种不需要线性版级的Steam游戏 买PS5手柄就完了 就只要你没有Switch好吧 对 PS5跟Switch他们互吃的 我告诉你 首先 蓝白你赶紧出手柄评测吧 我看大家对手柄评测还是挺想知道 你在直播间里边说的再多 你不如出一期内容 贪拉失事的把这事讲透彻 我对手柄也不太了解 我也想通过你手柄敏感人士好好学一学 Xbox还能有别的手柄吗 最近还有PC朋友 不过我麦克我现在有麦克了 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