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Mix Minus - A Gay / LGBTQ Experience · 2026-06-16 · 74 min
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The boys are back! After taking a well-deserved mental health break (and weathering what we're told were hundreds of concerned emails — each one personally answered by Adam, naturally), Daniel and Adam return with fresh energy and a new member of the extended Mix family. Daniel introduces us to Sebastian, his AI personal assistant who helped prep the show, and we quickly learn that saying "Hermes" out loud leads to instant confusion with luxury handbags. The show kicks off with Adam's mysterious butt muscle injury ("I herniated a butt muscle") and some exciting James Corden news, before things take a more serious turn: Adam's mother, over lunch following her doctor's appointment, asked him to remove the word "gay" from his podcast name. Adam handled it with grace and conviction — gay isn't a bad word to people who know it isn't one — and we couldn't be prouder.From there, the show spins into classic Mix territory. Daniel delivers a forensic breakdown of Apple's WWDC keynote videos, convinced the outdoor walking shots were studio-voiced and AI-lip-synced — an audio Uncanny Valley that had the internet buzzing. A fascinating science piece argues that adults who reread the same novels aren't stuck in the past; they're using fiction as a mirror to measure who they've become, which leads to a discussion of Adam's third rewatch of The West Wing (season 5 is a struggle, we hear you) and Daniel's revelation that his local UPN station once followed Mama's Family with "more sci-fi adventure" as the lead-in to Star Trek: The Next Generation. In the Contact segment, Brian writes in about YouNify, a tool for consolidating watch lists across streaming services, and we get a moment of silence for synthesizer pioneer Michael Iceberg. Then Adam tells us the sweetest story about a baby bird in his crepe myrtle tree — which takes a hard left turn into a possible lawnmower incident he insists was pre-existing. The News Game delivers a respectable showing (even if the World Cup final being in New Jersey remains deeply funny), and the 60-second bonus round tests Daniel's trivia mettle on everything from Pixar to moonwalkers. A delightful digression into a 1982 ABC7 consumer report on home computers — complete with cassette tape programs and the immortal advice that "if you could bake a cake, you can write a program" — reminds us all that the home computer market was supposed to fully evolve by 1985. Spoiler: it took until 2000.Adam shows off his latest UV printer project — a custom metal sign for his stepfather featuring ChatGPT-generated art (sorry, artists) — and the Birthday segment brings us Noah Wyle, Anderson Cooper, and Dana Carvey. Then comes the segment Joe Betance probably won't hear: an exasperated PSA that pairing a Bluetooth phone to the RODECaster Pro 2 takes exactly three button presses. Three! The show wraps with the kind of scheduling certainty we've all come to love — they might be here next Friday, or maybe the week after, July's spotty because Daniel has a long vacation, but they'll definitely be back at some point. We hope you enjoy!Email: [email protected]/SMS: 707-613-3284
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Live on Pride48.com, it's time for the VIX. My name is Daniel Brewer, I do not do this show alone, I do it with my best friend Adam Burns. Adam, how are you this evening? Yeah, I'm good. I'm great. We have sound akin to the little fatty cast there, I couldn't hit the slider there, I feel like the music was a little too hot coming in there. I do apologize for that. And by the way, I'm doing excellent, thank you for asking. Adam, we took last week off. We did. And everything's good, everything's fine, we just, you know, occasionally... We took a mental health break. Yeah, occasionally we take a break and, you know, we did mention it in the Discord. I know there were hundreds and hundreds of emails asking about our well-being this week. I appreciate each and every one of them. Yes. But yeah, we're back this week. I don't know about you, but I personally responded to each one of them. I did, you know, there were so many of them, Adam, that I couldn't, I just didn't have the time. You don't have Hermes set up to do that for you? Oh, I could. Or whatever? By the way, his name's Sebastian, the product that he, you know, he is a Hermes agent, but his name is Sebastian. That's his species, his Hermes. Let me say, let me tell you this, because there's no running update this week. Let me just tell you this, Adam. Let me tell you this. I didn't even, you can see the Trello board right now. I don't have, Sebastian's not on the Trello board at all. But let me tell you. It has been such a joy. Such a joy to have a personal assistant. I feel that it really is going to help tonight's show. Like all of these topics for me were ones that were fleshed out over the week with, with Sebastian. I would just, I just, I say, I have this idea. I'm being corrected. I want to talk about this. And then, uh, you know, he like jots it down and then, you know, later I'm like, all right, what do we got to talk about? Let's, let's flesh this out. And he'll, he'll do research. He'll grab clips. It's great, Adam. It's great. So, uh, well done, Sebastian. I'm being corrected in the chat room. Is it Hermes? Yes. Oh, I thought it was Hermes. If you've never heard it pronounced. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Are you talking? No, no, no. The agent is Hermes. Uh, the, the Hermes bag is, is spelled the same way, but no, it's, I'm pretty sure it's Hermes. Okay. I'm talking about the AI agent platform. Yeah. The AI agent. Called Hermes. Hermes. Uh, and I, I, yeah, I'm sitting here going like, yeah, I guess. Uh, just a side note. I read this the other day and thought of you immediately. And I didn't know if you knew this or not. James Corden is returning to late night this month. Oh, I didn't know that. On Fox, uh, for the world cup. So he, he's doing a late night show. It's for the world cup. So it's the month that the world cup is happening, but it is James Corden doing his late night show here in America. So, um, it is, you might want to check it out. I know that you were a big James. What channel is it? On Fox. On Fox. So it would probably be on Hulu. Yeah. No, Hulu's not Fox. Yeah. Hulu is, Hulu is Disney. Hulu is ABC. Yeah, but they have Fox as well. Oh, I see. Yeah. But, uh, doesn't Fox have a streaming service? No, I don't think so. True social or something. Um, anyway, I just wanted to let you know that Adam, right here at the top of the show, no running update this week. I, my back is still bothering me when I'm trying to run and I'm working on, uh, that with doctors to figure out what's going on there. So at the moment, not doing any running. Uh, so. I pulled a butt muscle today. Oh, wow. And I have no idea how, but, but one, one butt cheek hurts when I stand a certain way or when I sit a certain way. How does, how does one pull a butt cheek? Like, how does that, um, what exactly is the. I don't know. I don't know what I did. I just, I did something. I squatted the wrong way when I went to sit down or. I don't know what I did, but I, I herniated a butt muscle. So step one, you, you, you had no pain. Oh, I just. You raised your hand. Step one, uh, you, you, you, you were in no pain. No pain. Yep. Step four. Pain. Butt. Pulled butt. Pulled butt muscle. Pulled butt muscle. You no idea what steps stage two and three were. Only if I move a certain way. Oh. But like, if I, if I stretch that muscle, if I do any movement that stretches that muscle. Such as? Like I just got up and moved my leg. Yeah. And that hurt. Oh. Well, then don't do that. Yeah. It goes all the way from my butt, all the way down my leg. Oh, it goes down your leg. Yeah. Down. It's a, it's a big, it's the big muscle. It is the largest. It's gotta be the big one. It is in fact the largest muscle in the body. Isn't the hamstring and the gluteus maximus. Isn't that like, doesn't that comprise the largest muscles? Could be. I don't know. We do have a doctor's spouse in the chat room. They could answer that question. Of course I was a doctor's child. Well, I guess I still am, although not really because he's dead, but. You're still his child. I'm still his child. Anyway, let's move on to your story while we find out that's. He's technically not still a doctor, but. Yeah. So, you know, I, I had a lunch with my mom. So the other, the other day, cause I had not been doing very well and I was talking to my mom and, uh, she, she heard it and she said, Hey, maybe we should get together. Yeah. Use me. And, uh, so we're, she's like, Hey, I have to go to the, cause that's when you get, apparently when you get older, all you do is go to the doctor. So she had a doctor's appointment and she was like, can you take me to the doctor's appointment? And then we'll go to lunch afterwards. So we go. Hmm. In Canaan's happy land? No. Lunch in Canaan's happy land. Every day. Okay. I'm camping. You're eating. In the land of Canaan. Um, and so, and so I was like, okay, sure. I'll take you. So I take her to her doctor's appointment. I have to go in with her because she wants me to be there to hear anything he might say in case she can't remember. And it's about. Wait. So she chooses you. Yeah. So she chooses me. Like, maybe you should just record it with your phone. Mom. And, uh, and so I go and it's just a boring conversation cause there, she has back problems, but she also has some neck issue that's hurting her hand. Cause like the, the nerve in her neck somehow affects her hand. I don't know, but she was going, it was just a follow up. They're just like, Oh, you know, how was, you know, everything. Um, cause she has shots in her back for pain. Yeah. Anyway. Jabs doesn't don't know her people like to call them the jabs, the jabs. So she has the jabs. And, uh, so it was pretty boring, but then we go, we go, we go, we go, we go to eat lunch. And over the course of lunch, my mom says to me, Hey, um, you know, a lot of people have looked you up and we know, and you know, I've seen that the name of your show has the word gay in it. And I was wondering if you could take that down. Oh, because I don't, she, she's like, I don't want people to associate your name with that. That's kind of crass. And she said, I just don't like to think of, you know, there's so much more to you than that. I just don't like people thinking of you, you know, that way. And people have been looking you up and all that kind of stuff. And I was like, you know, mom, I'm like, I understand that you still think it's wrong. I understand that you still think it's wrong, but I don't. And it's who I am. And gay is not a bad word to people who think it's okay. I feel like you should have said at that point, you know, I do have one podcast that doesn't have the word gay in its title. It's called Throwing Down. You should, you should join Afterthought Media so you can hear it. And so anyway, she, so gay. So she doesn't want me to have gay in the name of my show. There shall be no, so you, your two podcasts, well, your three podcasts, but the geeky gay. Yeah. The gay mix. The gay mix. And Throwing Down. Throwing Down. I feel like maybe Joe should change the name of the show to Throwing Gay. Yeah. So I don't know. It just, I thought we had come further than we had come, but apparently, you know, she's still at that point. Yeah. And it was just kind of disappointing to have that conversation. So what did you tell her? Well, I just told her, I'm like, you know, when you say that, I said, you realize. To someone who, that makes sense to someone who thinks it's wrong to be gay. And who's being unsupportive, basically. But to someone who thinks it's okay to be gay and that's who you are and that's who you're born to be, et cetera, et cetera. The word gay is not a bad word. It's not a crass word. It's just a description of, you know, who we are. It's also a thing that people search for, right? It's like if you're a Christian and you're looking for a Christian podcast, you're going to search for the word Christian, right? If you're gay and you're looking for a podcast, you're probably going to search for the word gay, right? It's like, it just makes sense. Yeah. And so I just told her, you know, and it's not something easy to change. I don't want to change it. I'm like, it's the internet. Even if I changed it, it would still be out there. Yeah. Like the old episodes would still be on archive.org and there would still be. Does she think? Oh, honey, nobody cares about your old episode. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just saying it would still be there if you searched for me. In the Wayback Machine. There's no way to erase Adam Burns from Geeky Gay. No. No, none. I mean, nothing I do is going to, and I shouldn't have to. Yeah. It's going to be on your tombstone. I told her no. It's going to be on your tombstone. I told her no. If you die before I do, I will make sure it's on your tombstone. Okay. I will pay for the extra just to have it as a Geeky Gay underneath. Adam Burns, parentheses, Geeky Gay. You're not going to put the Geeky Gay? You know, in deference to you being dead, I will, not in deference to you, but out of respect. Out of respect. By the way, Sebastian is confirming that, in fact, the gluteus maximus is the largest by mass and volume. It's the main muscle of the buttocks responsible for hip extension and keeping us upright. However, if you measure by surface area, the latissimus dorsi, which is the broad back muscle, is actually the largest muscle. Well, I think I pulled that one, the gluteus maximus. Well, there you go. You know, it is the largest. I don't know how. I don't know what I was doing, but it definitely. Yeah. And I want to thank the chat room for it. The chat room is giving me a lot of support. Thank you for your support. I appreciate it. Did you watch the Apple's Worldwide Developer Conference this year? We saw the very beginning where Steve Jobs, not Steve Jobs, where Steve, what's his name? Tim. His name is Tim. Tim Cook. Said products or whatever. But that's all I saw. I did not see the event because I don't, well, that's not true. I do use Mac and an iPad, but for some reason I just don't get excited when they come out with new stuff. So no, I didn't see it. Because there's nothing to get excited about. This was the, I'm sure that Larry Vader had a boner over this and that he was, you know, gonna, oh, it was the greatest thing ever. And he does the, oh my God, it's so amazing. It's like, but it was so boring. It was just like, we've made glass even glassier and we've made this thing, this setting easier to get to on your phone. Like no major announcements were made other than the AI pieces, which are now powered by Gemini. So they gave up on their own AI thing. And so, so then it just became a commercial about all the things that AI assistants can do that we've all seen a thousand times before. Right. So look, you can talk into your phone and get an answer to a question. It's like, yeah, yeah, we've, we can all do that. That's not new. That's not a thing. But here's the thing, Adam, you know, during COVID, well, actually prior to COVID, big conferences at Apple were always done in a big room, like in a, you know, some stadium, like, you know, amphitheater kind of thing. It was, it was a big deal. They, it was a big stage production. They did everything live there on stage and had very few video packages or whatever. During COVID, they switched to only doing video packages and which is kind of how they've continued to this day. There's a little bit of on stage stuff, but the on stage stuff is really just to announce a video that we're going to now watch, right? About some new feature or some new thing. As I was watching, I realized that something was really, really weird about their videos. All the videos, all the videos, and this, this would be people, you know, ambassadors of Apple talking about a particular feature, you know, explaining to you this new feature. I'm the senior director of product for whatever, and I'm going to talk about. Right. And it was all filmed around the new Apple campus. They were all like, some of them were outside. Some of them were, you know, in different rooms. Some of them were, you know, they were all, they were showing off the diversity of the Apple campus by making these announcements in different places. And of course, then it would cut to product screens and stuff like that. The thing that I noticed, Adam, is they, their sound like was flawless. Flawless. Like the, it was, it sounded as though it was recorded in a studio. Like the voiceover sound was voiceover quality, but the people were walking in, in the outside. They were walking through different environment. They were walking in such a way that it's like, that should have registered a sound change and it didn't. So it's kind of, it's very. Do you think they ADR'd it or they recorded it in a separate? I don't know. That's what I'm trying to figure out here is, did they record it in a studio, the voiceover, film them walking or whatever. And then with AI go back in and, and make their lips match to the, to the voiceover. Because it was, there was no lag in it, but I'm going to play you a piece because this is the most egregious. I'm going to play you this clip and it, he's walking down a walking path and an Apple employee on a 10 speed bicycle rides past him. Okay. So listen, listen for that. You ready? Yes. These new features across apps will be coming to all our Apple intelligence supported languages. And they'll be available for free with our latest software releases. Some features, including image generation have daily usage limits because they rely on powerful server models. Increased access is available with most iCloud plus. Now that, and then it goes to a clip there. That was him walking down a path. Did you hear the bicycle go past him? Yeah. Yeah. Did you hear the couple walking past him that was talking to each other? No, you didn't Adam. You heard a foley of it because that was, I mean, I heard something. He's not wearing a lapel mic. He's not wearing, he's not mic'd in any kind of way. He is just walking down the path talking and you do not get that kind of sound. But I mean, I did hear something. From that inventor. Oh yeah. They foleyed it. Yeah. They had birds and, and foley, but that's, it was, you can see the grass blowing and stuff is like, where's the, you know what I'm saying? It just, there's no, it was so weird. It was so uncanny. But I'm dying to know. So are you saying that you wanted their audio to be worse? No, I'm dying. No, I'm curious what they did. I'm like, did you record it in a studio and then film it and like let them talk or whatever, but you didn't use that. You actually had AI go in and, and move their, you know, change their mouth to match the words that they had said. Like they could have been reading the same script when they were walking, but then I think they went in and touched it up with AI to make sure that it synced perfectly with the studio version of what they said. And then they added in, you know, extra noises, like extra foley effects or whatever. That's how I think they did it. But I'm, I'm curious to know how that, or, or do they have some, they could have some really well hidden microphone, on body microphone. Do they have some new crazy, like did they, did they, were they all wearing lapel mics and you digitally remove them, uh, you know, from the, from the scene or, you know, how, I'm just curious because it doesn't, I'm not the only one. I mean, a lot of people online have, have been talking about it, but it was, yeah, it's just the, the ambient noise. Like there was at one scene, the guy was talking and he walks into the office, right? So he's, he's outside the cameras tracking him and he's walking through the day. That is a, you just in normal life, you sound different when you're inside with walls echoing than you do outside, but there was absolutely no difference in the sound. Uh, I didn't see that scene. So yeah, I know. So it was just kind of, it was very uncanny Valley except audio. Like it was audio, uncanny Valley. So Gary says it was filmed on iPhones. I doubt that. I seriously doubt that. Um, here's my, uh, I found this article. I really wish Auntie Scott was here tonight because I'm curious what he would say about this, but I read this article, uh, and I flagged it. And it was called about, uh, here's, I'll, I'll read you the headline because it's, it's cognitive researchers studying memory and attention have found that adults who reread the same novels every few years aren't stuck. They're using fiction. They're using fiction the way other people use therapy, returning to a stable mirror to measure who they've quietly become since the last reading. That's the headline. So, you know, it's a scientific paper because it has a headline that's 900 words. Uh, but, uh, the, the piece, uh, basically in a nutshell is saying that, um, when you reread a novel, it's the same novel, the novel hasn't changed. The characters still go through the same, they say the same words, they do the same things that they did the first time you read it. Yeah. But you may pick up on things or have different reactions or feel differently to that, to, to the rereading because you yourself have changed. You've learned things in your life. You've experienced things in your life that may now, you know, more closely relate to, to something that you read before you had experienced that. And so it's much like therapy where you're evaluating where you're at in your life. If people can use it as a gauge of, you know, I used to, I used to love that piece. And now I understand that it's, that it's stupid or that, uh, you know, that, that, oh, they were just being dumb. Right. It's like, wow, I used to love Star Wars, but now I realize it's just a bunch of people who are really bad at their jobs. Uh, you know, you, you have that, you grow, right. Star Wars is still Star Wars, but you. But do you think people are really thinking that when they're rereading something? Or it's like a subconscious thing? Cause I'm, I don't think I'm going to be sitting there rereading something thinking, oh, I've changed since the last time I read this. Last time I read it, I thought this. And now I think this. It's all very, uh, subconscious. But, but the point that they're trying to say is, is that the people who tend to reread novels kind of reflect, uh, they, they're internally using it as kind of a gauge of whether they're still, you know, that, that whole reminiscence feeling or the whole, you know, uh, familiarity of it. And, and this is something that you've enjoyed before and you're enjoying it the next time that you read it. But you may notice different things and you may notice, uh, you know, different, it was just, it was an interesting article, but really the reason that I, that I drug it in is because I know that you don't necessarily reread things a lot, but you do rewatch things a lot. And I know that Auntie Scott and Uncle Drew like to watch the same movie every year or whatever. And so I wanted to kind of pick your brain there. Like when you, this is your house, which time is this that you're rewatching the West Wing? How many times have you rewatched? I think this is my third time. Okay. Watching it. When was the first time was when it was first on? Uh, no, actually I, I watched it. I was late to the party, so it was already off the air when I watched it for the first time. And some podcasts that I listened to recommended it or they were watching it and I was like, oh, I've never seen that. I should watch it. And I watched it. On your second watching of it, were there things that you felt different about than the first time you watched it? See, I don't know. When I rewatch things, I don't really remember having watched it the first time. I mean, I have vague recollection, but I don't have like. Like, are you shocked every time someone dies? No, no. I mean, I, I know the, I know the main plot points, but I don't remember every scene. There may be scenes that I like. Like, I really like the blonde Republican girl that they bring in for a while. Hayley or. Hayley or something like that. Her character was. Ainsley. Ainsley. Ainsley. I loved her character in that. And so I remembered her and I was like, oh, I'll be happy when, you know, she finally enters the picture. And then they only kept her for a couple of seasons. And now we're in the weird Aaron Sorkin is gone phase. But anyway, when I rewatch things, I just, it's either just comfort. Like. Yeah. It, it's a show that makes me feel good. And so I'm just trying to feel good, you know, by watching it or, but I don't, I don't really think I analyze what I thought about it then versus what I think about it now. I don't think I do. Okay. Now I was just curious if you'd notice things that, that, you know, oh, I used to love that scene. Now, now, now, now. It's all right. No. Perhaps I remember it differently. You know, that I, I've said that numerous times, like on a movie that, or a, or a show that I, oh, I loved it when whatever happened. And I, I have a, an imperfect memory of it. Cause then when I rewatch it, I'm like, oh, well, maybe it was funnier in my head. But now after reading this article, I'm thinking maybe, maybe it's just that I'd change. Right. The reason I thought it was so funny before was because I didn't have the, the experience that I had now and understood how it wasn't that funny. Right. Well, I mean, if I think about cartoons and rewatching those now, I know that's different because when you first watch cartoons, you're a child. And then when you go back and rewatch them, you're an adult. But I always, when I go back and try to rewatch cartoons that I watched when I was a kid, they're never as good as I remember them being. They're, you know, I, I enjoy them a lot less than what I think I'm going to. Is the West Wing as good every time? Yeah. Uh, yeah, I think it is. Um, maybe, maybe I'm enjoying the fifth season less than I did in the past. Um, for whatever reason, I'm not really sure, but, but I'm really struggling with the fifth season at the moment. No, I was just, I was curious. It was, it was one of those things that, um, it's like, I know I rewatch a lot of Star Trek. Uh, sometimes I rewatch. Oh, I'm rewatching Voyager right now. Yeah. I've rewatched Star Trek many, many times. Yeah. I've, I've, I've even done the whole do it chronologically as according to the star date between the series, right? So you start with Enterprise and you move all the way up to, uh, you know, next generation. Maddie and I used to watch an episode of Golden Girls and an episode of Star Trek, the next generation every night during dinner. That was like our. I know I've said this before on this show many years ago, but our local UPN station that carried Star Trek, the next generation led into it with mama's family. And I swear to you, the tagline was stay tuned for more sci-fi adventure and UPN star Trek. Next generation is up next as the mama's family theme is playing that's like, and the credits are rolling for mama's families. Like, yeah, I want to watch more science fiction. More science fiction. Uh, anyway, that was it. I just, I was curious, uh, about that. I mean, I can see, I can see it, but I, I don't personally do it. It doesn't mean that you're not doing this. Oops. Three, two, one. Contact. Excellent. It is the contact segment of the show. This is the segment of the show where we read your emails and play your voicemails. Adam, do we have any emails this week? We do, but I need to fix something really quick. Um, what do you need to fix? To fix the video. The video. Oh, you're going to, you're going to display the email while you read it? No, no. The video, the video has messed up. Oh, the video has messed up. So I need to fix that. So, but we do have an email. Um, I can read the email if you need to work on the, uh, yes. Okay. I was going to read the one from Brian. Yeah. That's what I have up. Uh, yes, we got an email this week because the other emails that we got say, do not read Daniel. This is for adding their like trivia things for, so I, I immediately, uh, archived those. I don't, I don't read those. Uh, anyway, we've got an email from Brian this week, uh, who says I use a tool called Unify. Now that's Y O U N I F Y. It's not perfect and lacks many services, but it works for the major ones. It combines your watch lists into one interface. Uh, pretty nice. I'm honestly surprised that no one has figured out yet. I would think Roku, Amazon, Apple, Google, et cetera, would make this happen. It's so obvious. Um, so I, this was in response to what we, I mean, we had been talking about, uh, I was talking about, I want one service where I can pull everything in every show that I watch and then it just show me when new episodes are available basically of all the shows. But the, the ones that I found so far, like Roku has a Roku channel and you can add other channels to that. But the problem is the, I found the new episodes is not, it's hit or miss. It's not good. And so I don't, I don't really use it that much. And if you subscribe to things within like prime, there's some of that there's, but it's all sporadic. You can't subscribe to everything all in one place. My assistant looks for new stuff all like every week and then lets me know what's about to premiere in the next couple of weeks that, of that are things that I like. He also has a list of all the shows that I like, and he also takes those and looks for new shows that I might like. Uh, anyway, that's not important. Uh, that's what Brian was calling about a tool called Unify. Have you, have you, did you look at it? I have not looked at it yet, but I'm going to. I just read it today. So. Yeah. Uh, he, he goes on to say, as a fun aside, be careful with getting subscriptions through other services. For example, I wanted AMC plus and figured I would try doing it through prime after watching two seasons of a show. The third season had most episodes available only for rental. So I figured no problem. Just log into AMC plus directly. Nope. Your account through prime does not give you access to the main site. Yes. Contact Amazon. They said it was on AMC, which said it was under. Yeah. It's, it's a third party thing like that. Like I know that Brian Brushwood on cord killers used to always advocate of doing your subscriptions through Amazon or through Apple. So that that way you can see all of your streaming subscriptions in one place, like on one bill. Um, and you know, to me, it's like, I would rather just go piecemeal on them. Cause we. Well, I, we will, we have forgotten that we were watching something. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's on some streaming service that we're not looking at at the moment. And then we go back and we're like, oh yeah, we're four episodes into that. Yeah. If only Adam, if only you had an assistant that would remember what you watched and, uh, didn't require you to like go through this, the whole hoops of like filling out stuff. Uh, anyway, uh, thank you, Brian. We do appreciate your email. If you'd like to send an email to the show, you can do so. Our email address is contact at mix minus podcast.com. Uh, and let's get right to our phone call. Oh, it looks like we have no phone calls, Adam. No phone calls. No. That phone number is. What is it? Oh, 707-613-3284. Yeah. I do know a celebrity died this week. Michael iceberg died. I was very sad about that. Michael iceberg. Yeah. He was a, an early synthesizer pioneer that used to play at Disneyland and Disney world. Um, and used to play in this, what he called the iceberg machine, which was this huge, later years became this huge pyramid, uh, because of all of his stacks of synthesizers in there. Like this was back in the eighties when, you know, synthesizers required patch panels and crazy things. So he had all this equipment and he was buried behind it. So his pyramid would open on the top and it was all mirrors. So you could see down and see all of his keyboards as he played. And you could see him from, you know, cause you couldn't see him head on. So it was, it was kind of cool. Anyway, his name was Michael iceberg and, uh, he, he died. So put my name in the drawer. Well, we had, uh, we had three messages from Brian and Dan Berry. Unfortunately. Yeah. It looks like some sort of XML and it looks like it might've had a, an audio file in it, but I can't receive audio files over text. So you can't log into Twilio and download the, the attachment. I don't think so. Uh, you know, we apologize. Brian in the berries. The text message is for text. Can we just, you cannot, cannot add extra work to Adam. He's, uh, he quit for less. Like he, he quit. Like Walmart said one day, Hey Adam, can you download this voice attachment on this Twilio account? And he's like, fuck you. I quit. That was, that was his last day. So at Walmart, a little known story. Anyway, uh, if you would like to be included in this segment in, in, in weeks to come, you can always do so. Call us 707-613-3284. Uh, you can also email us contact at mix minus podcast.com. That felt fake-ish, but I still kept going with it. It was like, I, I knew that I sounded like, you know, radio. What do you mean when you're like, and if you would like to call him. If you liked it, call us Ed's 703-613-834. Now back to Sam for sports. It was, it just felt very, but I knew, and yet I kept, I kept going. I kind of like that. I kind of like the cheese factor. It's fine. It wasn't bothering me. No, I was just, I was self-reflecting. Unlike you who doesn't self-reflect when you rewatch television shows, I was self-reflecting, Adam. I do not do that. So this is a really quick, all of mine are really quick tonight, but we, and I don't know if this is the same or not, but to start the story, we had a nest in the crepe myrtle tree right outside our front door. And there were baby birds in this nest. Right? And one day Mark and I were looking and the baby bird had hopped out and he was sitting on the ledge of the windowsill and the mama bird was like teaching him how to fly or whatever. Yeah. Whatever they're doing. It was very, it was like Norman Rockwell. So I was going to say, in the crepe myrtle tree in our front yard was a tiny bird perched up upon a branch. Yeah. In a nest, a newborn whose mother was teaching him how to eat. No. And every day the mother, we would see the mother prancing across the yard with a worm in her mouth. Cause I think she was going to feed the baby. Yeah. Probably singing a little song as she was going along. Got a worm for the day. Gonna feed my baby. And so anyway, we've been seeing all this idyllic, you know, just beautiful. As you get older, you notice things like birds. Were you hearing David Attenborough's voice in your head? Like a sparrow mother crawls across the yard to feed her young child. You know he turned a hundred recently? Yeah. He did. I believe he did. Anyway, so he's still alive though. So the other day. Yeah. Fast forward to the other day. Fast forward to the other day. When I was mowing the lawn. Oh God. So there's one part of the lawn that I back, I don't go forwards, I go backwards. I drag, I drag the lawnmower backwards. Pull the lawnmower instead of pushing. So I am pulling the lawnmower backwards. Yes. And then I look and there's a little baby bird under the wheel of the lawnmower. Now, the bird doesn't look like he's been mown. Mowed. He doesn't look like the blades have hit him or anything like that. But he looks like he was already in a bad shape. Is what I'm saying. Tell yourself that, yeah. He looks like some animal had gotten him or something like, it was not the lawnmower. I did not murder this bird is what I'm saying. But I'm saying, I'm saying, I didn't. It started off so sweet. I know. It started off such a sweet story about the magnolia tree, the crepe myrtle tree in the front yard. Here's the other thing. Here's the other thing. Yeah. I don't know that it's the same bird. Oh. Because the other bird was in the front. Yeah. And this was in the backyard. This was in the way, way back in the backyard. So you're saying all birds look alike to you, huh? Is that what you're saying? It was a very similar look to the bird. Yeah. But I'm just telling you, I think the bird was already dead. Because it was buried in the grass. So it was dead. I think it was. When I ran over it. I was just... But I just think it's a coincidence that I had been seeing this baby bird, and I haven't seen the baby bird since. Yeah. Because you killed the baby bird. Once they leave the nest, though, they're gone, right? They don't stay in the nest. Once they hop out of the nest, they're gone. I see how this is. I see how this works now, Adam. I thoughtfully look things up and put a little bit of research into it and play some audio clips and do anything. And then you just go, oh, yeah, I killed a bird. It was like... I didn't. It's a great show tonight. Hey, if you want to hear about WWDC and a fascinating discussion about re-reading content, then make sure... Oh, also, Dead Birds, tune in tonight, 10 p.m. Anyway, I just... So, no, I don't think I killed it. Okay. You tell yourself that. Wait, what? You don't know. I don't know for sure. You don't know? But all I know is it was dead. I don't even know that for sure, because it's not like I got down... It's not like I got down and did CPR or, you know, something or, like, got a stethoscope. Yeah. And, you know, saw if its heart was being... Just so not where I expected this story to go. I was thinking... The whole time I'm thinking, oh, idyllic nature, and then it's going to be, like, Sydney's going to, like, scoop the bird up and eat it. Or, like, it'll be a cat. There's going to be a cat or a bird, you know, a hawk involved or something. I'm not... No, no, no. No, he's like, yeah, I ran over it with a lawnmower. Look, I just want to say, I'm sad. I'm sad for this bird. I mean, it doesn't look like I got hit by the blade. I could have stepped on it first, because I was pulling the lawnmower, so I could have stepped on the bird. Actually, I could have stepped on it. You're right. I could have actually stepped on it. Oh, Adam. You know, one time I thought I was being nice. I used to have these lizards. And one time I thought, okay, I'm going to be nice, and I'm going to let them go. I'm going to let them back out into the wild. And then I was mowing. You're just dangerous with a fucking mower. And I ran over one of the lizards. Jesus Christ. I feel bad when a grasshopper gets under the mower. It's like, I couldn't imagine a bird. I couldn't imagine. I would have been, I would have had to stop mowing. I would have had to sit down. I would have, a dead bird would have. He was already dead. I'm telling you. It doesn't matter. It would have, it would have, I can't, I know. I feel so bad for the bird. He was already dead. All right. I'm moving on. I'm moving. I want to move. I want to move away from this topic. Okay. I just, not that one. There. Yeah. News game. It's the news game. It's the news game. What questions will he ask? It is the news game. It's the segment of the show where Adam will read me five, count them five questions from the New York Times news quiz and I using only my head brain and mouth words will answer those questions. These are multiple choice questions. I will try to answer without knowing what the answer is, but I'm always free to ask for what the choices are. I think that made sense. It did my head. Anyway, after we're done with that, we'll go to a bonus round where we will do as many questions as I can answer in 60 seconds. And I don't know if it's from a Disney Trivia Pursuit card or whether it's user submitted trivia. Which is it? Which is it? It's user submitted. User submitted trivia. So that'll be a whole new take on the 60 second bonus round. Adam, what is the first question on the old news quiz this evening? The first question is. Yeah. Let me just make sure I've got it correct. Okay. Yeah. There we go. Oh, good. I got it. The 2026 FIFA Men's World Cup is underway with 104 matches being played over five and a half weeks in stadiums across the United States, Canada, and Mexico. Mexico. Where will the final be played on July 19th? My gut says LA, but I feel like maybe it's something dumb like Washington DC. What are my, what are my choices? Washington DC, Los Angeles, Mexico City, Toronto, and New Jersey. All right. So I'm pretty sure it's in the US. You know, I'm going to go with my gut. I'm going to go with LA. I think it's LA. Oops. It's, uh, no, it's, uh, New Jersey. New Jersey. New Jersey. Wow. Yeah. New Jersey. All right. Number two. Number two. Iran shot down a US army helicopter near the Strait of Hormuz. Yes. The two person crew survived. According to the US military, how were they rescued? They were rescued by a Simpson skit back when the Simpsons were watching night boat. And then it was like, and look, the bad guys are, you know, getting away. Oh, it's always a tributary or a Delta. Anyway, it was a drone boat. It was like night boat incarnate. It was a drone boat that was remotely piloted to go pick them up and get them out of there. So we had a drone boat? Yes. We have many drone boats. So we just droned the boat? Over to them. Yeah. A remote pilot. Yeah. That is correct. Yeah. Number three. Number three. Inflation in the US accelerated for a third straight month in May. Energy costs. That doesn't, that doesn't seem possible, but. Energy costs drove much of the increase and they have been spilling into categories like airline fares, which are now up much over the past 12 months. Sorry. Which are, how much are they up over the past 12 months? Airline? Yes. I just saw an infographic on this the other day. I want to say 21%. Is it, is that one of my choices? No. Okay. What are my choices? 0.5%, 2.3%, 5.1%, 11%, or 26.7%. I don't think it was as high as 26.7, but I want to say it's the 11 one then. Is that your final answer? That's my final answer. It's 26.7%. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Cause I, I, in my head I had it like at 21 for some reason. Cause I thought of you too. I was like, I never fly anywhere. I guess Adam does. Number four. Number four. An investigation by Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan revealed that the Trump administration turned what location inside the White House into a de facto war room to manage its handling of the Epstein files? Uh, it was the situation room, Adam. That is correct. Yes. Number five. Number five is the final question. Which candidate secured the second spot in the November general election for California governor? Oh, fuck. I don't know her name. Uh, it, it wasn't Spencer Platt. He was second until they started counting the mail-in boats and then he quickly dropped. So give me the names. Let me see. I want to, I, Chad Bianco. No. Eric Swalwell. No. Katie Porter. No. Steve Hilton. No. Or Tom Steyer. No. What was the first one? Chad Bianco. Yeah. I think it's that. I also know what, whether they're Republican or Democrat as well, but I don't know if that's going to help you. They're Democrat. No, he's Republican. Really? No, then it wasn't. Then no. Right. Who are the Democrats on the list? Eric Swalwell, Katie Porter, and Tom Steyer. And this was for what? For mayor? California governor. Oh, governor. Oh, Jesus Christ. Okay. Um, yeah, I don't. I don't. Now I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, my head is in a different race. So read me the question again. So read me the question again. Which candidate secured the second spot? Which candidate, the second spot. In the November general election for California governor. Governor. Okay. So it's got to be a Republican because Gavin Newsom is going to be running for reelection, I assume. So, uh, um, it's not Eric Swalwell. He was a weaselly Congress guy. He's a Democrat. Oh. He's still a weaselly Congress guy. Who is my, who's my, who's my Republicans? Chad Bianco, Steve Hilton. Yeah. And Tom. No, that's it. It's just two. Chad Bianco or Steve Hilton. Oh, maybe it's not a Republican. You know what, Adam? I don't, I don't, I don't know. I don't know. Well, just throw one out there. Uh, Chad Young, whatever that one was. Chad. Oh, I'm so sorry, Daniel. It's Steve Hilton. Steve Hilton. Yep. Any relation to Paris? I don't know. Oh. Okay. Uh, well that sucked. We'll see you there. That was, uh. You got two out of five. Two out of five. See if I can make up some, uh, points here on the, uh, the bonus round. Uh, let's put 60 seconds up on the big board. The game begins in three, two, one. What was the first Pixar movie? Uh, Toy Story. What is the highest grossing animated film of 2019? 2019 animated film? Of all time. Sorry. Oh, animated film of all time. Oh, fuck. I don't know. No idea. The Lion King in 2019. Originally, Amazon only sold what kind of product? Books. Who painted the Mona Lisa? Uh, Vincent Van Gogh. Leonardo da Vinci. How many people have walked on the moon? Seven? Twelve. That's it. That's it? That was, uh. You know what? I'm, I'm thinking maybe, uh, maybe I was thinking, uh, of Americans. I wasn't taking into account non-Americans that have walked on the moon. I don't know. You know what? But honestly, seven was a guess. Anyway, uh, I think I got two or three in that. I think you got two. I got two added to the two before. That's four out of five. Not bad. Uh, you know, it's nice work if you can get it. Uh, anyway, it's the news game, Adam, with the intra-exit music that is just always a little bit too long. But it ends in a satisfying crash. As you know, I'm quasi addicted to YouTube and the BBC has released a series of technology stories that they've run from a long time ago. Like, like eighties and seventies where they're talking about email on airplane. You know, they have their portable computer and then you have to go find a pay phone to do your acoustic coupler too. And then you have to, you know, do all this login crap to try to, and, and see how easy it is to send this email. It was a, uh, crazy, you know, down memory lane. And I've been enjoying those. And because I've been enjoying those, YouTube of course recommends more. And it, this comes from an American TV station in New York, ABC seven. This is from 1982. And this is a, and let me, let me get it over on YouTube so that I have the, have you been thinking about buying a whole. Hold on. Hold on. So, uh, Adam, I'm going to, I'm going to play a little bit of it and then I'm going to stop and I'm going to ask you what you think is about to happen. And then it's going to be, it's going to be kind of an interactive little game here. All right. So, so here we go. Home computer with Christmas and Hanukkah, just a few months away. Your children, maybe some older children, may have already put them on their most wanted lists. There is plenty to think about before you buy a home computer and consumer counselor, Phyllis Eliasberg is here to give you a look at what you could buy. Well, now this, uh, consumer reporter is about to speak. And, uh, uh, what, what, what do you think this consumer reporter sounds like? I, I don't have any sort of predilection. Would you think, would you think like a geek, you know, like, well, let me talk about computer or are you really in like a very like, well, you know, computers are bored, you know, like a feet or, uh, you know, a down to business or a business person or, you know, what, what are you expecting to hear? I, I picture like a, a woman, a saleswoman. Okay. Saleswoman. A saleswoman. Like a, like a, in a car dealership. Like in a car dealership or something. All right. You're not far off, but let's listen here. You should buy or what you shouldn't buy. Well, you know, Storm, you see those ads all over the place. It seems everybody is interested now in home computers. Well, so far home computers are just a fraction, a small fraction of those being sold in the United States. But because our technology is growing by leaps and bounds, computers can help us with a lot of household items for grownups as well as for the kids. What are you going to use it for mostly? Well, porn. Uh, anyway, this is, uh, it goes on to tell about computers. I want you to now hear, uh, she's now going to explain a typical computer setup and how easy it is to run, to load and run a program. What do you think she's going to say? Like, what are the steps of loading and running? Back then I would assume you would hook it up to your television. Okay. And a program probably came on a cassette tape. Okay. Uh, so you would have to put in the cassette tape. I don't- You are- you're old, aren't you? The program does, of course. Let me see all my addresses that are red. This is a basic computer setup, about as basic as you can get. You take this, the program, on this tape cassette, you put it in the tape recorder. It feeds the information into the computer. The computer does what the program tells it and feeds it out on your television set. If you could bake a cake and go from step to step and follow the instructions, you can write a program and use a computer. But when you- Yeah, you can write a program and use a computer if you can bake a cake. I was exactly right. You were. You were absolutely right. I was exactly- I remember my next door neighbor had one of those where it was a Casio or something. But you- It was basically just a keyboard and you would plug it into your regular TV and then it would read from- I didn't realize there was a separate cassette player, but it would read from cassettes. Yeah. Let's go to a little bit further here. So that even an adult can use it. So what we try to do is develop a self-teaching manual so that as you take it right out of the box, it tells you how to hook it up, how to even hook it up with your own television set as well, and learn to teach yourself as well. And you also have to teach yourself about prices. Computers range from $100,000 to $10,000. But the cheapest models may not turn out to be the most economical. You're probably better off not going that low end and staying in a medium range price range if you really want to be serious about computers. But now may not be the best time to buy any model. If you can wait a few years, you may be able to find a better bargain. The home market should evolve fully by 1985. So the home market for computers, according to this guy in 1982, should fully evolve by 1985. Adam, when did the home market of computers fully evolve? I mean, what's the definition of fully evolved? 50%. 50%. 50% of the country adopted. I would say, I'm probably going to be way wrong, but I would say the late 90s. So there's this saying that we're really, really bad at estimating in the short term, but we're really good at it in the long term. In other words, we're really bad at predicting what's going to happen this coming year, but we're much better at predicting what's going to happen this decade. However, would you be surprised to know it was actually 2000? It wasn't until 2000 that the market started. Well, I was close. I said late 90s. And you think about it, it's like all of the doomers that love to talk about how everyone's going to be displaced tomorrow. It's like humans just don't adapt that fast. It doesn't. They're stubborn bastards. It's like, you know, how long did we still use, you know, antiquated, stupid processes just because it was something that people were used to and did. Now, Adam, I'm going to show you the weirdest fucking, no wait, two things, two things. Here we go. She's back in the studio now. And here's, she's going to start to wrap up. Be a decrease. You'll get more for your money, as the man said. But you have to know when you're buying a bargain. And one way to know what you want and the way to find a discount is... She wants you to find a discount on buying a computer. What advice is she about to give you? How would you find one way to find discounts on computers? What would be, what is she about to tell you? What's the method to use? I don't know, but I would say buy a floor model or buy a refurbished. Ah, let's listen to that. The method is you check the yellow pages, call all the discount stores with toll-free 800 numbers, and do some comparative shopping on the telephone. Yeah, Adam, see how easy it is? You go to the yellow pages, you find all the discount stores with their 800 numbers, and you call each one of them, and you ask them if they have the Commodore 64 on sale and what the prices are. And this was how we did it back then, Adam. That was great. Now, now we come to the biggest mystery. I don't think paid advertisement, like paid insertions into news articles existed back then, but she's about to pivot so hard into what is obviously a commercial that it will leave it here. Here, let me do it. I haven't moved the needle from where we left off. Here she goes. She just told us to use the toll-free numbers in the yellow pages to do some comparative shopping. And speaking of comparative shopping, two weeks ago we compared the prices of developing photographs at different labs, and the price at Willoughby's, including tax, comes out to 47 cents a print. Unlike other labs, they will charge you one price for processing a roll of film, whether or not all of your negatives come out. That's like one of our segues on this show. And speaking, and speaking of comparison shopping. And speaking of, you know, pulling your buttocks muscle. And then we get back, this is my favorite part. For some stupid reason, I really love awkward banter between news people. But here's the toss back to the anchor. You know, it's amazing to me the tremendous impact that the home computers have had on everyone. And yet it seems that people I've talked to say that it takes you longer to do something by putting it into a computer and calling it up again than if you just kept simple records yourself in the house. Sometimes. If you really, I've seen some computer experts really do it, and I'm really jealous and I'm learning how myself. If you're just going to write one check, it will absolutely take you longer to do it on the computer than it will just to do with your little calculator and write the check. On the other hand, if you're going to do all your bookkeeping at one time, you can put a program, you can do your own program once you get proficient at this game, you can put the program into the computer and you could probably do it much more easily. Yeah, you know, you put the program into the computer and then you can do it much more easily. She clearly, clearly a highly trained tech expert there in 1982. Anyway, I thought you might enjoy that, Adam. She's learning how to do it. She is. I wonder if she ever did. That was 1982. She looked to be probably in her 30s. Okay. So there's a chance she's still alive? Could be. Kathy Marshall had email in 1982. She could be a CIO of a company right now. So not much, I just wanted to show you this. I'll put a picture of it in the chat room. Oh, we love that on an audio. Well, we have video as well. Well, I decided that for Father's Day, I was going to do a project because I've been looking for, you know, things to do around the house and projects and things to keep me busy, lift my spirits a little bit. And so I thought, okay, I'm going to use the 3D, the UV printer for something. Yeah. I have these metal signs that I bought that have nothing on them. And so I'm going to create, I'm going to use ChatGPT, sorry artists, but I'm not going to pay an artist to do this. To create collages for sports teams. Yeah. Of like family members that like different sports teams and I'm going to make them metal. But for Father's Day, I'm going to make one for my stepfather. And so I went on, I went on ChatGPT and I'll put it in the, and I created this and then I printed it with my UV printer. Oh. And that is the sign. Wow. And it has the, it has the Husky, the dog, it has the mascot. It has the saying, go dogs, bow down. It has Mount Rainier in there. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. Nice. And the stadium. Yeah, I see that. I printed it with my, I printed it with my UV printer. Yeah. So I'm, I'm learning to do more things with the UV printer, even though it's, it is a pain in the butt. And I have to print something on it every day or. You know, the chat room is talking about older computers that people still are holding on to. Archer famously had an entire closet full of old original Macintoshes and Apple IIs. And like he would collect like one of each or whatever. Like, uh, and I always wondered, I always wonder what happened to that when, when he passed. Uh, anyway, uh, cool. I think we're going to do this, which is, uh, to tell you that, uh, millions upon millions of people have a birthday every single day. We largely don't care about them because they're not famous. We only care about the famous people. So, uh, we're going to, uh, Adam has selected three famous people who have had recent birthdays and he's going to play me some audio from things that they were involved with or that might otherwise identify them. And I'll try to guess whose birthday it is. Adam, uh, who's our first birthday this week? All right. Our first birthday is going to be this one here. Yeah. But what's the name? What's it? What's their name? Oh, oh, oh, this is ER. It is ER. You know, I'd never watched ER. I've never watched ER. And I just recently started watching season one of ER. I'm like, uh, six or seven episodes in. So. Well, there's, there's ER. Um, here's the next one. This is actually the end of the show. Like end of a movie or TV show? It's a TV show, a recent TV show. Along the same lines as ER. Like the pit? Yes. Uh, okay. So this is Noah Wiley. It is Noah Wiley. He is 55 years old. Wow. 55. All right. Here's our next one. Our next one. I'm Morley Schaefer. This is, uh, the beginning of 60 minutes, right? It is the beginning of 60 minutes. That is correct. Morley Schaefer has been dead for years. Here's the, here's the next one. The U S Naval Academy has now removed 381 books from its library at the direction of the Pentagon. Like the dulcet tones. Of, uh, of books being taught in classes. I can't hear. He's so loud. He's so loud in my ears. Uh, I believe that is Anderson Cooper. There's the dulcet tones of Anderson Cooper. Gloria. I was going to say Gloria. He left 60 minutes, didn't he? Yeah. So did Scott Pelley and, uh, another one too. Um, but yeah. Cause fuck the Ellisons. Um, so anyway, Anderson Cooper, who I've said this before, but I know, I knew Anderson Cooper before a lot of you knew Anderson Cooper. Oh, when he was the host in the mole. He was the host. No, when I was in junior high in seventh grade, they had a, a special channel for, for schools called channel one. Yeah. And the schools would buy the, the satellite to hook up, up to the channel and the televisions and they put it in. And every morning you would get your channel one news report. And, and so they, anyway, and Anderson Cooper was one of the first anchors for channel one news. So that's, that's it. Also Lisa, Lisa Ling. Lisa Ling. Lisa Ling. If you know her, she started on channel one news as well. I'm having such a deja vu. It's so nice. A lot of people probably don't know. Lisa and I, like my first job in TV was the thing called channel one, which was a show seen in high schools and middle schools. By Adam Burns. He says, he actually like called you out by name. I should have known that. All right. Well, happy birthday. Anderson Cooper. Lisa and Anderson. Yeah. Started together. Who's our, uh, who's our final birthday? Our final birthday is this person. This genital fashions. First we have Madonna. Let's see what this 57 year old father chose to wear. Oh, that is the church lady, uh, who is performed by Dana Carvey. It is the church lady performed by Dana Carvey. That's correct. Nice. Excellent. So Dana Carvey is 71 years old. Well, from all of us here to all of you there. Happy birthday. Sorry. I, I jumped the gun there. I was so excited to tickle the ivory. So excited to get out of that segment. You were like, oh, I ran. Uh, this is a fast one here, Adam, as we wrap up the show. Uh, I'm sure that Joe Patants has stopped listening by now. So it's safe to talk about this. You both have the same mix. Mixer. Well, not the same mixer, but the same brand and model mixer. Like, you know, we don't share a mixer because you're in Arkansas and I'm in Florida, but, but we have the same model of mixer. Roadcaster to pro. Or Roadcaster pro two. And, uh, we recommended this to pretty much anyone that would listen to us when it first came out because it was so, it solved so many product podcasting headaches that you and I had been teaching other people how to overcome for years, especially during live events, right. Or like live streaming events is like how to mix minus something and stuff like that. And the Roadcaster two made it, you know, absolutely trivial. And so we would tell people, so Joe Patants has purchased a Roadcaster pro two. Yeah. And he always needs help with it, but I, I don't, I do, I don't do a lot with mine. It's kind of, it's kind of what I was going to get at here is he's for the last month, Joe Patants on many of his shows says something similar to, oh, I can call them right. Oh, but I haven't hooked my phone up to my mixer yet. And, uh, then he'll like hold his phone on speakerphone up to, and then he'll get into a thing where like, okay, well, uh, Phil, no, well, Phil can't hear you because it's that he's over Phil. No, what he said was it's like, so he just does this whole game and everything, Adam. Yes. How many button presses does it take on a Roadcaster pro two to pair a Bluetooth phone directly to the mixer? Well, I don't know exactly other than three. It's three button presses, Adam. It's three buttons. All he has to do, he spends more time talking about how it's not set up and it's not working. Then it would took him to just set the fucking thing up. Literally Bluetooth channel, pop it, pair. That's your second button. And then when you do you, when you turn your phone's Bluetooth on and you accept anything, this says, yes, that's all you have to do. Bluetooth pair, wait for the thing to pair and say, yes, there you go. And now it's on your channel. It's on that whatever slider you assigned it to. Oh my God. It is so all, Adam. It kills me. Kills me. It's three buttons, three buttons. Well, the thing is he asks me and I can't be bothered to remember how to do stuff. Like, I haven't done that. I don't use that feature. He wanted me to, he wanted help. Apparently his channels got moved around and I don't, and I, and it's one of those things that I could figure out if I sat there for long enough. Yeah. He can figure it out if he sat there long enough too. It's not like it's hieroglyphics. And I'm like, just call Daniel. Cause he'll, he'll be able to tell. I just, I'm just like, just call Daniel. And he absolutely should, Adam at 707-613-3284. Happy to answer all your technical questions about the Roadcaster Pro 2. Adam, it's a Friday night here. Are we, are we here next Friday? Um, yeah, I think so. Okay. I, I don't know when you're going camping, but. Yeah, I don't either. So it's like, we might, we might, we might be here next Friday. But I'm, we're still in June next Friday, right? Yeah. Yeah. So I'm, I'm here. As we are the. July is going to be spotty cause I have a long vacation. All right. But. Uh, you can email us contact at mixedmindespodcast.com. Uh, you can also text us at that same number that you call us on 707-613-3284. Uh, we'll be back maybe next week, maybe the week after, maybe, maybe we'll be back. It'll be at some point that we'll be back. Like, you know, again, we appreciate everyone that reached out during our absence. This podcast is a proud member of the pride 48 podcasting network. Check out more great shows at pride 48.com.